google check out in ofbiz

[G.Venkata Phanindra]

hi,
   I found that google check out integration with ofbiz is already and issue
and also read the comments there.
I also want to use google check out with ofbiz,It will be of great help if
some one gives more information on process for integration.if some one has
already workeed on it.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-71

regards

G.Venkata Phanindra
Mob:: [phone]

[rohit]

hi,

before you start integrating google checkout, please be sure to go through the policies of google checkout. google checkout is quite different than paypal and i am not sure if you can use that as a model. for eg. in google checkout personal details are shared unitil the customer has clicked the order confirm button on google. Roughly the checkout steps are the following:

1) customer adds the products on your ecommerce website.
2) customer sees the cart, which has all the products added by him
3) along with your checkout button, the customer sees a google checkout button.
4) customer clicks the google checkout and is redirected to google hosted pages, your website passes all the cart variables( item name, quantity, price etc) to google
5) customer logs in google and then google sends you his address details like zip, country etc, and your site responds to it with shipping methods available and their charges.
6) google recalculates the order total and if the customer pays for the order it sends you the personal details of the customer and the customer is redirected to your site.

The above steps are for level 2 integration. I am not sure how far it is practical, but it appears that google checkout is assuming that the customer never creates a account on your site. The whole USP of google is that the privacy of the customer is very high. The customer details are not shared till the customer has actually paid for the order.

I was also trying to integrate google checkout, but i guess its very complicated. Chris tried to help me out, but i guess his sample code violates google's policy, ie. to show the google checkout button along with your own, and allow the customer to purchase with creating an account on your site. If i am correct Chris's code is more like paypal, it sends google the cart total shipping amount etc which are calculated while the customer is still on your site.

Please do read google's checkout policies, before you try to integrate google with ofbiz.

Rohit



 

G.Venkata Phanindra wrote

hi,
   I found that google check out integration with ofbiz is already and issue
and also read the comments there.
I also want to use google check out with ofbiz,It will be of great help if
some one gives more information on process for integration.if some one has
already workeed on it.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-71

regards

G.Venkata Phanindra
Mob:: [phone]

[G.Venkata Phanindra]

Thanks for the reply,
          I have checked the code Chris gave in jira and i also tried to use
it, there chris left the following detail to be filled  and what is  the
entry we have to add with the  ProductStorePaymentSetting i saw it to be an
Table.
          ShippingMethodsType methods = ; //haven't looked into what this is
made up of yet
          DefaultTaxTable defaultTaxTable = ; //haven't looked into what
this is made up of yet
          List alterTaxTableList = ; //haven't looked into what this is made
up of yet
          MerchantCalculations couponInfo = ; //haven't looked into what
this is made up of yet
          String editCartUrl = ; //haven't looked into what this is made up
of yet
          String continueShoppingUrl = ; //haven't looked into what this is
made up of yet

but i could not find these configurations in default ofbiz.

On 9/8/06, rohit2006 <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> hi,
>
> before you start integrating google checkout, please be sure to go through
> the policies of google checkout. google checkout is quite different than
> paypal and i am not sure if you can use that as a model. for eg. in google
> checkout personal details are shared unitil the customer has clicked the
> order confirm button on google. Roughly the checkout steps are the
> following:
>
> 1) customer adds the products on your ecommerce website.
> 2) customer sees the cart, which has all the products added by him
> 3) along with your checkout button, the customer sees a google checkout
> button.
> 4) customer clicks the google checkout and is redirected to google hosted
> pages, your website passes all the cart variables( item name, quantity,
> price etc) to google
> 5) customer logs in google and then google sends you his address details
> like zip, country etc, and your site responds to it with shipping methods
> available and their charges.
> 6) google recalculates the order total and if the customer pays for the
> order it sends you the personal details of the customer and the customer
> is
> redirected to your site.
>
> The above steps are for level 2 integration. I am not sure how far it is
> practical, but it appears that google checkout is assuming that the
> customer
> never creates a account on your site. The whole USP of google is that the
> privacy of the customer is very high. The customer details are not shared
> till the customer has actually paid for the order.
>
> I was also trying to integrate google checkout, but i guess its very
> complicated. Chris tried to help me out, but i guess his sample code
> violates google's policy, ie. to show the google checkout button along
> with
> your own, and allow the customer to purchase with creating an account on
> your site. If i am correct Chris's code is more like paypal, it sends
> google
> the cart total shipping amount etc which are calculated while the customer
> is still on your site.
>
> Please do read google's checkout policies, before you try to integrate
> google with ofbiz.
>
> Rohit
>
>
>
>
>
> G.Venkata Phanindra wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >    I found that google check out integration with ofbiz is already and
> > issue
> > and also read the comments there.
> > I also want to use google check out with ofbiz,It will be of great help
> if
> > some one gives more information on process for integration.if some one
> has
> > already workeed on it.
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-71
> >
> > regards
> >
> > G.Venkata Phanindra
> > Mob:: [phone]
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/google-check-out-in-ofbiz-tf2238580.html#a6211182
> Sent from the OFBiz - User forum at Nabble.com.
>
>

--
G.Venkata Phanindra
Mob:: [phone]

[cjhowe]

The extent that I got on OFBIZ-71 is a straight
implementation of how google is asking for the
information.  The only information that it's taking is
the info from the cart.  

