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Jacques Le Roux
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Hi,

While working on HELP_BIRT.xml, I have found another issue regarding the birt component and the Birt license (EPL v1)

It's said at

https://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl/notice.php

that all source maintained in the Birt repository is licensed under EPL v1

The birt.tld file we use to render the example reports

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/ofbiz-plugins/trunk/birt/webapp/birt/WEB-INF/birt.tld

is not a simple file and was wrongly licensed with a ASL2 header.

The ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl needs the birt.tld file and unfortunately reading

http://freemarker.org/docs/pgui_misc_servlet.html

it seems we can't refer to  an URL, like

https://github.com/EclispeBIRT/org.eclipse.birt/blob/master/viewer/org.eclipse.birt.report.viewer/birt/WEB-INF/tlds/birt.tld

So I'm afraid we need to remove the 2 reports FTL examples and the birt.tld.

We can still use the example.rptdesign and chart.rptdesign in other ways. Like we do for other reports or as examples for the Flexible Reports but I'm
not sure it's worth the effort.

What do you think?

Jacques

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Re: birt.tld license

Jacques Le Roux
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It seems there are no other files in birt component concerned by the licensing issue

Jacques


Le 13/04/2017 à 18:35, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> While working on HELP_BIRT.xml, I have found another issue regarding the birt component and the Birt license (EPL v1)
>
> It's said at
>
> https://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl/notice.php
>
> that all source maintained in the Birt repository is licensed under EPL v1
>
> The birt.tld file we use to render the example reports
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/ofbiz-plugins/trunk/birt/webapp/birt/WEB-INF/birt.tld
>
> is not a simple file and was wrongly licensed with a ASL2 header.
>
> The ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl needs the birt.tld file and unfortunately reading
>
> http://freemarker.org/docs/pgui_misc_servlet.html
>
> it seems we can't refer to  an URL, like
>
> https://github.com/EclispeBIRT/org.eclipse.birt/blob/master/viewer/org.eclipse.birt.report.viewer/birt/WEB-INF/tlds/birt.tld
>
> So I'm afraid we need to remove the 2 reports FTL examples and the birt.tld.
>
> We can still use the example.rptdesign and chart.rptdesign in other ways. Like we do for other reports or as examples for the Flexible Reports but
> I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Jacques
>
>

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Re: birt.tld license

taher
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I'm not an quite sure (I'm always bad with legalese) , but would this not
qualify as category B [1] kind of source? It's a tag library needed at
runtime as mentioned in the "Viewer Tag Library" header in [2]. Are we
using the viewer for that matter or did we remove it completely?

[1] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
[2] http://www.eclipse.org/birt/documentation/integrating/viewer-usage.php

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> While working on HELP_BIRT.xml, I have found another issue regarding the
> birt component and the Birt license (EPL v1)
>
> It's said at
>
> https://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl/notice.php
>
> that all source maintained in the Birt repository is licensed under EPL v1
>
> The birt.tld file we use to render the example reports
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/ofbiz-plugins/trunk/b
> irt/webapp/birt/WEB-INF/birt.tld
>
> is not a simple file and was wrongly licensed with a ASL2 header.
>
> The ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl needs the birt.tld file and
> unfortunately reading
>
> http://freemarker.org/docs/pgui_misc_servlet.html
>
> it seems we can't refer to  an URL, like
>
> https://github.com/EclispeBIRT/org.eclipse.birt/blob/master/
> viewer/org.eclipse.birt.report.viewer/birt/WEB-INF/tlds/birt.tld
>
> So I'm afraid we need to remove the 2 reports FTL examples and the
> birt.tld.
>
> We can still use the example.rptdesign and chart.rptdesign in other ways.
> Like we do for other reports or as examples for the Flexible Reports but
> I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Jacques
>
>
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Re: birt.tld license

Jacques Le Roux
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Yes it's indeed possible that we keep it. It's only 1 file, a bit more editable than a DTD and not really a standard, but kind of in the Birt ecosystem.

I tend to agree with Marvin
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-296?focusedCommentId=15952957&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15952957

that the exceptions should exist by projects and on request. We can ask legal for this one since it's really on the edge unlike the case we sorted
with LEGAL-296

And yes we removed the webapp but the ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl continue to work well as long as the birt.tld file is there.

I'll create a new LEGAL Jira!

