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I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like the trunk is more stable :/
I did not have enough time to look into logs enough, but I don't think it's a memory issue but in case of I have increased from MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" to MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" Though it will not be used until next reboot Jacques |
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It's easy to tell if it is a perm gen problem, the logs will say so quite clearly. Hopefully one day I'll be granted access and can help out a bit.
Regards Scott HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com On 21/04/2010, at 8:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like the trunk is more stable :/ > I did not have enough time to look into logs enough, but I don't think it's a memory issue but in case of I have increased from > MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" > to > MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" > Though it will not be used until next reboot > > Jacques > |
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I don't think it's a perm gen problem or other memory issue, but anyway we have enough place and it can't hurt but we will have less
cache... Yes it would be great to have some help there :o) Jacques From: "Scott Gray" <[hidden email]> It's easy to tell if it is a perm gen problem, the logs will say so quite clearly. Hopefully one day I'll be granted access and can help out a bit. Regards Scott HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com On 21/04/2010, at 8:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like the trunk is more stable :/ > I did not have enough time to look into logs enough, but I don't think it's a memory issue but in case of I have increased from > MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" > to > MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" > Though it will not be used until next reboot > > Jacques > |
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I just restarted my 9.04 that has run since Apr 09 only becuase it had
increased in memeory. but it does not die. I just increased to -Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m and I show 1412064 kB used for it. ======================= BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 1:38 PM: > I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like the trunk is more > stable :/ > I did not have enough time to look into logs enough, but I don't think > it's a memory issue but in case of I have increased from > MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" > to > MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" > Though it will not be used until next reboot > > Jacques > > |
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The stable demo currently use 650m, the trunk 1,5g. We have 2.6g at all
But as I said, I don't think it's a memory issue, just that I had/have not enought time to scrutinize in the logs. As I said already earlier, I saw java.net.SocketException: Broken pipe Not sure it's the original reason though... Jacques From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >I just restarted my 9.04 that has run since Apr 09 only becuase it had > increased in memeory. but it does not die. > > I just increased to -Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m and I show > 1412064 kB used for it. > > > > ======================= > > BJ Freeman > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> > > > Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 1:38 PM: >> I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like the trunk is more >> stable :/ >> I did not have enough time to look into logs enough, but I don't think >> it's a memory issue but in case of I have increased from >> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" >> to >> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" >> Though it will not be used until next reboot >> >> Jacques >> >> > > |
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Someone needs to call a plumber. I think this problem is outside our expertise.
--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: Stable demo > To: [hidden email] > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:52 PM > The stable demo currently use 650m, > the trunk 1,5g. We have 2.6g at all > But as I said, I don't think it's a memory issue, just that > I had/have not enought time to scrutinize in the logs. > As I said already earlier, I saw java.net.SocketException: > Broken pipe > Not sure it's the original reason though... > > Jacques > > From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> > >I just restarted my 9.04 that has run since Apr 09 only > becuase it had > > increased in memeory. but it does not die. > > > > I just increased to -Xms128M -Xmx768M > -XX:MaxPermSize=512m and I show > > 1412064 kB used for it. > > > > > > > > ======================= > > > > BJ Freeman > > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> > > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > > > > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > > <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> > > > > > > Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 1:38 > PM: > >> I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like > the trunk is more > >> stable :/ > >> I did not have enough time to look into logs > enough, but I don't think > >> it's a memory issue but in case of I have > increased from > >> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" > >> to > >> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" > >> Though it will not be used until next reboot > >> > >> Jacques > >> > >> > > > > > > |
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are the logs available like they were before for we moved to infra?
i would be glad to look at them. broken pipes is usually to much traffic through the ajp or possibly your using to much of the swap file and getting slow responses from ofbiz, are my guesses. but then again Trunk is not failing. the difference could be the traffic. the memory allocation(1412064 kB) is what Centos gives back for the instance of 9.04 I am running. the command line to start 9.04 is -Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m if you give me the memory settings for trunk I will run that and tell you what centos says it has allocated for it. I am guessing the Unbutu will give allocate similar memory. I am also guessing that approx 3 times the 1412064 kB is being allocated for the trunk. that well exceeds RAM and puts its on virtual memory or swap file. my experience is when the swap file is on the same disk as the rest of the apps and logs,and it is located on inside of the disk instead of the outside, that there is hesitation in the virtual memory that causes glitches. not sure if you have root but you can check your swap file size both when 9.04 is not running and when it is. I am running 4 gigs so I am not using any swap file. ========================= BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 10:52 PM: > The stable demo currently use 650m, the trunk 1,5g. We have 2.6g at all > But as I said, I don't think it's a memory issue, just that I had/have > not enought time to scrutinize in the logs. > As I said already earlier, I saw java.net.SocketException: Broken pipe > Not sure it's the original reason though... > > Jacques > > From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >> I just restarted my 9.04 that has run since Apr 09 only becuase it had >> increased in memeory. but it does not die. >> >> I just increased to -Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m and I show >> 1412064 kB used for it. >> >> >> >> ======================= >> >> BJ Freeman >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> >> >> >> >> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 1:38 PM: >>> I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like the trunk is more >>> stable :/ >>> I did not have enough time to look into logs enough, but I don't think >>> it's a memory issue but in case of I have increased from >>> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" >>> to >>> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" >>> Though it will not be used until next reboot >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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It's not - we just have to get the information out and make it a priority. I suspect that anyone using this stuff in production is having the same problem. IMO, what we need to have happen is for the ASF to give more of us access so that we can get more of the information out there to more people who might be able to actually fix the problem.
