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Hi Ioannis,
I will use this address from now on. Eric www.olagos.eu Olagos bvba Heidi Dehaes Kerkstraat 34 2570 Duffel Belgium Tel. : 015/31 53 04 GSM : 0485/22 35 80 E-mail : [hidden email] http://www.olagos.eu http://www.olagos.com http://www.olagos.be http://www.olagos.nl 2014-03-10 16:47 GMT+01:00 <[hidden email]>: > Hi , > > I have the same aim to add such functionality in my ecommerce store too. > > For this I am willing to devote time and effort also. > > I am very interested to participate in the development. > > I was 5 years project manager but since 6 months I am developing also in > java (Spring) and because I started to implement ofbiz in 2008 already I > learned already a lot of the software and the software architecture. So I > have often ideas what existing functionalities exist in ofbiz and where to > find the java code . Some parts I know better than other parts. > > But I think it is a good idea to work together. > > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: giannisapi [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:34 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: RE: Vendor Management > > Hi Eric, > > I am not in a particular rush or something. I am investigating this for a > business of mine. It is a functionality that I would much like to have in > my > ecommerce store. For this I am willing to devote time and effort. Would you > be interested in this idea too? > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Vendor-Management-tp164262p4649007.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > |
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To complete Pierre's explanation (I hope not to confuse things)
I always thought that vendors as defined at https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditVendorProduct?productId=GZ-1000 and https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ap/control/findVendors are of the external category, like 3rd parties on Amazon. From https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1893 those are different from suppliers, so I can see only that. But I never used this functionality, nor know what is really implemented for that, apart handling parties (I think nothing else). So the data model is ready and some around (CRUD and find services mostly). But you have to do the rest (you may have a vendor per store if you have multi-stores or also multi-vendors per store) Note that there are also drop shipment examples available OOTB. I see them related somehow... Jacques Le 10/03/2014 15:26, Pierre Smits a écrit : > Ioannis, > > First of all, ensure that you have your (business) definitions straight and > that the parties you communicate with understand and share your definitions. > > The noun Vendor can have (and probably will have) different meanings to > different persons depending on the domain the work in/come from. According > to investopedia it can be both a person or a business entity. And that (as > should be regarded as obvious) as wel an internal party as an external > entity. > > >From your descriptions I gathered that it is a person executing a business > process, but whether he is part of your organisation or not I could not > determine. > > If he is part of your organisation, he could be regarded as internal sales, > sales representative, sales back office clerk, or any other role you have > defined in your organisation. If he is external, is he then a sales > representative working on commission basis or a reseller (who buys and > sells for own risk and profit). > > Determining (and communicating) such aspects up front enables your peers to > comprehend the challenge/opportunity to the fullest and helps them to help > you in finding the answer and/or solution. > > Regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > |
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Yes, and drop shipment party is defined in Ofbiz as a "SUPPLIER" if I am right .
So what is the real difference with a VENDOR then. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Jacques Le Roux [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:12 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Vendor Management To complete Pierre's explanation (I hope not to confuse things) I always thought that vendors as defined at https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditVendorProduct?productId=GZ-1000 and https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ap/control/findVendors are of the external category, like 3rd parties on Amazon. From https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1893 those are different from suppliers, so I can see only that. But I never used this functionality, nor know what is really implemented for that, apart handling parties (I think nothing else). So the data model is ready and some around (CRUD and find services mostly). But you have to do the rest (you may have a vendor per store if you have multi-stores or also multi-vendors per store) Note that there are also drop shipment examples available OOTB. I see them related somehow... Jacques Le 10/03/2014 15:26, Pierre Smits a écrit : > Ioannis, > > First of all, ensure that you have your (business) definitions straight and > that the parties you communicate with understand and share your definitions. > > The noun Vendor can have (and probably will have) different meanings to > different persons depending on the domain the work in/come from. According > to investopedia it can be both a person or a business entity. And that (as > should be regarded as obvious) as wel an internal party as an external > entity. > > >From your descriptions I gathered that it is a person executing a business > process, but whether he is part of your organisation or not I could not > determine. > > If he is part of your organisation, he could be regarded as internal sales, > sales representative, sales back office clerk, or any other role you have > defined in your organisation. If he is external, is he then a sales > representative working on commission basis or a reseller (who buys and > sells for own risk and profit). > > Determining (and communicating) such aspects up front enables your peers to > comprehend the challenge/opportunity to the fullest and helps them to help > you in finding the answer and/or solution. > > Regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > |
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A supplier is different than a vendor. A supplier sells you goods or
