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Forrest Rae

Starting a new

Hi Everyone,

With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?

-Forrest

Nicolas Malin-2

Re: Starting a new

Hi Forrest,

But for what doing ? Production site, testing, learning or just for fun ?

If you want install a debian, you will choose stable, testing, unstable
or experimental ? :)

Nicolas

Le 02/10/2014 19:50, Forrest Rae a écrit :
> Hi Everyone,
>
> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>
> -Forrest

Anil Patel-3

Re: Starting a new

Forrest,
I recommend 13.07.

Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
COO
Hotwax Media Inc
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/
ApacheCon US 2014 Silver Sponsor
http://na.apachecon.com/sponsor/our-sponsors

On Oct 2, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Forrest,
>
> But for what doing ? Production site, testing, learning or just for fun ?
>
> If you want install a debian, you will choose stable, testing, unstable or experimental ? :)
>
> Nicolas
>
> Le 02/10/2014 19:50, Forrest Rae a écrit :
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>
>> -Forrest
>

Forrest Rae

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by Nicolas Malin-2

Hi Nicolas,

Production. I have my seed data all put together, and ready to roll out
a production env.

I've just been using trunk for my learning/development.

-Forrest

On 10/2/2014 11:26 AM, Nicolas Malin wrote:

> Hi Forrest,
>
> But for what doing ? Production site, testing, learning or just for fun ?
>
> If you want install a debian, you will choose stable, testing, unstable
> or experimental ? :)
>
> Nicolas
>
> Le 02/10/2014 19:50, Forrest Rae a écrit :
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>
>> -Forrest
>

Forrest Rae

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by Anil Patel-3

Hi Anil,

Do you just mean the branch in SVN [1], or just the trunk for now until
13.07.01 is released?

-Forrest

1: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/release13.07/

On 10/2/2014 11:50 AM, Anil Patel wrote:

> Forrest,
> I recommend 13.07.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil Patel
> COO
> Hotwax Media Inc
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/
> ApacheCon US 2014 Silver Sponsor
> http://na.apachecon.com/sponsor/our-sponsors
>
> On Oct 2, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Forrest,
>>
>> But for what doing ? Production site, testing, learning or just for fun ?
>>
>> If you want install a debian, you will choose stable, testing, unstable or experimental ? :)
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> Le 02/10/2014 19:50, Forrest Rae a écrit :
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>>
>>> -Forrest
>>
>

Forrest Rae

Re: Starting a new

Sorry to spam,

Reason I ask is there seems to be a pretty large set of changes between
trunk and the release13.07 branch.

-Forrest

On 10/2/2014 12:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:

> Hi Anil,
>
> Do you just mean the branch in SVN [1], or just the trunk for now until
> 13.07.01 is released?
>
> -Forrest
>
> 1: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/release13.07/
>
> On 10/2/2014 11:50 AM, Anil Patel wrote:
>> Forrest,
>> I recommend 13.07.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Anil Patel
>> COO
>> Hotwax Media Inc
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/
>> ApacheCon US 2014 Silver Sponsor
>> http://na.apachecon.com/sponsor/our-sponsors
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Nicolas Malin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Forrest,
>>>
>>> But for what doing ? Production site, testing, learning or just for fun ?
>>>
>>> If you want install a debian, you will choose stable, testing, unstable or experimental ? :)
>>>
>>> Nicolas
>>>
>>> Le 02/10/2014 19:50, Forrest Rae a écrit :
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>>>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>>>
>>>> -Forrest
>>>
>>

Adrian Crum-3

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by Forrest Rae

I recommend always deploying from the latest release branch. Right now
that is 13.07.

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 10/2/2014 6:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>
> -Forrest
>

Jacques Le Roux

Re: Starting a new

Administrator

I use trunk myself, but like Adrian I'd generally recommend the lastest release branch.
The trunk is really bleeding edge and the only advantage I have using it is, since I'm a committer, I can interact with it and add new features I use
in custom projects more easily.
Anyway if ever you need a new feature from the trunk it's often easy to simply merge it from the trunk...

Jacques

Le 02/10/2014 21:57, Adrian Crum a écrit :

> I recommend always deploying from the latest release branch. Right now that is 13.07.
>
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
>
> On 10/2/2014 6:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>
>> -Forrest
>>
>

Anil Patel-3

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by Forrest Rae

Yes, get 13.07 from http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/release13.07

Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
COO
Hotwax Media Inc
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/
ApacheCon US 2014 Silver Sponsor
http://na.apachecon.com/sponsor/our-sponsors

On Oct 2, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Forrest Rae <[hidden email]> wrote:

taher

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by Jacques Le Roux

Hi everyone,

On the same topic, would it be a bad/good practice to pull on a certain
revision from trunk, stabilize it, ship to customer and do an upgrade once
in like every six months or so? I am considering this model by committing
this certain revision into git and branching out on my own work and then
merge whatever i pull from subversion. This way we can stay bleeding edge
while staying relatively stable. This can also be done in combination with
the ofbiz addon manager which we found to be very handy.

