Roles: Vendor or Supplier?
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Hey All,
can you help me determine the correct role? A regular supplier/vendor that sells us merchandise that we then sell on to a retail client would be considered a supplier or a vendor and is there any good reason why they are both there? I'm a little confused between these two roles. Thanks in advance. |
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Someone who supplies you with goods or services is a supplier.
A vendor is somone who sells goods or services, who may or may not sell them to you. Typically, vendor roles are used in "shopping mall" type installations. Scott A wrote: > Hey All, > > can you help me determine the correct role? A regular supplier/vendor that > sells us merchandise that we then sell on to a retail client would be > considered a supplier or a vendor and is there any good reason why they are > both there? > > I'm a little confused between these two roles. Thanks in advance. |
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Thanks Adrian, but I'm a little slow on the uptake.
Here what we want to do. We update our site inventory from a database and we showcase it on an ecommerce side as inventory. If someone orders it, we verify availability (most products are one of a kind) with the vendor, order the item, receive the item and then ship it out to a customer. Thats the typical flow. So, do you consider this a supplier (someone who sells goods ) or a vendor? Thanks again for the help.
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That would be a supplier.
Scott A wrote: > Thanks Adrian, but I'm a little slow on the uptake. > > Here what we want to do. We update our site inventory from a database and we > showcase it on an ecommerce side as inventory. If someone orders it, we > verify availability (most products are one of a kind) with the vendor, order > the item, receive the item and then ship it out to a customer. Thats the > typical flow. > > So, do you consider this a supplier (someone who sells goods ) or a vendor? > > Thanks again for the help. > > > > > Adrian Crum wrote: > >>Someone who supplies you with goods or services is a supplier. >> >>A vendor is somone who sells goods or services, who may or may not sell >>them to you. >> >>Typically, vendor roles are used in "shopping mall" type installations. >> >> >>Scott A wrote: >> >> >>>Hey All, >>> >>>can you help me determine the correct role? A regular supplier/vendor >>>that >>>sells us merchandise that we then sell on to a retail client would be >>>considered a supplier or a vendor and is there any good reason why they >>>are >>>both there? >>> >>>I'm a little confused between these two roles. Thanks in advance. >> >> > |
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I was under the impression that a vendor is an accounting role (bills
invoices, etc) and a supplier is a product role (product, inventory, shipping). It's likely in Scott A.'s scenario, that the company is both. As far as how they are defined in the RoleType entity, a SUPPLIER has a parent role of organizational role and VENDOR has no parent role. --- Adrian Crum <[hidden email]> wrote: > That would be a supplier. > > > Scott A wrote: > > > Thanks Adrian, but I'm a little slow on the uptake. > > > > Here what we want to do. We update our site inventory from a > database and we > > showcase it on an ecommerce side as inventory. If someone orders > it, we > > verify availability (most products are one of a kind) with the > vendor, order > > the item, receive the item and then ship it out to a customer. > Thats the > > typical flow. > > > > So, do you consider this a supplier (someone who sells goods ) or a > vendor? > > > > Thanks again for the help. > > > > > > > > > > Adrian Crum wrote: > > > >>Someone who supplies you with goods or services is a supplier. > >> > >>A vendor is somone who sells goods or services, who may or may not > sell > >>them to you. > >> > >>Typically, vendor roles are used in "shopping mall" type > installations. > >> > >> > >>Scott A wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Hey All, > >>> > >>>can you help me determine the correct role? A regular > supplier/vendor > >>>that > >>>sells us merchandise that we then sell on to a retail client would > be > >>>considered a supplier or a vendor and is there any good reason why > they > >>>are > >>>both there? > >>> > >>>I'm a little confused between these two roles. Thanks in advance. > >> > >> > > > |
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Here is what we got while importing our vendors;
Role Bill-From Vendor [BILL_FROM_VENDOR] Role Supplier [SUPPLIER] We are probably going to come up with the same issue for customer. Is it customer or consumer? We deal directly with the consumer but sometimes, other stores. Lastly, is there a need for all of these default roles or are they included to show how powerful ofbiz is? Thanks for all the info. Its much appreciated.
