Renaming OFBiz artefacts
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Hi all,
In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other Apache projects/products. Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by creating a JIRA and work from there? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com |
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Definitely a good idea.
Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace" followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking the next piece. Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. Ron On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Hi all, > > In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian > proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to > "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other > Apache projects/products. > > Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by > creating a JIRA and work from there? > > Best regards, > > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: [hidden email] skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 |
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Ron,
Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response, everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour for a better word). Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I wholeheartedly agree and support. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < [hidden email]> wrote: > Definitely a good idea. > Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? > It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace" > followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of > the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking > the next piece. > > Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. > > Ron > > On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian >> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other >> Apache projects/products. >> >> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by >> creating a JIRA and work from there? >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> Based Manufacturing, Professional >> Services and Retail & Trade >> http://www.orrtiz.com >> >> > > -- > Ron Wheeler > President > Artifact Software Inc > email: [hidden email] > skype: ronaldmwheeler > phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 > > |
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On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Pierre Smits <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi all, > > In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian > proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to > "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other > Apache projects/products. > > Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by > creating a JIRA and work from there? > > Best regards, > > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com |
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Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 4/22/2015 9:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Hi all, > > In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian > proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to > "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other > Apache projects/products. > > Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by > creating a JIRA and work from there? > > Best regards, > > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > |
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Michael ecomify.de Am 22.04.15 um 10:36 schrieb Pierre Smits: > Hi all, > > In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian > proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to > "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other > Apache projects/products. > > Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by > creating a JIRA and work from there? > > Best regards, > > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > |
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Done at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6274
Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email]> wrote: > +1 > > Michael > ecomify.de > > Am 22.04.15 um 10:36 schrieb Pierre Smits: > >> Hi all, >> >> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian >> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other >> Apache projects/products. >> >> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by >> creating a JIRA and work from there? >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> Based Manufacturing, Professional >> Services and Retail & Trade >> http://www.orrtiz.com >> >> > > |
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I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people
divide up the task and do it and test it quickly. divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours. Ron On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Ron, > > Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response, > everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour for > a better word). > > Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I > wholeheartedly agree and support. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> Definitely a good idea. >> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? >> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace" >> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of >> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking >> the next piece. >> >> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. >> >> Ron >> >> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian >>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other >>> Apache projects/products. >>> >>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by >>> creating a JIRA and work from there? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>> Services and Retail & Trade >>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>> >>> >> -- >> Ron Wheeler >> President >> Artifact Software Inc >> email: [hidden email] >> skype: ronaldmwheeler >> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >> >> -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: [hidden email] skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 |
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-1, but not permanently.
If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started. On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: > I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people > divide up the task and do it and test it quickly. > divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing > and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours. > > Ron > On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >> Ron, >> >> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response, >> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project >> (endeavour for >> a better word). >> >> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I >> wholeheartedly agree and support. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> Based Manufacturing, Professional >> Services and Retail & Trade >> http://www.orrtiz.com >> >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < >> [hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Definitely a good idea. >>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? >>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and >>> replace" >>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for >>> all of >>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then >>> picking >>> the next piece. >>> >>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k >>>> Adrian >>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by >>>> other >>>> Apache projects/products. >>>> >>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move >>>> forward by >>>> creating a JIRA and work from there? >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> Pierre Smits >>>> >>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Ron Wheeler >>> President >>> Artifact Software Inc >>> email: [hidden email] >>> skype: ronaldmwheeler >>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>> >>> > > |
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That’s a good point!
(especially for a bunch of build tool alternative branches ;-)) Martin Becker ecomify GmbH > Am 22.04.2015 um 17:13 schrieb Adam Heath <[hidden email]>: > > -1, but not permanently. > > If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started. > > On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: >> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people divide up the task and do it and test it quickly. >> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours. >> >> Ron >> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>> Ron, >>> >>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response, >>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour for >>> a better word). >>> >>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I >>> wholeheartedly agree and support. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>> Services and Retail & Trade >>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < >>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Definitely a good idea. >>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? >>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace" >>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of >>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking >>>> the next piece. >>>> >>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian >>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other >>>>> Apache projects/products. >>>>> >>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by >>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>> >>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ron Wheeler >>>> President >>>> Artifact Software Inc >>>> email: [hidden email] >>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler >>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>>> >>>> >> >> > |
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Can people explain the advantages? "just in-line with other projects?"