Any thoughts on that?

Taher Alkhateeb
On Oct 2, 2014 11:59 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> I use trunk myself, but like Adrian I'd generally recommend the lastest
> release branch.
> The trunk is really bleeding edge and the only advantage I have using it
> is, since I'm a committer, I can interact with it and add new features I
> use in custom projects more easily.
> Anyway if ever you need a new feature from the trunk it's often easy to
> simply merge it from the trunk...
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 02/10/2014 21:57, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>
>> I recommend always deploying from the latest release branch. Right now
>> that is 13.07.
>>
>> Adrian Crum
>> Sandglass Software
>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>
>> On 10/2/2014 6:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>>
>>> -Forrest
>>>
>>>
>>

Jacques Le Roux

Re: Starting a new

Administrator

Le 02/10/2014 23:14, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> Hi everyone,
>
> On the same topic, would it be a bad/good practice to pull on a certain
> revision from trunk, stabilize it, ship to customer and do an upgrade once
> in like every six months or so?

This is what I kinda do. But I update every week and at some point I freeze and backport the important bug fixes myself. Of course this means to stay
tuned.

> I am considering this model by committing
> this certain revision into git and branching out on my own work and then
> merge whatever i pull from subversion. This way we can stay bleeding edge
> while staying relatively stable. This can also be done in combination with
> the ofbiz addon manager which we found to be very handy.

Ha interesting, for how long are you using the ofbiz addon manage? Did you reuse existing addons or simply created your own?

Jacques

> Any thoughts on that?
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
> On Oct 2, 2014 11:59 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> I use trunk myself, but like Adrian I'd generally recommend the lastest
>> release branch.
>> The trunk is really bleeding edge and the only advantage I have using it
>> is, since I'm a committer, I can interact with it and add new features I
>> use in custom projects more easily.
>> Anyway if ever you need a new feature from the trunk it's often easy to
>> simply merge it from the trunk...
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> Le 02/10/2014 21:57, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>>
>>> I recommend always deploying from the latest release branch. Right now
>>> that is 13.07.
>>>
>>> Adrian Crum
>>> Sandglass Software
>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>
>>> On 10/2/2014 6:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>>>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>>>
>>>> -Forrest
>>>>
>>>>

Pierre Smits

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by taher

Taher,

We follow a somewhat similar approach. Though our production environment is
primarily based on the 12.x branch, we do follow al commits in trunk and
apply a good number of them in our versions ahead of releases.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> On the same topic, would it be a bad/good practice to pull on a certain
> revision from trunk, stabilize it, ship to customer and do an upgrade once
> in like every six months or so? I am considering this model by committing
> this certain revision into git and branching out on my own work and then
> merge whatever i pull from subversion. This way we can stay bleeding edge
> while staying relatively stable. This can also be done in combination with
> the ofbiz addon manager which we found to be very handy.
>
> Any thoughts on that?
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
> On Oct 2, 2014 11:59 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > I use trunk myself, but like Adrian I'd generally recommend the lastest
> > release branch.
> > The trunk is really bleeding edge and the only advantage I have using it
> > is, since I'm a committer, I can interact with it and add new features I
> > use in custom projects more easily.
> > Anyway if ever you need a new feature from the trunk it's often easy to
> > simply merge it from the trunk...
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > Le 02/10/2014 21:57, Adrian Crum a écrit :
> >
> >> I recommend always deploying from the latest release branch. Right now
> >> that is 13.07.
> >>
> >> Adrian Crum
> >> Sandglass Software
> >> www.sandglass-software.com
> >>
> >> On 10/2/2014 6:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>
> >>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
> >>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
> >>>
> >>> -Forrest
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>

taher

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by Jacques Le Roux

Hi Jacques,

We've been using the addon manager for a while quite a while. I have translated most of ofbiz to Arabic using the DOP patches which are easily upgradable to newer versions.

We do not have access to the repository source code repository anymore for some reason, I only get the executables in sourceforge.

Thank you for the tips, I will take them into consideration in our next version upgrade! We will start to depend more on trunk to also be more useful and contributing to the project.