Thanks

Jacques


Le 13/04/2017 à 19:44, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> I'm not an quite sure (I'm always bad with legalese) , but would this not
> qualify as category B [1] kind of source? It's a tag library needed at
> runtime as mentioned in the "Viewer Tag Library" header in [2]. Are we
> using the viewer for that matter or did we remove it completely?
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/birt/documentation/integrating/viewer-usage.php
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> While working on HELP_BIRT.xml, I have found another issue regarding the
>> birt component and the Birt license (EPL v1)
>>
>> It's said at
>>
>> https://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl/notice.php
>>
>> that all source maintained in the Birt repository is licensed under EPL v1
>>
>> The birt.tld file we use to render the example reports
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/ofbiz-plugins/trunk/b
>> irt/webapp/birt/WEB-INF/birt.tld
>>
>> is not a simple file and was wrongly licensed with a ASL2 header.
>>
>> The ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl needs the birt.tld file and
>> unfortunately reading
>>
>> http://freemarker.org/docs/pgui_misc_servlet.html
>>
>> it seems we can't refer to  an URL, like
>>
>> https://github.com/EclispeBIRT/org.eclipse.birt/blob/master/
>> viewer/org.eclipse.birt.report.viewer/birt/WEB-INF/tlds/birt.tld
>>
>> So I'm afraid we need to remove the 2 reports FTL examples and the
>> birt.tld.
>>
>> We can still use the example.rptdesign and chart.rptdesign in other ways.
>> Like we do for other reports or as examples for the Flexible Reports but
>> I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>

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Re: birt.tld license

Jacques Le Roux
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I reopened LEGAL-296

Jacques


Le 13/04/2017 à 22:42, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> Yes it's indeed possible that we keep it. It's only 1 file, a bit more editable than a DTD and not really a standard, but kind of in the Birt
> ecosystem.
>
> I tend to agree with Marvin
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-296?focusedCommentId=15952957&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15952957
>
> that the exceptions should exist by projects and on request. We can ask legal for this one since it's really on the edge unlike the case we sorted
> with LEGAL-296
>
> And yes we removed the webapp but the ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl continue to work well as long as the birt.tld file is there.
>
> I'll create a new LEGAL Jira!
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 13/04/2017 à 19:44, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>> I'm not an quite sure (I'm always bad with legalese) , but would this not
>> qualify as category B [1] kind of source? It's a tag library needed at
>> runtime as mentioned in the "Viewer Tag Library" header in [2]. Are we
>> using the viewer for that matter or did we remove it completely?
>>
>> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/birt/documentation/integrating/viewer-usage.php
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> While working on HELP_BIRT.xml, I have found another issue regarding the
>>> birt component and the Birt license (EPL v1)
>>>
>>> It's said at
>>>
>>> https://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl/notice.php
>>>
>>> that all source maintained in the Birt repository is licensed under EPL v1
>>>
>>> The birt.tld file we use to render the example reports
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/ofbiz-plugins/trunk/b
>>> irt/webapp/birt/WEB-INF/birt.tld
>>>
>>> is not a simple file and was wrongly licensed with a ASL2 header.
>>>
>>> The ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl needs the birt.tld file and
>>> unfortunately reading
>>>
>>> http://freemarker.org/docs/pgui_misc_servlet.html
>>>
>>> it seems we can't refer to  an URL, like
>>>
>>> https://github.com/EclispeBIRT/org.eclipse.birt/blob/master/
>>> viewer/org.eclipse.birt.report.viewer/birt/WEB-INF/tlds/birt.tld
>>>
>>> So I'm afraid we need to remove the 2 reports FTL examples and the
>>> birt.tld.
>>>
>>> We can still use the example.rptdesign and chart.rptdesign in other ways.
>>> Like we do for other reports or as examples for the Flexible Reports but
>>> I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>
>

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Re: birt.tld license

Jacques Le Roux
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Marvin and Shane think that this file should not be delivered with OFBiz releases. I agree and will remove it.

I see then no ways to save the usage of the ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl which rely on birt.tld. Hence the *HTML* demo reports associated need to be
removed (PDF demos are OK).
So we need to also remove things from the controller, BirtScreens.xml and BirtMenus.xml. I believe we also need to prune web.xml.

It seems to me that we need to remove the attachments folder  And the server-config.wsdd. I see no usage left of them

These were all committed with http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=892658 and later wrongly licensed in a bulk commit.