that is it? how about all customizations and local implementations? a -1 from me too On 22/04/15 22:13, Adam Heath wrote: > -1, but not permanently. > > If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes > back and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce > the number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be > started. > > On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: >> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several >> people divide up the task and do it and test it quickly. >> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing >> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours. >> >> Ron >> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>> Ron, >>> >>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response, >>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project >>> (endeavour for >>> a better word). >>> >>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I >>> wholeheartedly agree and support. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>> Services and Retail & Trade >>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < >>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Definitely a good idea. >>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? >>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and >>>> replace" >>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for >>>> all of >>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then >>>> picking >>>> the next piece. >>>> >>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k >>>>> Adrian >>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by >>>>> other >>>>> Apache projects/products. >>>>> >>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move >>>>> forward by >>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>> >>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ron Wheeler >>>> President >>>> Artifact Software Inc >>>> email: [hidden email] >>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler >>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>>> >>>> >> >> > |
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I have a feeling that the R15.x branch will not be backward compatible
due to all of the refactoring going on. People will complain that the package rename will break local modifications - but so will a bunch of other things that are going on. Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 4/22/2015 4:13 PM, Adam Heath wrote: > -1, but not permanently. > > If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back > and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the > number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started. > > On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: >> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people >> divide up the task and do it and test it quickly. >> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing >> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours. >> >> Ron >> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>> Ron, >>> >>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response, >>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project >>> (endeavour for >>> a better word). >>> >>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I >>> wholeheartedly agree and support. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>> Services and Retail & Trade >>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < >>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Definitely a good idea. >>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? >>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and >>>> replace" >>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for >>>> all of >>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then >>>> picking >>>> the next piece. >>>> >>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k >>>>> Adrian >>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by >>>>> other >>>>> Apache projects/products. >>>>> >>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move >>>>> forward by >>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>> >>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ron Wheeler >>>> President >>>> Artifact Software Inc >>>> email: [hidden email] >>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler >>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>>> >>>> >> >> > |
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I agree with Adam moreover I don't see a real need to rename packages and what it would add to the project apart more efforts and confusion. So like Adam
-1, even in the long term on my side, I'm not mad about having ALL "clean"! Jacques Le 22/04/2015 17:13, Adam Heath a écrit : > -1, but not permanently. > > If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the number > of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started. > > On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: >> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people divide up the task and do it and test it quickly. >> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours. >> >> Ron >> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>> Ron, >>> >>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response, >>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour for >>> a better word). >>> >>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I >>> wholeheartedly agree and support. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>> Services and Retail & Trade >>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < >>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Definitely a good idea. >>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? >>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace" >>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of >>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking >>>> the next piece. >>>> >>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian >>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other >>>>> Apache projects/products. >>>>> >>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by >>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>> >>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ron Wheeler >>>> President >>>> Artifact Software Inc >>>> email: [hidden email] >>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler >>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>>> >>>> >> >> > > |
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Le 27/04/2015 13:08, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> I agree with Adam moreover I don't see a real need to rename packages and what it would add to the project apart more efforts and confusion. So like > Adam Mmm, I was not clear, of course for the project it would be cool. I was more thinking about the project users, our beloved users.... We should not mistreat them when we can avoid... I see no plus in renaming packages! Jacques > > -1, even in the long term on my side, I'm not mad about having ALL "clean"! > > Jacques > > Le 22/04/2015 17:13, Adam Heath a écrit : >> -1, but not permanently. >> >> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the >> number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started. >> >> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: >>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people divide up the task and do it and test it quickly. >>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours. >>> >>> Ron >>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response, >>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour for >>>> a better word). >>>> >>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I >>>> wholeheartedly agree and support. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Pierre Smits >>>> >>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Definitely a good idea. >>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? >>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace" >>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of >>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking >>>>> the next piece. >>>>> >>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. >>>>> >>>>> Ron >>>>> >>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian >>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other >>>>>> Apache projects/products. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by >>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>> >>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ron Wheeler >>>>> President >>>>> Artifact Software Inc >>>>> email: [hidden email] >>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler >>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> > |
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For sure nobody wants to alienate the users.