Taher Alkhateeb

----- Original Message -----

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, 3 October, 2014 12:27:19 PM
Subject: Re: Starting a new

Le 02/10/2014 23:14, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> Hi everyone,
>
> On the same topic, would it be a bad/good practice to pull on a certain
> revision from trunk, stabilize it, ship to customer and do an upgrade once
> in like every six months or so?

This is what I kinda do. But I update every week and at some point I freeze and backport the important bug fixes myself. Of course this means to stay
tuned.

> I am considering this model by committing
> this certain revision into git and branching out on my own work and then
> merge whatever i pull from subversion. This way we can stay bleeding edge
> while staying relatively stable. This can also be done in combination with
> the ofbiz addon manager which we found to be very handy.

Ha interesting, for how long are you using the ofbiz addon manage? Did you reuse existing addons or simply created your own?

Jacques

taher

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by Pierre Smits

Hi Pierre,

If you apply commits selectively, do you handle conflicts manually? It is a pain for us and that is why we are considering git a major tool for doing this!

Taher Alkhateeb

----- Original Message -----

From: "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, 3 October, 2014 12:34:21 PM
Subject: Re: Starting a new

Taher,

We follow a somewhat similar approach. Though our production environment is
primarily based on the 12.x branch, we do follow al commits in trunk and
apply a good number of them in our versions ahead of releases.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]
> wrote:

Adrian Crum-3

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by taher

It would be really cool if your translations made it into the project!

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 10/3/2014 11:50 AM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:

> Hi Jacques,
>
> We've been using the addon manager for a while quite a while. I have translated most of ofbiz to Arabic using the DOP patches which are easily upgradable to newer versions.
>
> We do not have access to the repository source code repository anymore for some reason, I only get the executables in sourceforge.
>
> Thank you for the tips, I will take them into consideration in our next version upgrade! We will start to depend more on trunk to also be more useful and contributing to the project.
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Friday, 3 October, 2014 12:27:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Starting a new
>
>
> Le 02/10/2014 23:14, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> On the same topic, would it be a bad/good practice to pull on a certain
>> revision from trunk, stabilize it, ship to customer and do an upgrade once
>> in like every six months or so?
>
> This is what I kinda do. But I update every week and at some point I freeze and backport the important bug fixes myself. Of course this means to stay
> tuned.
>
>> I am considering this model by committing
>> this certain revision into git and branching out on my own work and then
>> merge whatever i pull from subversion. This way we can stay bleeding edge
>> while staying relatively stable. This can also be done in combination with
>> the ofbiz addon manager which we found to be very handy.
>
> Ha interesting, for how long are you using the ofbiz addon manage? Did you reuse existing addons or simply created your own?
>
> Jacques
>
>> Any thoughts on that?
>>
>> Taher Alkhateeb
>> On Oct 2, 2014 11:59 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I use trunk myself, but like Adrian I'd generally recommend the lastest
>>> release branch.
>>> The trunk is really bleeding edge and the only advantage I have using it
>>> is, since I'm a committer, I can interact with it and add new features I
>>> use in custom projects more easily.
>>> Anyway if ever you need a new feature from the trunk it's often easy to
>>> simply merge it from the trunk...
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> Le 02/10/2014 21:57, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I recommend always deploying from the latest release branch. Right now
>>>> that is 13.07.
>>>>
>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>
>>>> On 10/2/2014 6:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>>>>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Forrest
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>

Pierre Smits

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by taher

Taher,

Every commit registered in trunk should be considered when you have an
production implementation that is based on a released version and when you
want to stay on top of bug fixes and improvements for your customers.

Applying changes to the production environment without due diligence in the
production environment for your own or your customers is introducing risk
to the sustainability of your and their organisations. Risk mitigation is
always a pain. But needs to be done dilligently.