services. A vendor sells goods or services through your marketplace. Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 3/10/2014 9:14 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Yes, and drop shipment party is defined in Ofbiz as a "SUPPLIER" if I am right . > > So what is the real difference with a VENDOR then. > > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacques Le Roux [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:12 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Vendor Management > > To complete Pierre's explanation (I hope not to confuse things) > > I always thought that vendors as defined at > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditVendorProduct?productId=GZ-1000 > and > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ap/control/findVendors > are of the external category, like 3rd parties on Amazon. From https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1893 those are different from suppliers, so > I can see only that. > > But I never used this functionality, nor know what is really implemented for that, apart handling parties (I think nothing else). > So the data model is ready and some around (CRUD and find services mostly). > But you have to do the rest (you may have a vendor per store if you have multi-stores or also multi-vendors per store) > > Note that there are also drop shipment examples available OOTB. I see them related somehow... > > Jacques > > Le 10/03/2014 15:26, Pierre Smits a écrit : >> Ioannis, >> >> First of all, ensure that you have your (business) definitions straight and >> that the parties you communicate with understand and share your definitions. >> >> The noun Vendor can have (and probably will have) different meanings to >> different persons depending on the domain the work in/come from. According >> to investopedia it can be both a person or a business entity. And that (as >> should be regarded as obvious) as wel an internal party as an external >> entity. >> >> >From your descriptions I gathered that it is a person executing a business >> process, but whether he is part of your organisation or not I could not >> determine. >> >> If he is part of your organisation, he could be regarded as internal sales, >> sales representative, sales back office clerk, or any other role you have >> defined in your organisation. If he is external, is he then a sales >> representative working on commission basis or a reseller (who buys and >> sells for own risk and profit). >> >> Determining (and communicating) such aspects up front enables your peers to >> comprehend the challenge/opportunity to the fullest and helps them to help >> you in finding the answer and/or solution. >> >> Regards, >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> Based Manufacturing, Professional >> Services and Retail & Trade >> http://www.orrtiz.com >> |
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I think a SUPPLIER with drop shipment is sent a purchase invoice before
products can be delivered immediately to the customer. A VENDOR has products on the ecommerce store from within a separate category dedicated to the vendor. At first instance these products can be added by the ecommerce shop owner. But it needs a separate inventory management for that specific category and this inventory information being made available for the vendor also. Are these products then being paid by the customer to the the ecommerce owner. How is the VENDOR then paid? With a commission invoice? Perhaps commission invoices need to be generated automatically. Who will do the shipment? Where is the inventory ? At the VENDOR 's premises? Then the shipment should be done by the VENDOR. Will the shipment management from ofbiz then have a dedicated part for the vendor also? Some ideas to think about. Regards, Eric Olagos bvba Heidi Dehaes Kerkstraat 34 2570 Duffel Belgium Tel. : 015/31 53 04 GSM : 0485/22 35 80 E-mail : [hidden email] http://www.olagos.eu http://www.olagos.com http://www.olagos.be http://www.olagos.nl 2014-03-10 17:14 GMT+01:00 <[hidden email]>: > Yes, and drop shipment party is defined in Ofbiz as a "SUPPLIER" if I am > right . > > So what is the real difference with a VENDOR then. > > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacques Le Roux [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:12 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: Vendor Management > > To complete Pierre's explanation (I hope not to confuse things) > > I always thought that vendors as defined at > > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditVendorProduct?productId=GZ-1000 > and > https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ap/control/findVendors > are of the external category, like 3rd parties on Amazon. From > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1893 those are different from > suppliers, so > I can see only that. > > But I never used this functionality, nor know what is really implemented > for that, apart handling parties (I think nothing else). > So the data model is ready and some around (CRUD and find services mostly). > But you have to do the rest (you may have a vendor per store if you have > multi-stores or also multi-vendors per store) > > Note that there are also drop shipment examples available OOTB. I see them > related somehow... > > Jacques > > Le 10/03/2014 15:26, Pierre Smits a écrit : > > Ioannis, > > > > First of all, ensure that you have your (business) definitions straight > and > > that the parties you communicate with understand and share your > definitions. > > > > The noun Vendor can have (and probably will have) different meanings to > > different persons depending on the domain the work in/come from. > According > > to investopedia it can be both a person or a business entity. And that > (as > > should be regarded as obvious) as wel an internal party as an external > > entity. > > > > >From your descriptions I gathered that it is a person executing a > business > > process, but whether he is part of your organisation or not I could not > > determine. > > > > If he is part of your organisation, he could be regarded as internal > sales, > > sales representative, sales back office clerk, or any other role you have > > defined in your organisation. If he is external, is he then a sales > > representative working on commission basis or a reseller (who buys and > > sells for own risk and profit). > > > > Determining (and communicating) such aspects up front enables your peers > to > > comprehend the challenge/opportunity to the fullest and helps them to > help > > you in finding the answer and/or solution. > > > > Regards, > > > > Pierre Smits > > > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > > Based Manufacturing, Professional > > Services and Retail & Trade > > http://www.orrtiz.com > > > |
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A VENDOR registration form is also needed.
