Simple backend UI enhancement proposition

[flj]

Hello.

A potential customer wants to replace everything  he has (re. software for  
managing his business). Among other things, he needs a fleet management  
system. His cars all have a third-party fleet management system over GPRS  
in working condition. However, this is just to see where the cars travel,  
when they stop, when and how much fuel they tank etc. The inventory,  
maintenance and accounting part is not in this system. Is there anybody  
using ofbiz for this part of a fleet management something already  
available or something built on top of ofbiz? Any advice on something like  
this?

br,

--
Florin Jurcovici
------------------
Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks for tips Florin

Jacques

----- Original Message -----
From: "Florin Jurcovici" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: Simple backend UI enhancement proposition

> Hello.
>
> Not in ofbiz, but in some Domino-backed web frontend we use tabs without  
> Ajax and without any overload for the server. I don't rea''y know what I'm  
> talking about, but I suppose it should be easy to add tabs in ofbiz based  
> on a similar mechanism.
>
> Just enclose what needs to be placed on one tab in a <div></div>, then add  
> some simple JS and some hotspots which show/hide only one of the divs  
> (i.e. tabs) at a time. This way, the rendering and the functionality  
> associated to whatever other form elements are there is not affected, and  
> you don't need Ajax to re-render/re-fill/re-compute/re-whatever fields on  
> tab changes.
>
> Tooltips: maybe use the browser's status bar?
>
> br,
>
> --
> Florin Jurcovici
> ------------------
> Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?
>
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:41:50 +0200, Jacques Le Roux  
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Ok, it seems that it's not the great idea that everybody was waiting for  
> > ;o)
> >
> > Though we may keep 2 ideas from this thread :
> >
> > Using tabs to hide unnecessary complexity and break overload of  
> > information in some screens. Is it desirable/possible to create a
> > tabs artifact in form widget ? Else I guess we have to use Ajax, but is  
> > that desirable in backend ?
> >
> > Using tooltips to better explain non obvious fields. By real tooltips I  
> > mean using the html title attribute. This is already done
> > for explaining format of date fields for instance and IMO should be  
> > generalized for non obvious fields. It's easily done, don't
> > clutter the UI but can't be used for option tag (title attribute is  
> > accepted but browser do not render it).  Anyway in this case the
> > widgets take care of the problem by adding a plain text after the select  
> > field.
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David E. Jones" <[hidden email]>
> > To: <[hidden email]>
> > Cc: "Tom Anderson" <[hidden email]>; "Ian McNulty"  
> > <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: Simple backend UI enhancement proposition
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Jan 22, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Jonathon -- Improov wrote:
> >>
> >> > > It could be very useful for new users to have a help icon link
> >> > next to
> >> > > each field or for each form with a full explanation of each field
> >> > and
> >> > > examples.
> >> >
> >> > THAT is what I've been pushing for too! Anyway, I'm also happy that
> >> > the OFBiz community is focusing more time on improving/debugging
> >> > OFBiz (and neglecting docs aspect).
> >> >
> >> > But your suggestion won't even see light of day, at least not until
> >> > someone DOES do a proper comprehensive doc of OFBiz (ERP aspect,
> >> > not framework). As it is now, I often ask questions about OFBiz-ERP
> >> > that even veterans don't know how to answer offhand (what with
> >> > 600,000++ lines of codes and 700+ database tables!).
> >>
> >> There is a lot of work to be done here, and lot left to do, but it
> >> _has_ already been started and there is a pretty good bit of
> >> information that mostly needs to be restructured but of course could
> >> also use some editing and fleshing out. Check out these links:
> >>
> >> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/Bw
> >> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/Y
> >> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/5gI
> >>
> >> Once there are more fleshed out and structured it will be easy to add
> >> links to them in the applications.
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

[David E Jones]

Anil Patel is the man to talk to for this. Chances are he'll see  
these messages and may comment.

I know he is doing a fleet management application, and some of it has  
even been contributed back to OFBiz. In order to make a more generic  
solution he has even written a generic piece for general asset  
management that has just gone back into OFBiz (in the new assetmaint  
component).