Switching to Git, like others in the project have done, does have its
advantages when it comes to commits done in another way than through patch
files in JIRA issues. Nevertheless, it doesn't forego on the aspect that
each commit must be investigated and assessed regarding its impact (risk vs
benefit) on your production environment.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> If you apply commits selectively, do you handle conflicts manually? It is
> a pain for us and that is why we are considering git a major tool for doing
> this!
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Friday, 3 October, 2014 12:34:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Starting a new
>
> Taher,
>
> We follow a somewhat similar approach. Though our production environment is
> primarily based on the 12.x branch, we do follow al commits in trunk and
> apply a good number of them in our versions ahead of releases.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> [hidden email]
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > On the same topic, would it be a bad/good practice to pull on a certain
> > revision from trunk, stabilize it, ship to customer and do an upgrade
> once
> > in like every six months or so? I am considering this model by committing
> > this certain revision into git and branching out on my own work and then
> > merge whatever i pull from subversion. This way we can stay bleeding edge
> > while staying relatively stable. This can also be done in combination
> with
> > the ofbiz addon manager which we found to be very handy.
> >
> > Any thoughts on that?
> >
> > Taher Alkhateeb
> > On Oct 2, 2014 11:59 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I use trunk myself, but like Adrian I'd generally recommend the lastest
> > > release branch.
> > > The trunk is really bleeding edge and the only advantage I have using
> it
> > > is, since I'm a committer, I can interact with it and add new features
> I
> > > use in custom projects more easily.
> > > Anyway if ever you need a new feature from the trunk it's often easy to
> > > simply merge it from the trunk...
> > >
> > > Jacques
> > >
> > > Le 02/10/2014 21:57, Adrian Crum a écrit :
> > >
> > >> I recommend always deploying from the latest release branch. Right now
> > >> that is 13.07.
> > >>
> > >> Adrian Crum
> > >> Sandglass Software
> > >> www.sandglass-software.com
> > >>
> > >> On 10/2/2014 6:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with
> 12.04,
> > >>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
> > >>>
> > >>> -Forrest
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
>
>

taher

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by Adrian Crum-3

Hi Adrian,

We would love to push those changes once we start depending more on trunk. I remember from earlier JIRAs we made that can only apply translations to trunk and that I probably cannot create one massive patch, so I still have to break the addon into mutiple patches to be accepted.

Nevertheless, we definitely would love to contribute the translations as soon as we get some clear-headed time to do so.

Taher Alkhateeb

----- Original Message -----

From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, 3 October, 2014 2:05:33 PM
Subject: Re: Starting a new

It would be really cool if your translations made it into the project!

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 10/3/2014 11:50 AM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:

Pierre Smits

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by Adrian Crum-3

Related on the subject of translations:
http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/ibzluiw6qqyph6cm

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Adrian Crum <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> It would be really cool if your translations made it into the project!
>
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
>
> On 10/3/2014 11:50 AM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:
>
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> We've been using the addon manager for a while quite a while. I have
>> translated most of ofbiz to Arabic using the DOP patches which are easily
>> upgradable to newer versions.
>>
>> We do not have access to the repository source code repository anymore
>> for some reason, I only get the executables in sourceforge.
>>
>> Thank you for the tips, I will take them into consideration in our next
>> version upgrade! We will start to depend more on trunk to also be more
>> useful and contributing to the project.
>>
>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: Friday, 3 October, 2014 12:27:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: Starting a new
>>
>>
>> Le 02/10/2014 23:14, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> On the same topic, would it be a bad/good practice to pull on a certain
>>> revision from trunk, stabilize it, ship to customer and do an upgrade
>>> once
>>> in like every six months or so?
>>>
>>
>> This is what I kinda do. But I update every week and at some point I
>> freeze and backport the important bug fixes myself. Of course this means to
>> stay
>> tuned.
>>
>> I am considering this model by committing
>>> this certain revision into git and branching out on my own work and then
>>> merge whatever i pull from subversion. This way we can stay bleeding edge
>>> while staying relatively stable. This can also be done in combination
>>> with
>>> the ofbiz addon manager which we found to be very handy.
>>>
>>
>> Ha interesting, for how long are you using the ofbiz addon manage? Did
>> you reuse existing addons or simply created your own?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> Any thoughts on that?
>>>
>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>> On Oct 2, 2014 11:59 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I use trunk myself, but like Adrian I'd generally recommend the lastest
>>>> release branch.
>>>> The trunk is really bleeding edge and the only advantage I have using it
>>>> is, since I'm a committer, I can interact with it and add new features I
>>>> use in custom projects more easily.
>>>> Anyway if ever you need a new feature from the trunk it's often easy to
>>>> simply merge it from the trunk...
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> Le 02/10/2014 21:57, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I recommend always deploying from the latest release branch. Right now
>>>>> that is 13.07.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/2/2014 6:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>>>>>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Forrest
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>

Adrian Crum-3

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by taher

That process could be automated using the UtilProperties class in OFBiz.
It could go something like this:

for each Arabic label file
load matching OFBiz label file
for each Arabic label
update OFBiz label
store OFBiz label file