Eric Olagos bvba Heidi Dehaes Kerkstraat 34 2570 Duffel Belgium Tel. : 015/31 53 04 GSM : 0485/22 35 80 E-mail : [hidden email] http://www.olagos.eu http://www.olagos.com http://www.olagos.be http://www.olagos.nl 2014-03-10 17:40 GMT+01:00 Heidi Dehaes <[hidden email]>: > I think a SUPPLIER with drop shipment is sent a purchase invoice before > products can be delivered immediately to the customer. > > A VENDOR has products on the ecommerce store from within a separate > category dedicated to the vendor. At first instance these products can be > added by the ecommerce shop owner. But it needs a separate inventory > management for that specific category and this inventory information being > made available for the vendor also. > > Are these products then being paid by the customer to the the ecommerce > owner. > > How is the VENDOR then paid? With a commission invoice? Perhaps commission > invoices need to be generated automatically. > > Who will do the shipment? Where is the inventory ? At the VENDOR 's > premises? Then the shipment should be done by the VENDOR. Will the shipment > management from ofbiz then have a dedicated part for the vendor also? > > Some ideas to think about. > > Regards, > Eric > > > > > Olagos bvba > Heidi Dehaes > Kerkstraat 34 > 2570 Duffel > Belgium > Tel. : 015/31 53 04 > GSM : 0485/22 35 80 > E-mail : [hidden email] > http://www.olagos.eu > http://www.olagos.com > http://www.olagos.be > http://www.olagos.nl > > > > > 2014-03-10 17:14 GMT+01:00 <[hidden email]>: > > Yes, and drop shipment party is defined in Ofbiz as a "SUPPLIER" if I am >> right . >> >> So what is the real difference with a VENDOR then. >> >> Eric >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jacques Le Roux [mailto:[hidden email]] >> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:12 PM >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: Vendor Management >> >> To complete Pierre's explanation (I hope not to confuse things) >> >> I always thought that vendors as defined at >> >> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditVendorProduct?productId=GZ-1000 >> and >> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ap/control/findVendors >> are of the external category, like 3rd parties on Amazon. From >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1893 those are different >> from suppliers, so >> I can see only that. >> >> But I never used this functionality, nor know what is really implemented >> for that, apart handling parties (I think nothing else). >> So the data model is ready and some around (CRUD and find services >> mostly). >> But you have to do the rest (you may have a vendor per store if you have >> multi-stores or also multi-vendors per store) >> >> Note that there are also drop shipment examples available OOTB. I see >> them related somehow... >> >> Jacques >> >> Le 10/03/2014 15:26, Pierre Smits a écrit : >> > Ioannis, >> > >> > First of all, ensure that you have your (business) definitions straight >> and >> > that the parties you communicate with understand and share your >> definitions. >> > >> > The noun Vendor can have (and probably will have) different meanings to >> > different persons depending on the domain the work in/come from. >> According >> > to investopedia it can be both a person or a business entity. And that >> (as >> > should be regarded as obvious) as wel an internal party as an external >> > entity. >> > >> > >From your descriptions I gathered that it is a person executing a >> business >> > process, but whether he is part of your organisation or not I could not >> > determine. >> > >> > If he is part of your organisation, he could be regarded as internal >> sales, >> > sales representative, sales back office clerk, or any other role you >> have >> > defined in your organisation. If he is external, is he then a sales >> > representative working on commission basis or a reseller (who buys and >> > sells for own risk and profit). >> > >> > Determining (and communicating) such aspects up front enables your >> peers to >> > comprehend the challenge/opportunity to the fullest and helps them to >> help >> > you in finding the answer and/or solution. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Pierre Smits >> > >> > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >> > Services & Solutions for Cloud- >> > Based Manufacturing, Professional >> > Services and Retail & Trade >> > http://www.orrtiz.com >> > >> > > |
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Eric,
To be correct: A drop-shipment supplier must be send a purchase order to ensure that he is legally covered. Upon delivery to your customer he will send the invoice to you. All the rest of your posting has to with the aspect of legal ownership and obligations. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com |
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If anyone has acces / uses a vendor platform on amazon, he can perhaps write down a limited business analysis of such a vendor implementation?
Eric Verzonden van mijn HTC ----- Reply message ----- Van: "giannisapi" <[hidden email]> Datum: ma, mrt. 10, 2014 16:34 Onderwerp: Vendor Management Aan: <[hidden email]> Hi Eric, I am not in a particular rush or something. I am investigating this for a business of mine. It is a functionality that I would much like to have in my ecommerce store. For this I am willing to devote time and effort. Would you be interested in this idea too? -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Vendor-Management-tp164262p4649007.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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Ok thanks pierre
Verzonden van mijn HTC ----- Reply message ----- Van: "Pierre Smits" <[hidden email]> Datum: ma, mrt. 10, 2014 18:35 Onderwerp: Vendor Management Aan: <[hidden email]> Eric, To be correct: A drop-shipment supplier must be send a purchase order to ensure that he is legally covered. Upon delivery to your customer he will send the invoice to you. All the rest of your posting has to with the aspect of legal ownership and obligations. Regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com |
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Dear Adrian,
Could you explain to me a little further the already implemented sollution of Shopping Mall in ofbiz? I am asking so I can catch up faster because I am fairly new to ofbiz. Also if you have any internet links, books etc talking about this on ofbiz please do point them out. |
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Adrian Here tells the exact difference. He is 100% correct to my point of view.
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