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I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of Google Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather info on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages and give insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. Regards, James Yong |
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Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only there. Jacques Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : > Hi, > > I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of Google > Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather info > on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages and give > insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. > > Regards, > James Yong > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html > Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > |
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I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics script addition, but
as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to discuss this here before Jacques Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > Hi James, > > Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only there. > > Jacques > > > Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of Google >> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather info >> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages and give >> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >> >> Regards, >> James Yong >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > |
Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information like
ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need any legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from specialists in that area? The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our objective or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per page? Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we create a frequency report? I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do and how will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the trouble of implementing this feature. [1] https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/ On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> wrote: > I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics > script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to discuss > this here before > > Jacques > > > Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > >> Hi James, >> >> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only there. >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather >>> info >>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages and >>> give >>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>> >>> Regards, >>> James Yong >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >> >> > |
Hi Taher, all,
inline... Am 18.03.17 um 11:27 schrieb Taher Alkhateeb: > Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information like > ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need any > legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from > specialists in that area? We definetely need a disclaimer clearly stating what tracking mechanisms are used. Additionally, we need to provide a mechanism for the user to opt-out of the tracking. IPs must be anonymized by setting anonymizeIp to true. This are (at least) some of the data privacy protection we have to follow here in Germany. I don't know how this is regulated in other countries. > > The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our objective > or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per page? > Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we create > a frequency report? > > I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do and how > will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the trouble > of implementing this feature. Right, before we take any technical action we should have a common understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to get out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. Regards, Michael > > [1] > https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/ > > On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to discuss >> this here before >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> >>> Hi James, >>> >>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only there. >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather >>>> info >>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages and >>>> give >>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> James Yong >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> >>> smime.p7s (5K) Download Attachment |
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Hi,
According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of Service at https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a Privacy Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect anonymous data. We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser add-on" at https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to participate or be tracked. Regards, James Yong
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The privacy notice at https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html may be useful. Thanks, James Yong
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Maybe all suggestions can/will be taken into consideration in the plan of
our new website that Sharan is working on. Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Taher, all, > > inline... > > Am 18.03.17 um 11:27 schrieb Taher Alkhateeb: > >> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information >> like >> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need any >> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from >> specialists in that area? >> > We definetely need a disclaimer clearly stating what tracking mechanisms > are used. > Additionally, we need to provide a mechanism for the user to opt-out of > the tracking. > IPs must be anonymized by setting anonymizeIp to true. > > This are (at least) some of the data privacy protection we have to follow > here in Germany. I don't know how this is regulated in other countries. > >> >> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >> objective >> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per page? >> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we create >> a frequency report? >> >> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do and >> how >> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >> trouble >> of implementing this feature. >> > Right, before we take any technical action we should have a common > understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to > get out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If > there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held > responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. > > Regards, > Michael > > > >> [1] >> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/ >> >> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>> discuss >>> this here before >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> >>> Hi James, >>>> >>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only >>>> there. >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather >>>>> info >>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages and >>>>> give >>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> James Yong >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > > |
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Yes indeed, good idea Pierre
Jacques Le 18/03/2017 à 14:06, Pierre Smits a écrit : > Maybe all suggestions can/will be taken into consideration in the plan of > our new website that Sharan is working on. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > OFBiz based solutions & services > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Michael Brohl <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> Hi Taher, all, >> >> inline... >> >> Am 18.03.17 um 11:27 schrieb Taher Alkhateeb: >> >>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information >>> like >>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need any >>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from >>> specialists in that area? >>> >> We definetely need a disclaimer clearly stating what tracking mechanisms >> are used. >> Additionally, we need to provide a mechanism for the user to opt-out of >> the tracking. >> IPs must be anonymized by setting anonymizeIp to true. >> >> This are (at least) some of the data privacy protection we have to follow >> here in Germany. I don't know how this is regulated in other countries. >> >>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>> objective >>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per page? >>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we create >>> a frequency report? >>> >>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do and >>> how >>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >>> trouble >>> of implementing this feature. >>> >> Right, before we take any technical action we should have a common >> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to >> get out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If >> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held >> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. >> >> Regards, >> Michael >> >> >> >>> [1] >>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/ >>> >>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>>> discuss >>>> this here before >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>> >>>> Hi James, >>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only >>>>> there. >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather >>>>>> info >>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages and >>>>>> give >>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> James Yong >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> |
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Don't know what the website is about. But looking forward to it.
