Re: Workflow Engine - Ofbiz

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hi James,

Long ago OFBiz had a workflow. It was even used as a basis for Shark workflow[1]

Then OFBiz workflow was abandoned and replaced by an EDA Architecture[2][3]

In some cases the EDA Architecture has been considered by some people to be abused [4][5] which is something else.

Nobody never seriously worked back on workflows in OFBiz. Since then some people asked kinda the same question than yours, notably evoking Activiti[6]

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Attic#OFBizAttic-Worflow
[2] look for "OFBiz Workflow" in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Is+OFBiz+for+Me
[3] https://s.apache.org/zdqwf
[4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4501
[5] https://markmail.org/message/fbjai67yvszkhqe3
[6] https://ofbiz.markmail.org/search/Activiti+

HTH

Jacques

Le 20/09/2019 à 14:21, [hidden email] a écrit :

> Team - Has anyone ever used a Workflow engine in Ofbiz that allows for
> you to change the workflow of an Ofbiz process.  For example:
>
> Order is placed->Workeffort created for service->PO created in
> factory->alert/email sent to customer-> order received from
> factory->services invoice generated
>
> We are looking to be able to flexibly customize the workflow depending
> on customer classification.  Any thoughts are experience?
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>

[Nicola Mazzoni]

Hi James,
I don't have much experience with OFBiz to give an exhaustive answer,
but the recent trend is interesting. There are open source workflow
managers (Apache Ode or jBoss RiftSaw for example) which are webservice
orchestrators that use the BPEL standard as a scripting and "descriptor".

For this reason the use in OFBiz (where services are not webservice but
internal services) I think is very complex.

Thanks
Nicola

Il giorno ven 20 set 2019 alle ore 16:39 Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> ha scritto:

> Hi James,
>
> Long ago OFBiz had a workflow. It was even used as a basis for Shark
> workflow[1]
>
> Then OFBiz workflow was abandoned and replaced by an EDA Architecture[2][3]
>
> In some cases the EDA Architecture has been considered by some people to
> be abused [4][5] which is something else.
>
> Nobody never seriously worked back on workflows in OFBiz. Since then some
> people asked kinda the same question than yours, notably evoking Activiti[6]
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Attic#OFBizAttic-Worflow
> [2] look for "OFBiz Workflow" in
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Is+OFBiz+for+Me
> [3] https://s.apache.org/zdqwf
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4501
> [5] https://markmail.org/message/fbjai67yvszkhqe3
> [6] https://ofbiz.markmail.org/search/Activiti+
>
> HTH
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 20/09/2019 à 14:21, [hidden email] a écrit :
> > Team - Has anyone ever used a Workflow engine in Ofbiz that allows for
> > you to change the workflow of an Ofbiz process.  For example:
> >
> > Order is placed->Workeffort created for service->PO created in
> > factory->alert/email sent to customer-> order received from
> > factory->services invoice generated
> >
> > We are looking to be able to flexibly customize the workflow depending
> > on customer classification.  Any thoughts are experience?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > James
> >
>

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[Jacques Le Roux]

James,

There are still the shark and workflow components in http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/branches/release12.04/specialpurpose/ (last branch with them)

And related issues in Jira https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFBIZ%20AND%20text%20~%20%22shark%22

That does not mean it works OOTB of course.

HTH

Jacques

Le 20/09/2019 à 18:49, [hidden email] a écrit :

> Jacques - Are you referring to what is now..Enhydra Shark which is now
> Together XPDL and BPMN Workflow Server?
>
> Do you think this can still be used?
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Workflow Engine - Ofbiz
> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
> Date: Fri, September 20, 2019 7:37 am
> To: [hidden email]
>
> Hi James,
>
> Long ago OFBiz had a workflow. It was even used as a basis for Shark
> workflow[1]
>
> Then OFBiz workflow was abandoned and replaced by an EDA
> Architecture[2][3]
>
> In some cases the EDA Architecture has been considered by some people to
> be abused [4][5] which is something else.
>
> Nobody never seriously worked back on workflows in OFBiz. Since then
> some people asked kinda the same question than yours, notably evoking
> Activiti[6]
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Attic#OFBizAttic-Worflow
> [2] look for "OFBiz Workflow" in
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Is+OFBiz+for+Me
> [3] https://s.apache.org/zdqwf
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4501
> [5] https://markmail.org/message/fbjai67yvszkhqe3
> [6] https://ofbiz.markmail.org/search/Activiti+
>
> HTH
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 20/09/2019 à 14:21, [hidden email] a écrit :
>> Team - Has anyone ever used a Workflow engine in Ofbiz that allows for
>> you to change the workflow of an Ofbiz process. For example:
>>
>> Order is placed->Workeffort created for service->PO created in
>> factory->alert/email sent to customer-> order received from
>> factory->services invoice generated
>>
>> We are looking to be able to flexibly customize the workflow depending
>> on customer classification. Any thoughts are experience?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> James
>>