Scott and I in particular are still waiting for our access to be resolved. Cheers, Ruppert On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: > Someone needs to call a plumber. I think this problem is outside our expertise. > > > --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: Stable demo >> To: [hidden email] >> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:52 PM >> The stable demo currently use 650m, >> the trunk 1,5g. We have 2.6g at all >> But as I said, I don't think it's a memory issue, just that >> I had/have not enought time to scrutinize in the logs. >> As I said already earlier, I saw java.net.SocketException: >> Broken pipe >> Not sure it's the original reason though... >> >> Jacques >> >> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >>> I just restarted my 9.04 that has run since Apr 09 only >> becuase it had >>> increased in memeory. but it does not die. >>> >>> I just increased to -Xms128M -Xmx768M >> -XX:MaxPermSize=512m and I show >>> 1412064 kB used for it. >>> >>> >>> >>> ======================= >>> >>> BJ Freeman >>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> >>> >>> >>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 1:38 >> PM: >>>> I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like >> the trunk is more >>>> stable :/ >>>> I did not have enough time to look into logs >> enough, but I don't think >>>> it's a memory issue but in case of I have >> increased from >>>> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" >>>> to >>>> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" >>>> Though it will not be used until next reboot >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > |
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No, the logs are not available anymore
Then trunk memory setting is -Xms128M -Xmx1024M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m Your guess on traffic may be right, but I wonder why we would not have the same problem at some point with the trunk Jacques From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> > are the logs available like they were before for we moved to infra? > i would be glad to look at them. > > broken pipes is usually to much traffic through the ajp > or > possibly your using to much of the swap file and getting slow responses > from ofbiz, are my guesses. but then again Trunk is not failing. the > difference could be the traffic. > > the memory allocation(1412064 kB) is what Centos gives back for the > instance of 9.04 I am running. the command line to start 9.04 is > -Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m > > if you give me the memory settings for trunk I will run that and tell > you what centos says it has allocated for it. > I am guessing the Unbutu will give allocate similar memory. > I am also guessing that approx 3 times the 1412064 kB is being allocated > for the trunk. > that well exceeds RAM and puts its on virtual memory or swap file. > > my experience is when the swap file is on the same disk as the rest of > the apps and logs,and it is located on inside of the disk instead of the > outside, that there is hesitation in the virtual memory that causes > glitches. > > not sure if you have root but you can check your swap file size both > when 9.04 is not running and when it is. > I am running 4 gigs so I am not using any swap file. > > ========================= > BJ Freeman > http://bjfreeman.elance.com > Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> > Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > > Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > > Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> > > > Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 10:52 PM: >> The stable demo currently use 650m, the trunk 1,5g. We have 2.6g at all >> But as I said, I don't think it's a memory issue, just that I had/have >> not enought time to scrutinize in the logs. >> As I said already earlier, I saw java.net.SocketException: Broken pipe >> Not sure it's the original reason though... >> >> Jacques >> >> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >>> I just restarted my 9.04 that has run since Apr 09 only becuase it had >>> increased in memeory. but it does not die. >>> >>> I just increased to -Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m and I show >>> 1412064 kB used for it. >>> >>> >>> >>> ======================= >>> >>> BJ Freeman >>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>> >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>> >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> >>> >>> >>> >>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 1:38 PM: >>>> I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like the trunk is more >>>> stable :/ >>>> I did not have enough time to look into logs enough, but I don't think >>>> it's a memory issue but in case of I have increased from >>>> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" >>>> to >>>> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" >>>> Though it will not be used until next reboot >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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just to make sure I used -Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m for the