This focuses on the part that I think you said you are looking for,  
namely "inventory, maintenance and accounting". I may have  
misunderstood that though. Whatever the case, that is the kind of  
stuff OFBiz is best suited for.

I believe Anil was talking at one point about doing location tracking  
and I know there are some structures for that.

So yeah, maybe this would work out well as a basis for what you need.

-David


On Jan 22, 2007, at 5:50 AM, Florin Jurcovici wrote:

> Hello.
>
> A potential customer wants to replace everything  he has (re.  
> software for managing his business). Among other things, he needs a  
> fleet management system. His cars all have a third-party fleet  
> management system over GPRS in working condition. However, this is  
> just to see where the cars travel, when they stop, when and how  
> much fuel they tank etc. The inventory, maintenance and accounting  
> part is not in this system. Is there anybody using ofbiz for this  
> part of a fleet management something already available or something  
> built on top of ofbiz? Any advice on something like this?
>
> br,
>
> --
> Florin Jurcovici
> ------------------
> Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?

[Anil Patel]

Florin,
We have developed component on top of Ofbiz for managing fleet. At this time
we are not traking GPRS data but will sometime in future.
At this time we are using
1)  PO
2)  Parts Inventory management
3)  Asset Tracking
4)  Maintenance (Other wise called WorkOrders)
5)  Labor Time tracking
6)  Preventive Maintenance
7)  Fuel consumption monitering.
8)  Some Reports

Tools specific to Fleet management are still not in Ofbiz component,
eventually we'll put everything in there. The AssetMaint  component in ofbiz
is good starting point. I can work with you to in enhancing this component.

Regards
Anil Patel


On 1/22/07, David E. Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Anil Patel is the man to talk to for this. Chances are he'll see
> these messages and may comment.
>
> I know he is doing a fleet management application, and some of it has
> even been contributed back to OFBiz. In order to make a more generic
> solution he has even written a generic piece for general asset
> management that has just gone back into OFBiz (in the new assetmaint
> component).
>
> This focuses on the part that I think you said you are looking for,
> namely "inventory, maintenance and accounting". I may have
> misunderstood that though. Whatever the case, that is the kind of
> stuff OFBiz is best suited for.
>
> I believe Anil was talking at one point about doing location tracking
> and I know there are some structures for that.
>
> So yeah, maybe this would work out well as a basis for what you need.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2007, at 5:50 AM, Florin Jurcovici wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > A potential customer wants to replace everything  he has (re.
> > software for managing his business). Among other things, he needs a
> > fleet management system. His cars all have a third-party fleet
> > management system over GPRS in working condition. However, this is
> > just to see where the cars travel, when they stop, when and how
> > much fuel they tank etc. The inventory, maintenance and accounting
> > part is not in this system. Is there anybody using ofbiz for this
> > part of a fleet management something already available or something
> > built on top of ofbiz? Any advice on something like this?
> >
> > br,
> >
> > --
> > Florin Jurcovici
> > ------------------
> > Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?
>
>
>
>

[flj]

Hello.

Let's see if the customer bites the bait. If he does, I'll get back at  
you. Main thing is, if this will get done, we don't have to start from  
scratch.

br,

--
Florin Jurcovici
------------------
Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:52:32 +0200, Anil Patel <[hidden email]>  
wrote:

> Florin,
> We have developed component on top of Ofbiz for managing fleet. At this  
> time
> we are not traking GPRS data but will sometime in future.
> At this time we are using
> 1)  PO
> 2)  Parts Inventory management
> 3)  Asset Tracking
> 4)  Maintenance (Other wise called WorkOrders)
> 5)  Labor Time tracking
> 6)  Preventive Maintenance
> 7)  Fuel consumption monitering.
> 8)  Some Reports
>
> Tools specific to Fleet management are still not in Ofbiz component,
> eventually we'll put everything in there. The AssetMaint  component in  
> ofbiz
> is good starting point. I can work with you to in enhancing this  
> component.
>
> Regards
> Anil Patel
>
>
> On 1/22/07, David E. Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Anil Patel is the man to talk to for this. Chances are he'll see
>> these messages and may comment.
>>
>> I know he is doing a fleet management application, and some of it has
>> even been contributed back to OFBiz. In order to make a more generic
>> solution he has even written a generic piece for general asset
>> management that has just gone back into OFBiz (in the new assetmaint
>> component).
>>
>> This focuses on the part that I think you said you are looking for,
>> namely "inventory, maintenance and accounting". I may have
>> misunderstood that though. Whatever the case, that is the kind of
>> stuff OFBiz is best suited for.
>>
>> I believe Anil was talking at one point about doing location tracking
>> and I know there are some structures for that.
>>
>> So yeah, maybe this would work out well as a basis for what you need.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2007, at 5:50 AM, Florin Jurcovici wrote:
>>
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > A potential customer wants to replace everything  he has (re.
>> > software for managing his business). Among other things, he needs a
>> > fleet management system. His cars all have a third-party fleet
>> > management system over GPRS in working condition. However, this is
>> > just to see where the cars travel, when they stop, when and how
>> > much fuel they tank etc. The inventory, maintenance and accounting
>> > part is not in this system. Is there anybody using ofbiz for this
>> > part of a fleet management something already available or something
>> > built on top of ofbiz? Any advice on something like this?
>> >
>> > br,
>> >
>> > --
>> > Florin Jurcovici
>> > ------------------
>> > Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?
>>
>>
>>
>>

[Amine AZZI]

Hello,

I have a customer seeking an application that tracks his expenses on his
automobile pool (rent, maint., fuel, spare, ...). I have no idea about fleet
management, but it sounds like my requirments. I hope so, it would save me
time.

Amine AZZI
Computer engineer.
Algiers, Algeria

2007/1/23, Florin Jurcovici <[hidden email]>:

>
> Hello.
>
> Let's see if the customer bites the bait. If he does, I'll get back at
> you. Main thing is, if this will get done, we don't have to start from
> scratch.
>
> br,
>
> --
> Florin Jurcovici
> ------------------
> Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?
>
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:52:32 +0200, Anil Patel <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Florin,
> > We have developed component on top of Ofbiz for managing fleet. At this
> > time
> > we are not traking GPRS data but will sometime in future.
> > At this time we are using
> > 1)  PO
> > 2)  Parts Inventory management
> > 3)  Asset Tracking
> > 4)  Maintenance (Other wise called WorkOrders)
> > 5)  Labor Time tracking
> > 6)  Preventive Maintenance
> > 7)  Fuel consumption monitering.
> > 8)  Some Reports
> >
> > Tools specific to Fleet management are still not in Ofbiz component,
> > eventually we'll put everything in there. The AssetMaint  component in
> > ofbiz
> > is good starting point. I can work with you to in enhancing this
> > component.
> >
> > Regards
> > Anil Patel
> >
> >
> > On 1/22/07, David E. Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Anil Patel is the man to talk to for this. Chances are he'll see
> >> these messages and may comment.
> >>
> >> I know he is doing a fleet management application, and some of it has
> >> even been contributed back to OFBiz. In order to make a more generic
> >> solution he has even written a generic piece for general asset
> >> management that has just gone back into OFBiz (in the new assetmaint
> >> component).
> >>
> >> This focuses on the part that I think you said you are looking for,
> >> namely "inventory, maintenance and accounting". I may have
> >> misunderstood that though. Whatever the case, that is the kind of
> >> stuff OFBiz is best suited for.
> >>
> >> I believe Anil was talking at one point about doing location tracking
> >> and I know there are some structures for that.
> >>
> >> So yeah, maybe this would work out well as a basis for what you need.
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 22, 2007, at 5:50 AM, Florin Jurcovici wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello.
> >> >
> >> > A potential customer wants to replace everything  he has (re.
> >> > software for managing his business). Among other things, he needs a
> >> > fleet management system. His cars all have a third-party fleet
> >> > management system over GPRS in working condition. However, this is
> >> > just to see where the cars travel, when they stop, when and how
> >> > much fuel they tank etc. The inventory, maintenance and accounting
> >> > part is not in this system. Is there anybody using ofbiz for this
> >> > part of a fleet management something already available or something
> >> > built on top of ofbiz? Any advice on something like this?
> >> >
> >> > br,
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Florin Jurcovici
> >> > ------------------
> >> > Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
>