But it also about getting in line with the policies of the ASF, e.g. branding. Given that we are considering a lot of impacting changes in the near future (see other threads), the opportunity to rename the artefacts becomes evident when these intended changes are upon us. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote: > Le 27/04/2015 13:08, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > >> I agree with Adam moreover I don't see a real need to rename packages and >> what it would add to the project apart more efforts and confusion. So like >> Adam >> > > Mmm, I was not clear, of course for the project it would be cool. I was > more thinking about the project users, our beloved users.... We should not > mistreat them when we can avoid... I see no plus in renaming packages! > > Jacques > > > >> -1, even in the long term on my side, I'm not mad about having ALL >> "clean"! >> >> Jacques >> >> Le 22/04/2015 17:13, Adam Heath a écrit : >> >>> -1, but not permanently. >>> >>> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back >>> and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the number >>> of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started. >>> >>> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: >>> >>>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people >>>> divide up the task and do it and test it quickly. >>>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing >>>> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours. >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ron, >>>>> >>>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response, >>>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour >>>>> for >>>>> a better word). >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I >>>>> wholeheartedly agree and support. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>> >>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Definitely a good idea. >>>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? >>>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and >>>>>> replace" >>>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all >>>>>> of >>>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then >>>>>> picking >>>>>> the next piece. >>>>>> >>>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron >>>>>> >>>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k >>>>>>> Adrian >>>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >>>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> Apache projects/products. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move >>>>>>> forward by >>>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ron Wheeler >>>>>> President >>>>>> Artifact Software Inc >>>>>> email: [hidden email] >>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler >>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> |
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Yes, I answered to Ron about "searching for modules in Maven Central a bit more sensible." But this means to use Maven to me, else I still don't see
the reason Jacques Le 29/04/2015 15:12, Pierre Smits a écrit : > For sure nobody wants to alienate the users. > > But it also about getting in line with the policies of the ASF, e.g. > branding. Given that we are considering a lot of impacting changes in the > near future (see other threads), the opportunity to rename the artefacts > becomes evident when these intended changes are upon us. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Jacques Le Roux < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> Le 27/04/2015 13:08, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> >>> I agree with Adam moreover I don't see a real need to rename packages and >>> what it would add to the project apart more efforts and confusion. So like >>> Adam >>> >> Mmm, I was not clear, of course for the project it would be cool. I was >> more thinking about the project users, our beloved users.... We should not >> mistreat them when we can avoid... I see no plus in renaming packages! >> >> Jacques >> >> >> >>> -1, even in the long term on my side, I'm not mad about having ALL >>> "clean"! >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> Le 22/04/2015 17:13, Adam Heath a écrit : >>> >>>> -1, but not permanently. >>>> >>>> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back >>>> and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the number >>>> of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started. >>>> >>>> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people >>>>> divide up the task and do it and test it quickly. >>>>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing >>>>> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours. >>>>> >>>>> Ron >>>>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ron, >>>>>> >>>>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response, >>>>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour >>>>>> for >>>>>> a better word). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I >>>>>> wholeheartedly agree and support. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>> >>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < >>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Definitely a good idea. >>>>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time? >>>>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and >>>>>>> replace" >>>>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then >>>>>>> picking >>>>>>> the next piece. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k >>>>>>>> Adrian >>>>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >>>>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>> Apache projects/products. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move >>>>>>>> forward by >>>>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ron Wheeler >>>>>>> President >>>>>>> Artifact Software Inc >>>>>>> email: [hidden email] >>>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler >>>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> |
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On 29/04/2015 11:25 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Yes, I answered to Ron about "searching for modules in Maven Central a > bit more sensible." But this means to use Maven to me, else I still > don't see the reason Really only helpful if we follow up on the idea of distributing the framework (or other modules) to people who want it as a dependency in their own projects unrelated to OFBiz. Now we are starting to think about switching frameworks..... > > Jacques > > Le 29/04/2015 15:12, Pierre Smits a écrit : >> For sure nobody wants to alienate the users. >> >> But it also about getting in line with the policies of the ASF, e.g. >> branding. Given that we are considering a lot of impacting changes in >> the >> near future (see other threads), the opportunity to rename the artefacts >> becomes evident when these intended changes are upon us. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> Based Manufacturing, Professional >> Services and Retail & Trade >> http://www.orrtiz.com >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Jacques Le Roux < >> [hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Le 27/04/2015 13:08, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> >>>> I agree with Adam moreover I don't see a real need to rename >>>> packages and >>>> what it would add to the project apart more efforts and confusion. >>>> So like >>>> Adam >>>> >>> Mmm, I was not clear, of course for the project it would be cool. I was >>> more thinking about the project users, our beloved users.... We >>> should not >>> mistreat them when we can avoid... I see no plus in renaming packages! >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> >>>> -1, even in the long term on my side, I'm not mad about having ALL >>>> "clean"! >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> Le 22/04/2015 17:13, Adam Heath a écrit : >>>> >>>>> -1, but not permanently. >>>>> >>>>> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port >>>>> changes back >>>>> and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce >>>>> the number >>>>> of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started. >>>>> >>>>> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several >>>>>> people >>>>>> divide up the task and do it and test it quickly. >>>>>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, >>>>>> testing >>>>>> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron >>>>>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ron, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your >>>>>>> response, >>>>>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project >>>>>>> (endeavour >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> a better word). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I >>>>>>> wholeheartedly agree and support. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < >>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Definitely a good idea. >>>>>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of >>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and >>>>>>>> replace" >>>>>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking >>>>>>>> for all >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then >>>>>>>> picking >>>>>>>> the next piece. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ron >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> In this posting >>>>>>>>> http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k >>>>>>>>> Adrian >>>>>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to >>>>>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> Apache projects/products. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move >>>>>>>>> forward by >>>>>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Ron Wheeler >>>>>>>> President >>>>>>>> Artifact Software Inc >>>>>>>> email: [hidden email] >>>>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler >>>>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: [hidden email] skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 |
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