trunk. centos showed less than my 9.04 1400704 kB I have added some code to 9.04 so that may account for the difference. next I used the -Xms1024M on my trunkdemo centos showed 1662268 kb based on this if your the only apps on the server you should not show any swap file activity or size. as a side note, my 9.04 got a out of memory at -Xmx512M for artifactinfo, but not at -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m where the demo trunk did not get an out of memory at -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m ========================= BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/21/2010 11:24 AM: > No, the logs are not available anymore > > Then trunk memory setting is -Xms128M -Xmx1024M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m > > Your guess on traffic may be right, but I wonder why we would not have > the same problem at some point with the trunk > > Jacques > > From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >> are the logs available like they were before for we moved to infra? >> i would be glad to look at them. >> >> broken pipes is usually to much traffic through the ajp >> or >> possibly your using to much of the swap file and getting slow responses >> from ofbiz, are my guesses. but then again Trunk is not failing. the >> difference could be the traffic. >> >> the memory allocation(1412064 kB) is what Centos gives back for the >> instance of 9.04 I am running. the command line to start 9.04 is >> -Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m >> >> if you give me the memory settings for trunk I will run that and tell >> you what centos says it has allocated for it. >> I am guessing the Unbutu will give allocate similar memory. >> I am also guessing that approx 3 times the 1412064 kB is being allocated >> for the trunk. >> that well exceeds RAM and puts its on virtual memory or swap file. >> >> my experience is when the swap file is on the same disk as the rest of >> the apps and logs,and it is located on inside of the disk instead of the >> outside, that there is hesitation in the virtual memory that causes >> glitches. >> >> not sure if you have root but you can check your swap file size both >> when 9.04 is not running and when it is. >> I am running 4 gigs so I am not using any swap file. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman >> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> >> >> >> >> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 10:52 PM: >>> The stable demo currently use 650m, the trunk 1,5g. We have 2.6g at all >>> But as I said, I don't think it's a memory issue, just that I had/have >>> not enought time to scrutinize in the logs. >>> As I said already earlier, I saw java.net.SocketException: Broken pipe >>> Not sure it's the original reason though... >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> >>>> I just restarted my 9.04 that has run since Apr 09 only becuase it had >>>> increased in memeory. but it does not die. >>>> >>>> I just increased to -Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m and I show >>>> 1412064 kB used for it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ======================= >>>> >>>> BJ Freeman >>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 1:38 PM: >>>>> I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like the trunk is more >>>>> stable :/ >>>>> I did not have enough time to look into logs enough, but I don't think >>>>> it's a memory issue but in case of I have increased from >>>>> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" >>>>> to >>>>> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" >>>>> Though it will not be used until next reboot >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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i gave it some time to see why you do not have access but could not see anything wrong. I am sorry i have to gave up on this and give it back to the ASF to be resolved, i ran out of time. Regards, Hans On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 08:30 -0600, Tim Ruppert wrote: > It's not - we just have to get the information out and make it a priority. I suspect that anyone using this stuff in production is having the same problem. IMO, what we need to have happen is for the ASF to give more of us access so that we can get more of the information out there to more people who might be able to actually fix the problem. > > Scott and I in particular are still waiting for our access to be resolved. > > Cheers, > Ruppert > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: > > > Someone needs to call a plumber. I think this problem is outside our expertise. > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> > >> Subject: Re: Stable demo > >> To: [hidden email] > >> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:52 PM > >> The stable demo currently use 650m, > >> the trunk 1,5g. We have 2.6g at all > >> But as I said, I don't think it's a memory issue, just that > >> I had/have not enought time to scrutinize in the logs. > >> As I said already earlier, I saw java.net.SocketException: > >> Broken pipe > >> Not sure it's the original reason though... > >> > >> Jacques > >> > >> From: "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]> > >>> I just restarted my 9.04 that has run since Apr 09 only > >> becuase it had > >>> increased in memeory. but it does not die. > >>> > >>> I just increased to -Xms128M -Xmx768M > >> -XX:MaxPermSize=512m and I show > >>> 1412064 kB used for it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ======================= > >>> > >>> BJ Freeman > >>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com > >>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> > >>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> > >>> > >>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist > >>> > >>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man > >>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> > >>> > >>> > >>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 4/20/2010 1:38 > >> PM: > >>>> I just rebooted again the stable demo. Looks like > >> the trunk is more > >>>> stable :/ > >>>> I did not have enough time to look into logs > >> enough, but I don't think > >>>> it's a memory issue but in case of I have > >> increased from > >>>> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx512M -XX:MaxPermSize=256m" > >>>> to > >>>> MEMIF="-Xms128M -Xmx768M -XX:MaxPermSize=512m" > >>>> Though it will not be used until next reboot > >>>> > >>>> Jacques > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak Antwebsystems.com: Quality services for competitive rates. |
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