Users - Party and Timezones

[cjhowe]

I think this does bring up two issues.  The first
being that the server should be storing and
determining times in UTC, while displaying them in the
local time of the client browser.  I know there are
scripts available to do this through javascript.  The
second issue is making more use of the
WebUserPreference Entity.  I don't believe the
WebUserPreference is currently being used for anything
or has been developed into anything yet.  There is a
slight issue with it's primary key as using
UserLoginId, partyId, and webPreferenceTypeId is the
same as using UserLoginId and webPreferenceTypeId
since multiple partyIds cannot have the same
UserLoginId.  This entity would also require a value
field to be of any use in settings.  The only reason
why I bring up the issue of webUserPreference is that
you could store a userPreference override of detecting
the local browser time.  Not to mention development
would help bolster use in things like userLogin css
overrides.  But again, it requires a value field to be
of any use.

===============David Kunkel wrote:

CJ

I'm guessing you mean for the time zone data to mostly
to be used in
scheduling... For example:

Have a local representation of the time the company
planned the video
conference.

See the local time that an e-mail arrived.

Can you expand on any other uses you've considered?

Is there any way this information could be
automatically obtained from
the browser during the session, rather than something
that would require
specifically setting. If so, would we really want it
added to the
datamodel?

Thanks



On Sun, 2006-01-22 at 21:13 +0000, Charles Johnson
wrote:
> Perhaps i shouldn't have volunteered that suggestion
as i'm not very
> familiar with the ER yet. The reason i made it is
that a Person can only
> be unitary and other entities may span multiple time
zones.
>
> CJ
>
> David E. Jones wrote:
>
> >Why Person? This would imply that the timezone
doesn't apply to other types of parties, for example
the party group type. Is that what is intended? If so,
why?
> >
> >-David
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >   >From: "Charles Johnson"<cj at
cehjohnson.uklinux.net>
> >   >Sent: 1/22/06 4:29:45 AM
> >   >To: "OFBiz Users / Usage Discussion"<users at
lists.ofbiz.org>
> >   >Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Party and
Timezones
> >   >
> >   >What about joining Person to timezone?
> >   >
> >   >CJ
> >   >
> >   >David E. Jones wrote:
> >   >
> >   >>
> >   >> No, I think Party would actually be better
than UserLogin. From a
> >   >> modeling perspective and considering the
intent of the different
> >   >> entities UserLogin doesn't make much sense,
unless I really mis-
> >   >> understand what you intend to use this for
and what it would mean.
> >   >> The UserLogin entity is part of the security
data model and the only
> >   >> reasons a Party would have multiple UserLogin
records would be for
> >   >> different permission sets or to change the
UserLogin but still
> >   >> reserve the old one for tracking/auditing
purposes and such.
> >   >>
> >   >> -David
> >   >>
> >   >>
> >   >> On Jan 21, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Vinay Agarwal
wrote:
> >   >>
> >   >>> On second thought, it may be better to
associate timezone with a
> >   >>> UserLogin
> >   >>> considering a party may have users in
different locations. This of
> >   >>> course,
> >   >>> assumes that a single login is used by a
single user who would have a
> >   >>> preferred timezone. Would this be better
than assigning it to a party?
> >   >>>
> >   >>> Regards,
> >   >>> Vinay Agarwal
> >   >>>
> >   >>> -----Original Message-----
> >   >>> From: users-bounces at lists.ofbiz.org
[mailto:users-
> >   >>> bounces at lists.ofbiz.org]
> >   >>> On Behalf Of David E. Jones
> >   >>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:11 PM
> >   >>> To: OFBiz Users / Usage Discussion
> >   >>> Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Party and
Timezones
> >   >>>
> >   >>>
> >   >>> This is a tricky one since it may be correct
to say that a given
> >   >>> Party corresponds to a single time zone. On
the other hand, I guess
> >   >>> it depends on what you want to do with it...
it may be that having
> >   >>> more than one time zone would mess up what
you are trying to do. In
> >   >>> general the time zone probably goes along
best with the Postal
> >   >>> Address, or perhaps even the Telecom Number.
If you need a single
> >   >>> field, or call it a "preferredTimeZone" or
something along those
> >   >>> lines to make it clear that it isn't
supposed to be the only one,
> >   >>> then putting it right on the Party entity is
not a bad way to go.
> >   >>>
> >   >>> -David
> >   >>>
> >   >>>
> >   >>> On Jan 20, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Vinay Agarwal
wrote:
> >   >>>
> >   >>>> Hello,
> >   >>>>
> >   >>>> My application needs timezone setting for
each party. I haven't
> >   >>>> been able to
> >   >>>> find any timezone setting for the party--is
there one? If not,
> >   >>>> what's the
> >   >>>> preferred way for adding it? I assume
modifying the party entity is
> >   >>>> NOT the
> >   >>>> preferred way. Any suggestions?
> >   >>>>
> >   >>>> Regards,
> >   >>>> Vinay Agarwal
> >   >>>>
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