Shipping options and related questions

[Ritesh Trivedi]

Hi,

I am trying to understand how the shipping options work in Ofbiz - trying to integrate it on the ecommerce site.

Will appreciate if someone can point me to some explanation on

1. What are Ship Groups and how are they created in ecommerce app (was looking at checkoutshippingoptions.bsh and it always passes 0 to the ShippingEstimateWrapper for ship group !!)

2. Seems like currently the way shipping options work is one has to login and specify the shipping address - however most of the time, only a zip code is required to just get an initial shipping estimate before customer logs in -is there a way to do that out of the box?

3. How are drop ship items handled? ship from should be calculated based on the supplier for each product and their contact mech

4. Any other pointers understanding how shipping calculator/ shipping option/ shipping estimate works in general (I do not need carrier specific info).

Thanks in advance

[BJ Freeman]

thats a lot of info
to my knowledge it is already integrated
in orders and products.


Ritz123 sent the following on 5/5/2008 8:07 PM:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to understand how the shipping options work in Ofbiz - trying to
> integrate it on the ecommerce site.
>
> Will appreciate if someone can point me to some explanation on
>
> 1. What are Ship Groups and how are they created in ecommerce app (was
> looking at checkoutshippingoptions.bsh and it always passes 0 to the
> ShippingEstimateWrapper for ship group !!)
>
> 2. Seems like currently the way shipping options work is one has to login
> and specify the shipping address - however most of the time, only a zip code
> is required to just get an initial shipping estimate before customer logs in
> -is there a way to do that out of the box?
>
> 3. How are drop ship items handled? ship from should be calculated based on
> the supplier for each product and their contact mech
>
> 4. Any other pointers understanding how shipping calculator/ shipping
> option/ shipping estimate works in general (I do not need carrier specific
> info).
>
> Thanks in advance

[Jacopo Cappellato-3]

On May 6, 2008, at 5:07 AM, Ritz123 wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to understand how the shipping options work in Ofbiz -  
> trying to
> integrate it on the ecommerce site.
>
> Will appreciate if someone can point me to some explanation on
>
> 1. What are Ship Groups and how are they created in ecommerce app (was
> looking at checkoutshippingoptions.bsh and it always passes 0 to the
> ShippingEstimateWrapper for ship group !!)
>

Ship groups are groups of order items that share the same shipping  
options. In the default ecommerce site the customer doesn't have the  
ability to specify different ship groups, that is why you see that  
code in the ecommerce application. On the other hand, in the order  
manager application, you can define more than one ship groups (during  
the checkout process).

> 2. Seems like currently the way shipping options work is one has to  
> login
> and specify the shipping address - however most of the time, only a  
> zip code
> is required to just get an initial shipping estimate before customer  
> logs in
> -is there a way to do that out of the box?

I don't think we have support for this out of the box.

>
>
> 3. How are drop ship items handled? ship from should be calculated  
> based on
> the supplier for each product and their contact mech
>

You can define the suppliers that offer drop shipment services for  
their product in the SupplierProduct entity (there is a flag for  
this): Catalog-->Edit Product-->Suppliers


> 4. Any other pointers understanding how shipping calculator/ shipping
> option/ shipping estimate works in general (I do not need carrier  
> specific
> info).
>

You can  setup shipping estimate rules in the Catalog-->Store--
 >Shipping and Shipping Estimates tabs; there are many options.

Jacopo

> Thanks in advance
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>

[Bilgin Ibryam]

On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 14:18 +0200, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> Ship groups are groups of order items that share the same shipping  
> options. In the default ecommerce site the customer doesn't have the  
> ability to specify different ship groups, that is why you see that  
> code in the ecommerce application. On the other hand, in the order  
> manager application, you can define more than one ship groups
> (during  
> the checkout process).

Jacopo,

you explained very well. Just a note: In ecommerce it is possible to use
"Split Shipment" option to specify different ship groups.

Bilgin

[Jacopo Cappellato-3]

On May 6, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 14:18 +0200, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> Ship groups are groups of order items that share the same shipping
>> options. In the default ecommerce site the customer doesn't have the
>> ability to specify different ship groups, that is why you see that
>> code in the ecommerce application. On the other hand, in the order
>> manager application, you can define more than one ship groups
>> (during
>> the checkout process).
>
> Jacopo,
>
> you explained very well. Just a note: In ecommerce it is possible to  
> use
> "Split Shipment" option to specify different ship groups.
>
> Bilgin
>

Thank you Bilgin, this is correct but if I am not wrong with that  
option the user can just say that he will accept more than one  
shipment; I don't think the user has the ability to define different  
options (e.g. shipment methods) for different ship groups (as it is  
possible in the order manager order entry).

Jacopo

[Bilgin Ibryam]

On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 15:23 +0200, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> Thank you Bilgin, this is correct but if I am not wrong with that  
> option the user can just say that he will accept more than one  
> shipment; I don't think the user has the ability to define different  
> options (e.g. shipment methods) for different ship groups (as it is  
> possible in the order manager order entry).
>
> Jacopo

I just tried it on trunk demo server and it is possible.
https://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ordermgr/control/orderview?orderId=WSCO10003

[Jacopo Cappellato-3]

On May 6, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 15:23 +0200, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> Thank you Bilgin, this is correct but if I am not wrong with that
>> option the user can just say that he will accept more than one
>> shipment; I don't think the user has the ability to define different
>> options (e.g. shipment methods) for different ship groups (as it is
>> possible in the order manager order entry).
>>
>> Jacopo
>
> I just tried it on trunk demo server and it is possible.
> https://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ordermgr/control/orderview?orderId=WSCO10003
>

Oh great, thank you Bilgin, I've learned something new today.

Jacopo

[Ritesh Trivedi]

Thanks Jacopo and Bilgin.

If I am following the code correctly, for ShoppingCart containing multiple DropShip products from each different a different supplier, I believe a different ShipGroup is created. But in order to display the total for each ProductStoreShipmentMeth somewhere in the code it needs to be totalled per PSShipmentMethtype. Can someone pointme to the part of the code where this aggregation of shipping cost per PSShipmentMethtype across all the groups is done?

Jacopo Cappellato-3 wrote

On May 6, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 15:23 +0200, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> Thank you Bilgin, this is correct but if I am not wrong with that
>> option the user can just say that he will accept more than one
>> shipment; I don't think the user has the ability to define different
>> options (e.g. shipment methods) for different ship groups (as it is
>> possible in the order manager order entry).
>>
>> Jacopo
>
> I just tried it on trunk demo server and it is possible.
> https://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ordermgr/control/orderview?orderId=WSCO10003
>

Oh great, thank you Bilgin, I've learned something new today.

Jacopo