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 10/3/2014 12:14 PM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
>
> We would love to push those changes once we start depending more on trunk. I remember from earlier JIRAs we made that can only apply translations to trunk and that I probably cannot create one massive patch, so I still have to break the addon into mutiple patches to be accepted.
>
> Nevertheless, we definitely would love to contribute the translations as soon as we get some clear-headed time to do so.
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Friday, 3 October, 2014 2:05:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Starting a new
>
> It would be really cool if your translations made it into the project!
>
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
>
> On 10/3/2014 11:50 AM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> We've been using the addon manager for a while quite a while. I have translated most of ofbiz to Arabic using the DOP patches which are easily upgradable to newer versions.
>>
>> We do not have access to the repository source code repository anymore for some reason, I only get the executables in sourceforge.
>>
>> Thank you for the tips, I will take them into consideration in our next version upgrade! We will start to depend more on trunk to also be more useful and contributing to the project.
>>
>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: Friday, 3 October, 2014 12:27:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: Starting a new
>>
>>
>> Le 02/10/2014 23:14, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> On the same topic, would it be a bad/good practice to pull on a certain
>>> revision from trunk, stabilize it, ship to customer and do an upgrade once
>>> in like every six months or so?
>>
>> This is what I kinda do. But I update every week and at some point I freeze and backport the important bug fixes myself. Of course this means to stay
>> tuned.
>>
>>> I am considering this model by committing
>>> this certain revision into git and branching out on my own work and then
>>> merge whatever i pull from subversion. This way we can stay bleeding edge
>>> while staying relatively stable. This can also be done in combination with
>>> the ofbiz addon manager which we found to be very handy.
>>
>> Ha interesting, for how long are you using the ofbiz addon manage? Did you reuse existing addons or simply created your own?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>> Any thoughts on that?
>>>
>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>> On Oct 2, 2014 11:59 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use trunk myself, but like Adrian I'd generally recommend the lastest
>>>> release branch.
>>>> The trunk is really bleeding edge and the only advantage I have using it
>>>> is, since I'm a committer, I can interact with it and add new features I
>>>> use in custom projects more easily.
>>>> Anyway if ever you need a new feature from the trunk it's often easy to
>>>> simply merge it from the trunk...
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> Le 02/10/2014 21:57, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> I recommend always deploying from the latest release branch. Right now
>>>>> that is 13.07.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/2/2014 6:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>>>>>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Forrest
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Nicolas Malin-2

Re: Starting a new

In reply to this post by taher

Hi Taher

Le 03/10/2014 12:50, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> Hi Jacques,
>
> We've been using the addon manager for a while quite a while. I have translated most of ofbiz to Arabic using the DOP patches which are easily upgradable to newer versions.
For help other, a Dop is a semantic xml patch managed by the addon manager.
> We do not have access to the repository source code repository anymore for some reason, I only get the executables in sourceforge.
Your case is really interesting. I recommand you to give your opinion
and idea to this thread http://markmail.org/message/goxbqcgurpoy2yfp ,
don't neglect your feedback ! It help the community to found the better
solution to improve OFBiz ;)

Else, the best way to contribute is open an issue with diff patch. But I
know that it's hard for big translation so don't hesitate to propose
your dop file, I will convert it for other commiter.

Nicolas

>
> Thank you for the tips, I will take them into consideration in our next version upgrade! We will start to depend more on trunk to also be more useful and contributing to the project.
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Friday, 3 October, 2014 12:27:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Starting a new
>
>
> Le 02/10/2014 23:14, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> On the same topic, would it be a bad/good practice to pull on a certain
>> revision from trunk, stabilize it, ship to customer and do an upgrade once
>> in like every six months or so?
> This is what I kinda do. But I update every week and at some point I freeze and backport the important bug fixes myself. Of course this means to stay
> tuned.
>
>> I am considering this model by committing
>> this certain revision into git and branching out on my own work and then
>> merge whatever i pull from subversion. This way we can stay bleeding edge
>> while staying relatively stable. This can also be done in combination with
>> the ofbiz addon manager which we found to be very handy.
> Ha interesting, for how long are you using the ofbiz addon manage? Did you reuse existing addons or simply created your own?
>
> Jacques
>
>> Any thoughts on that?
>>
>> Taher Alkhateeb
>> On Oct 2, 2014 11:59 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I use trunk myself, but like Adrian I'd generally recommend the lastest
>>> release branch.
>>> The trunk is really bleeding edge and the only advantage I have using it
>>> is, since I'm a committer, I can interact with it and add new features I
>>> use in custom projects more easily.
>>> Anyway if ever you need a new feature from the trunk it's often easy to
>>> simply merge it from the trunk...
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> Le 02/10/2014 21:57, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I recommend always deploying from the latest release branch. Right now
>>>> that is 13.07.
>>>>
>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>
>>>> On 10/2/2014 6:50 PM, Forrest Rae wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> With a new deployment, starting from scratch, would you go with 12.04,
>>>>> wait for 13.07, or just use the trunk?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Forrest
>>>>>
>>>>>
>