I will create a Jira for that an attach a patch

Jacques


Le 14/04/2017 à 10:27, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> I reopened LEGAL-296
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 13/04/2017 à 22:42, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>> Yes it's indeed possible that we keep it. It's only 1 file, a bit more editable than a DTD and not really a standard, but kind of in the Birt
>> ecosystem.
>>
>> I tend to agree with Marvin
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-296?focusedCommentId=15952957&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-15952957
>>
>> that the exceptions should exist by projects and on request. We can ask legal for this one since it's really on the edge unlike the case we sorted
>> with LEGAL-296
>>
>> And yes we removed the webapp but the ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl continue to work well as long as the birt.tld file is there.
>>
>> I'll create a new LEGAL Jira!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> Le 13/04/2017 à 19:44, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>> I'm not an quite sure (I'm always bad with legalese) , but would this not
>>> qualify as category B [1] kind of source? It's a tag library needed at
>>> runtime as mentioned in the "Viewer Tag Library" header in [2]. Are we
>>> using the viewer for that matter or did we remove it completely?
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/birt/documentation/integrating/viewer-usage.php
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> While working on HELP_BIRT.xml, I have found another issue regarding the
>>>> birt component and the Birt license (EPL v1)
>>>>
>>>> It's said at
>>>>
>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl/notice.php
>>>>
>>>> that all source maintained in the Birt repository is licensed under EPL v1
>>>>
>>>> The birt.tld file we use to render the example reports
>>>>
>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/ofbiz-plugins/trunk/b
>>>> irt/webapp/birt/WEB-INF/birt.tld
>>>>
>>>> is not a simple file and was wrongly licensed with a ASL2 header.
>>>>
>>>> The ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl needs the birt.tld file and
>>>> unfortunately reading
>>>>
>>>> http://freemarker.org/docs/pgui_misc_servlet.html
>>>>
>>>> it seems we can't refer to  an URL, like
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/EclispeBIRT/org.eclipse.birt/blob/master/
>>>> viewer/org.eclipse.birt.report.viewer/birt/WEB-INF/tlds/birt.tld
>>>>
>>>> So I'm afraid we need to remove the 2 reports FTL examples and the
>>>> birt.tld.
>>>>
>>>> We can still use the example.rptdesign and chart.rptdesign in other ways.
>>>> Like we do for other reports or as examples for the Flexible Reports but
>>>> I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: birt.tld license

Jacques Le Roux
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Le 16/04/2017 à 09:57, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> So we need to also remove things from the controller, BirtScreens.xml and BirtMenus.xml. I believe we also need to prune web.xml.
>
> It seems to me that we need to remove the attachments folder  And the server-config.wsdd. I see no usage left of them
The embedded help is also concerned

Jacques

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Jacques Le Roux
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OFBIZ-9323 wait for your reviews

Thanks

Jacques


Le 16/04/2017 à 10:17, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Le 16/04/2017 à 09:57, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>> So we need to also remove things from the controller, BirtScreens.xml and BirtMenus.xml. I believe we also need to prune web.xml.
>>
>> It seems to me that we need to remove the attachments folder And the server-config.wsdd. I see no usage left of them
> The embedded help is also concerned
>
> Jacques
>
>

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taher
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Hi Jacques,

Can you refer to the discussion thread and / or JIRA issue in which Marvin
and Shane mentioned this info (if it is public) so we can learn and
understand the legal basis of this decision?

Regards,

On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Marvin and Shane think that this file should not be delivered with OFBiz
> releases. I agree and will remove it.
>
> I see then no ways to save the usage of the ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl
> which rely on birt.tld. Hence the *HTML* demo reports associated need to be
> removed (PDF demos are OK).
> So we need to also remove things from the controller, BirtScreens.xml and
> BirtMenus.xml. I believe we also need to prune web.xml.
>
> It seems to me that we need to remove the attachments folder  And the
> server-config.wsdd. I see no usage left of them
>
> These were all committed with http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?v
> iew=revision&revision=892658 and later wrongly licensed in a bulk commit.
>
> I will create a Jira for that an attach a patch
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 14/04/2017 à 10:27, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>
>> I reopened LEGAL-296
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> Le 13/04/2017 à 22:42, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>
>>> Yes it's indeed possible that we keep it. It's only 1 file, a bit more
>>> editable than a DTD and not really a standard, but kind of in the Birt
>>> ecosystem.
>>>
>>> I tend to agree with Marvin https://issues.apache.org/jira
>>> /browse/LEGAL-296?focusedCommentId=15952957&page=com.
>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
>>> tabpanel#comment-15952957
>>>
>>> that the exceptions should exist by projects and on request. We can ask
>>> legal for this one since it's really on the edge unlike the case we sorted
>>> with LEGAL-296
>>>
>>> And yes we removed the webapp but the ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl
>>> continue to work well as long as the birt.tld file is there.
>>>
>>> I'll create a new LEGAL Jira!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 13/04/2017 à 19:44, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I'm not an quite sure (I'm always bad with legalese) , but would this
>>>> not
>>>> qualify as category B [1] kind of source? It's a tag library needed at
>>>> runtime as mentioned in the "Viewer Tag Library" header in [2]. Are we
>>>> using the viewer for that matter or did we remove it completely?
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>>>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/birt/documentation/integrating/viewer
>>>> -usage.php
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> While working on HELP_BIRT.xml, I have found another issue regarding
>>>>> the
>>>>> birt component and the Birt license (EPL v1)
>>>>>
>>>>> It's said at
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl/notice.php
>>>>>
>>>>> that all source maintained in the Birt repository is licensed under
>>>>> EPL v1
>>>>>
>>>>> The birt.tld file we use to render the example reports
>>>>>
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/ofbiz-plugins/trunk/b
>>>>> irt/webapp/birt/WEB-INF/birt.tld
>>>>>
>>>>> is not a simple file and was wrongly licensed with a ASL2 header.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl needs the birt.tld file and
>>>>> unfortunately reading
>>>>>
>>>>> http://freemarker.org/docs/pgui_misc_servlet.html
>>>>>
>>>>> it seems we can't refer to  an URL, like
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/EclispeBIRT/org.eclipse.birt/blob/master/
>>>>> viewer/org.eclipse.birt.report.viewer/birt/WEB-INF/tlds/birt.tld
>>>>>
>>>>> So I'm afraid we need to remove the 2 reports FTL examples and the
>>>>> birt.tld.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can still use the example.rptdesign and chart.rptdesign in other
>>>>> ways.
>>>>> Like we do for other reports or as examples for the Flexible Reports
>>>>> but
>>>>> I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: birt.tld license