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Thanks James,
I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15970517 Jacques Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : > Hi, > > According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of Service at > https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a Privacy > Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect > anonymous data. > > We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser add-on" at > https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to participate > or be tracked. > > Regards, > James Yong > > > taher wrote >> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information >> like >> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need any >> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from >> specialists in that area? >> >> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >> objective >> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per page? >> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we create >> a frequency report? >> >> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do and >> how >> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >> trouble >> of implementing this feature. >> >> [1] >> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/ >> >> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >> jacques.le.roux@ >> > >> wrote: >> >>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>> discuss >>> this here before >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> >>>> Hi James, >>>> >>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only >>>> there. >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather >>>>> info >>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages and >>>>> give >>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> James Yong >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html > Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > |
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So it's OK,
Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? Thanks Jacques Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > Thanks James, > > I posted your comment at > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15970517 > > Jacques > > > Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of Service at >> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a Privacy >> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect >> anonymous data. >> >> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser add-on" at >> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to participate >> or be tracked. >> >> Regards, >> James Yong >> >> >> taher wrote >>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information >>> like >>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need any >>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from >>> specialists in that area? >>> >>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>> objective >>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per page? >>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we create >>> a frequency report? >>> >>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do and >>> how >>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >>> trouble >>> of implementing this feature. >>> >>> [1] >>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/ >>> >>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>> jacques.le.roux@ >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>>> discuss >>>> this here before >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Hi James, >>>>> >>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only >>>>> there. >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather >>>>>> info >>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages and >>>>>> give >>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> James Yong >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > |
It seems we need to:
- refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not sufficient - our own) - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie policies). I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out browser add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest of our project. Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote: > So it's OK, > > Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? > > Thanks > > Jacques > > > > Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > >> Thanks James, >> >> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>> Service at >>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a >>> Privacy >>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect >>> anonymous data. >>> >>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>> add-on" at >>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>> participate >>> or be tracked. >>> >>> Regards, >>> James Yong >>> >>> >>> taher wrote >>> >>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information >>>> like >>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need >>>> any >>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from >>>> specialists in that area? >>>> >>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>>> objective >>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per >>>> page? >>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we >>>> create >>>> a frequency report? >>>> >>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do and >>>> how >>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >>>> trouble >>>> of implementing this feature. >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>> >>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>>>> discuss >>>>> this here before >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Hi James, >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only >>>>>> there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather >>>>>>> info >>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> give >>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >> >> > |
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Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit :
> It seems we need to: > > - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not sufficient - > our own) > - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie policies). > > I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out browser > add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest of > our project. Just a feeling, or? Jacques > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > OFBiz based solutions & services > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> So it's OK, >> >> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> >> >> >> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> >>> Thanks James, >>> >>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>> Service at >>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a >>>> Privacy >>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect >>>> anonymous data. >>>> >>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>> add-on" at >>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>> participate >>>> or be tracked. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> James Yong >>>> >>>> >>>> taher wrote >>>> >>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information >>>>> like >>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need >>>>> any >>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from >>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>> >>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>>>> objective >>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per >>>>> page? >>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we >>>>> create >>>>> a frequency report? >>>>> >>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do and >>>>> how >>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >>>>> trouble >>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>>>>> discuss >>>>>> this here before >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only >>>>>>> there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to gather >>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> >>> |
I have put it nicely, Jacques.
Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote: > Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit : > >> It seems we need to: >> >> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not sufficient - >> our own) >> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie policies). >> >> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out browser >> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest of >> our project. >> > > Just a feeling, or? > > Jacques > > >> Best regards, >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >> >> OFBiz based solutions & services >> >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> >> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >> [hidden email]> wrote: >> >> So it's OK, >>> >>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>> >>> Thanks James, >>>> >>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>>> Service at >>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a >>>>> Privacy >>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect >>>>> anonymous data. >>>>> >>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>> add-on" at >>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>> participate >>>>> or be tracked. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> James Yong >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> taher wrote >>>>> >>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information >>>>>> like >>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need >>>>>> any >>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from >>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>> >>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>>>>> objective >>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per >>>>>> page? >>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we >>>>>> create >>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do >>>>>> and >>>>>> how >>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >>>>>> trouble >>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only >>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to >>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > |
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Thanks Jacques Le 17/04/2017 à 16:18, Pierre Smits a écrit : > I have put it nicely, Jacques. > > Pierre Smits > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > OFBiz based solutions & services > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > [hidden email]> wrote: > >> Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit : >> >>> It seems we need to: >>> >>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not sufficient - >>> our own) >>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie policies). >>> >>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out browser >>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest of >>> our project. >>> >> Just a feeling, or? >> >> Jacques >> >> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>> >>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>> >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> So it's OK, >>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>> >>>> Thanks James, >>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>>>> Service at >>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a >>>>>> Privacy >>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect >>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>> >>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>> participate >>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> James Yong >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>> >>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from >>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>>>>>> objective >>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per >>>>>>> page? >>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we >>>>>>> create >>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> how >>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only >>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to >>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> |
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http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy Policy page. ") So? Jacques Le 17/04/2017 à 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > What are others opinions? > > Thanks > > Jacques > > > Le 17/04/2017 à 16:18, Pierre Smits a écrit : >> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >> OFBiz based solutions & services >> >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> >> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >> [hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>> >>>> It seems we need to: >>>> >>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not sufficient - >>>> our own) >>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie policies). >>>> >>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest of >>>> our project. >>>> >>> Just a feeling, or? >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Pierre Smits >>>> >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>> >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>> >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> So it's OK, >>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a >>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect >>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>> participate >>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from >>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per >>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we >>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics >>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only >>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of >>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to >>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > |
I don't see a problem there.
Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote: > OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these > > http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html > > http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by a > link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy > Policy page. ") > > So? > > Jacques > > > > Le 17/04/2017 à 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : > >> What are others opinions? >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 17/04/2017 à 16:18, Pierre Smits a écrit : >> >>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>> >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>> >>>> It seems we need to: >>>>> >>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not >>>>> sufficient - >>>>> our own) >>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie >>>>> policies). >>>>> >>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out >>>>> browser >>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest >>>>> of >>>>> our project. >>>>> >>>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>> >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>> >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>> >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So it's OK, >>>>> >>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>> >>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a >>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect >>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we >>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per >>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we >>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the >>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the >>>>>>>>>> analytics >>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to >>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" >>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and >>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to >>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki >>>>>>>>>>>> pages >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited >>>>>>>>>>>> manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> > |
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Regards, James Yong On 2017-04-27 16:10 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote: > OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these > > http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html > > http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy Policy > page. ") > > So? > > Jacques > > > Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > > What are others opinions? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jacques > > > > > > Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit : > >> I have put it nicely, Jacques. > >> > >> Pierre Smits > >> > >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > >> OFBiz based solutions & services > >> > >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > >> [hidden email]> wrote: > >> > >>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit : > >>> > >>>> It seems we need to: > >>>> > >>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not sufficient - > >>>> our own) > >>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie policies). > >>>> > >>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out browser > >>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest of > >>>> our project. > >>>> > >>> Just a feeling, or? > >>> > >>> Jacques > >>> > >>> > >>>> Best regards, > >>>> > >>>> Pierre Smits > >>>> > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > >>>> > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services > >>>> > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < > >>>> [hidden email]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> So it's OK, > >>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> Jacques > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks James, > >>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira > >>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. > >>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- > >>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit : > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of > >>>>>>> Service at > >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a > >>>>>>> Privacy > >>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect > >>>>>>> anonymous data. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser > >>>>>>> add-on" at > >>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to > >>>>>>> participate > >>>>>>> or be tracked. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> James Yong > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> taher wrote > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user information > >>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we need > >>>>>>>> any > >>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input from > >>>>>>>> specialists in that area? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our > >>>>>>>> objective > >>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count per > >>>>>>>> page? > >>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do we > >>>>>>>> create > >>>>>>>> a frequency report? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to do > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to the > >>>>>>>> trouble > >>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection > >>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < > >>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the analytics > >>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need to > >>>>>>>>> discuss > >>>>>>>>> this here before > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit : > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi James, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no spam" > >>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and only > >>>>>>>>>> there. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Jacques > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit : > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the use of > >>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to > >>>>>>>>>>> gather > >>>>>>>>>>> info > >>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki pages > >>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>> give > >>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited manpower. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>> James Yong > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. > >>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. > >>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html > >>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > > > > |
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Hi Jacques,
as I have already mentioned [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to get out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking, if we have a plan. Regards, Michael Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: > OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these > > http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html > > http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by > a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our > Privacy Policy page. ") > > So? > > Jacques > > > Le 17/04/2017 à 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> What are others opinions? >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 17/04/2017 à 16:18, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>> >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>> >>>>> It seems we need to: >>>>> >>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not >>>>> sufficient - >>>>> our own) >>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie >>>>> policies). >>>>> >>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out >>>>> browser >>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best >>>>> interest of >>>>> our project. >>>>> >>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>> >>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>> >>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>> >>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>> [hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So it's OK, >>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a >>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to >>>>>>>> collect >>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do >>>>>>>>> we need >>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need >>>>>>>>> input from >>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our >>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit >>>>>>>>> count per >>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? >>>>>>>>> Do we >>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want >>>>>>>>> to do >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going >>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the >>>>>>>>>> analytics >>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we >>>>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no >>>>>>>>>>> spam" >>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages >>>>>>>>>>> and only >>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest >>>>>>>>>>>> the use of >>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to >>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed >>>>>>>>>>>> wiki pages >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited >>>>>>>>>>>> manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >> > smime.p7s (5K) Download Attachment |
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