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In reply to this post by cjhowe
I had the same question when I first installed OFBiz. The answer I got back from
the mailing list was as I described. Somone said at that time that a vendor is used in a shopping mall scenario - where an OFBiz installation is "sub-let" to vendors, who sell goods to customers. Maybe the vendor role has changed its meaning since then. Chris Howe wrote: > I was under the impression that a vendor is an accounting role (bills > invoices, etc) and a supplier is a product role (product, inventory, > shipping). It's likely in Scott A.'s scenario, that the company is > both. > > As far as how they are defined in the RoleType entity, a SUPPLIER has a > parent role of organizational role and VENDOR has no parent role. > > --- Adrian Crum <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >>That would be a supplier. >> >> >>Scott A wrote: >> >> >>>Thanks Adrian, but I'm a little slow on the uptake. >>> >>>Here what we want to do. We update our site inventory from a >> >>database and we >> >>>showcase it on an ecommerce side as inventory. If someone orders >> >>it, we >> >>>verify availability (most products are one of a kind) with the >> >>vendor, order >> >>>the item, receive the item and then ship it out to a customer. >> >>Thats the >> >>>typical flow. >>> >>>So, do you consider this a supplier (someone who sells goods ) or a >> >>vendor? >> >>>Thanks again for the help. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Adrian Crum wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Someone who supplies you with goods or services is a supplier. >>>> >>>>A vendor is somone who sells goods or services, who may or may not >> >>sell >> >>>>them to you. >>>> >>>>Typically, vendor roles are used in "shopping mall" type >> >>installations. >> >>>> >>>>Scott A wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hey All, >>>>> >>>>>can you help me determine the correct role? A regular >> >>supplier/vendor >> >>>>>that >>>>>sells us merchandise that we then sell on to a retail client would >> >>be >> >>>>>considered a supplier or a vendor and is there any good reason why >> >>they >> >>>>>are >>>>>both there? >>>>> >>>>>I'm a little confused between these two roles. Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> > > |
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In reply to this post by Scott.
Scott A wrote:
> We are probably going to come up with the same issue for customer. Is it > customer or consumer? We deal directly with the consumer but sometimes, > other stores. It could be both. It depends on how you want to organize your data. Example: we build and sell homes through a dealer network. So, our dealer is the customer, and the homeowner is the consumer. The demo data is there to demonstrate how to use OFBiz. It's pretty generic. The actual data you use depends entirely upon your needs. |
Re: Roles: Vendor or Supplier?
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I had, and still have this problem, with other roles. (customer/client,
lead/prospect, etc) Maybe because something is lost in translation. I even found difficult to translate some terms, because they are ambiguous if translated literally. It would be a great help if someone could write documentation with a description of each role, when it is used and in which applications it is used. Now I have to search in code, if the role is relevant in some application. When I first started using OFBiz I created parties and later had to come back and assign a role that I missed when first created them. Something similar happened to me with contact purposes. I first assumed that "main address" was used always, when "billing address" or "shipping destination address" is not specified. Later I had to assign "billing address" and "Shipping destination" for every party address. I mean that it was not clear to me where this roles are relevant and which applications uses them (the same for Telephones). I could not find this kind of documentation, and would be very useful for newbies. Guido 2007/4/13, Adrian Crum <[hidden email]>: > > Scott A wrote: > > We are probably going to come up with the same issue for customer. Is it > > customer or consumer? We deal directly with the consumer but sometimes, > > other stores. > > It could be both. It depends on how you want to organize your data. > > Example: we build and sell homes through a dealer network. So, our dealer > is the > customer, and the homeowner is the consumer. > > The demo data is there to demonstrate how to use OFBiz. It's pretty > generic. The > actual data you use depends entirely upon your needs. > > -- Guido Amarilla |
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In reply to this post by Scott.
not sure if this helps, but if you go into catalog
and do a jump you will see supplier. Scott A sent the following on 4/13/2007 11:30 AM: > Hey All, > > can you help me determine the correct role? A regular supplier/vendor that > sells us merchandise that we then sell on to a retail client would be > considered a supplier or a vendor and is there any good reason why they are > both there? > > I'm a little confused between these two roles. Thanks in advance. |
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In reply to this post by Guido Amarilla
Guido,
Well, thanks for YOUR info below. :) Saves me the digging. I figure out stuff like that by diving into the source codes. But unless someone asks a specific question, like "if billing address and shipping address not specified, will main address be used?", I can't dive into the source codes to find answers for every question in the universe. So, yes, some documentation would help my clients see that OFBiz isn't as half-baked as it looks. Jonathon Guido Amarilla wrote: > I had, and still have this problem, with other roles. (customer/client, > lead/prospect, etc) Maybe because something is lost in translation. I even > found difficult to translate some terms, because they are ambiguous if > translated literally. > It would be a great help if someone could write documentation with a > description of each role, when it is used and in which applications it is > used. Now I have to search in code, if the role is relevant in some > application. When I first started using OFBiz I created parties and later > had to come back and assign a role that I missed when first created them. > > Something similar happened to me with contact purposes. I first assumed > that "main address" was used always, when "billing address" or "shipping > destination address" is not specified. Later I had to assign "billing > address" and "Shipping destination" for every party address. > I mean that it was not clear to me where this roles are relevant and which > applications uses them (the same for Telephones). > > I could not find this kind of documentation, and would be very useful for > newbies. > > Guido > > > > 2007/4/13, Adrian Crum <[hidden email]>: >> >> Scott A wrote: >> > We are probably going to come up with the same issue for customer. >> Is it >> > customer or consumer? We deal directly with the consumer but sometimes, >> > other stores. >> >> It could be both. It depends on how you want to organize your data. >> >> Example: we build and sell homes through a dealer network. So, our dealer >> is the >> customer, and the homeowner is the consumer. >> >> The demo data is there to demonstrate how to use OFBiz. It's pretty >> generic. The >> actual data you use depends entirely upon your needs. >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/760 - Release Date: 4/13/2007 8:04 PM |
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In reply to this post by Guido Amarilla
A simple glossary would be great.
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