Jacques Le Roux
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Hi Taher,

It's in the LEGAL-296 Jira issue reference below

Jacques

Le 18/04/2017 à 11:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> Hi Jacques,
>
> Can you refer to the discussion thread and / or JIRA issue in which Marvin
> and Shane mentioned this info (if it is public) so we can learn and
> understand the legal basis of this decision?
>
> Regards,
>
> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Marvin and Shane think that this file should not be delivered with OFBiz
>> releases. I agree and will remove it.
>>
>> I see then no ways to save the usage of the ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl
>> which rely on birt.tld. Hence the *HTML* demo reports associated need to be
>> removed (PDF demos are OK).
>> So we need to also remove things from the controller, BirtScreens.xml and
>> BirtMenus.xml. I believe we also need to prune web.xml.
>>
>> It seems to me that we need to remove the attachments folder  And the
>> server-config.wsdd. I see no usage left of them
>>
>> These were all committed with http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?v
>> iew=revision&revision=892658 and later wrongly licensed in a bulk commit.
>>
>> I will create a Jira for that an attach a patch
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 14/04/2017 à 10:27, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>
>>> I reopened LEGAL-296
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 13/04/2017 à 22:42, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Yes it's indeed possible that we keep it. It's only 1 file, a bit more
>>>> editable than a DTD and not really a standard, but kind of in the Birt
>>>> ecosystem.
>>>>
>>>> I tend to agree with Marvin https://issues.apache.org/jira
>>>> /browse/LEGAL-296?focusedCommentId=15952957&page=com.
>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
>>>> tabpanel#comment-15952957
>>>>
>>>> that the exceptions should exist by projects and on request. We can ask
>>>> legal for this one since it's really on the edge unlike the case we sorted
>>>> with LEGAL-296
>>>>
>>>> And yes we removed the webapp but the ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl
>>>> continue to work well as long as the birt.tld file is there.
>>>>
>>>> I'll create a new LEGAL Jira!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 13/04/2017 à 19:44, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not an quite sure (I'm always bad with legalese) , but would this
>>>>> not
>>>>> qualify as category B [1] kind of source? It's a tag library needed at
>>>>> runtime as mentioned in the "Viewer Tag Library" header in [2]. Are we
>>>>> using the viewer for that matter or did we remove it completely?
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>>>>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/birt/documentation/integrating/viewer
>>>>> -usage.php
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> While working on HELP_BIRT.xml, I have found another issue regarding
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> birt component and the Birt license (EPL v1)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's said at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl/notice.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that all source maintained in the Birt repository is licensed under
>>>>>> EPL v1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The birt.tld file we use to render the example reports
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/ofbiz-plugins/trunk/b
>>>>>> irt/webapp/birt/WEB-INF/birt.tld
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is not a simple file and was wrongly licensed with a ASL2 header.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ChartReport.ftl and Report.ftl needs the birt.tld file and
>>>>>> unfortunately reading
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://freemarker.org/docs/pgui_misc_servlet.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it seems we can't refer to  an URL, like
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/EclispeBIRT/org.eclipse.birt/blob/master/
>>>>>> viewer/org.eclipse.birt.report.viewer/birt/WEB-INF/tlds/birt.tld
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I'm afraid we need to remove the 2 reports FTL examples and the
>>>>>> birt.tld.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can still use the example.rptdesign and chart.rptdesign in other
>>>>>> ways.
>>>>>> Like we do for other reports or as examples for the Flexible Reports
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>