Perhaps
 List orderItems = context.get("orderItems");

 should be
 HttpSession session = request.getSession();
 ShoppingCart cart = (ShoppingCart)
session.getAttribute("shoppingCart");
 List orderItems = shoppingCart.get("items");



Is it google's policy that you CAN'T know the identity
until the order has been place or that the option
should be available?

--- rohit2006 <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> hi,
>
> before you start integrating google checkout, please
> be sure to go through
> the policies of google checkout. google checkout is
> quite different than
> paypal and i am not sure if you can use that as a
> model. for eg. in google
> checkout personal details are shared unitil the
> customer has clicked the
> order confirm button on google. Roughly the checkout
> steps are the
> following:
>
> 1) customer adds the products on your ecommerce
> website.
> 2) customer sees the cart, which has all the
> products added by him
> 3) along with your checkout button, the customer
> sees a google checkout
> button.
> 4) customer clicks the google checkout and is
> redirected to google hosted
> pages, your website passes all the cart variables(
> item name, quantity,
> price etc) to google
> 5) customer logs in google and then google sends you
> his address details
> like zip, country etc, and your site responds to it
> with shipping methods
> available and their charges.
> 6) google recalculates the order total and if the
> customer pays for the
> order it sends you the personal details of the
> customer and the customer is
> redirected to your site.
>
> The above steps are for level 2 integration. I am
> not sure how far it is
> practical, but it appears that google checkout is
> assuming that the customer
> never creates a account on your site. The whole USP
> of google is that the
> privacy of the customer is very high. The customer
> details are not shared
> till the customer has actually paid for the order.
>
> I was also trying to integrate google checkout, but
> i guess its very
> complicated. Chris tried to help me out, but i guess
> his sample code
> violates google's policy, ie. to show the google
> checkout button along with
> your own, and allow the customer to purchase with
> creating an account on
> your site. If i am correct Chris's code is more like
> paypal, it sends google
> the cart total shipping amount etc which are
> calculated while the customer
> is still on your site.
>
> Please do read google's checkout policies, before
> you try to integrate
> google with ofbiz.
>
> Rohit
>
>
>
>  
>
> G.Venkata Phanindra wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >    I found that google check out integration with
> ofbiz is already and
> > issue
> > and also read the comments there.
> > I also want to use google check out with ofbiz,It
> will be of great help if
> > some one gives more information on process for
> integration.if some one has
> > already workeed on it.
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-71
> >
> > regards
> >
> > G.Venkata Phanindra
> > Mob:: [phone]
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
>

http://www.nabble.com/google-check-out-in-ofbiz-tf2238580.html#a6211182
> Sent from the OFBiz - User forum at Nabble.com.
>
>

[cjhowe]

Those are objects that need to be passed to google's
api the classes for those methods are in

com.google.checkout.sample.protocol.CheckoutCartBuilder.java

I didn't look into them further because I have no need
for Google Checkout, I was just helping Rohit along.
What google is asking for is in the java file that I
referenced.

--- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for the reply,
>           I have checked the code Chris gave in jira
> and i also tried to use
> it, there chris left the following detail to be
> filled  and what is  the
> entry we have to add with the
> ProductStorePaymentSetting i saw it to be an
> Table.
>           ShippingMethodsType methods = ; //haven't
> looked into what this is
> made up of yet
>           DefaultTaxTable defaultTaxTable = ;
> //haven't looked into what
> this is made up of yet
>           List alterTaxTableList = ; //haven't
> looked into what this is made
> up of yet
>           MerchantCalculations couponInfo = ;
> //haven't looked into what
> this is made up of yet
>           String editCartUrl = ; //haven't looked
> into what this is made up
> of yet
>           String continueShoppingUrl = ; //haven't
> looked into what this is
> made up of yet
>
> but i could not find these configurations in default
> ofbiz.
>
> On 9/8/06, rohit2006 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > before you start integrating google checkout,
> please be sure to go through
> > the policies of google checkout. google checkout
> is quite different than
> > paypal and i am not sure if you can use that as a
> model. for eg. in google
> > checkout personal details are shared unitil the
> customer has clicked the
> > order confirm button on google. Roughly the
> checkout steps are the
> > following:
> >
> > 1) customer adds the products on your ecommerce
> website.
> > 2) customer sees the cart, which has all the
> products added by him
> > 3) along with your checkout button, the customer
> sees a google checkout
> > button.
> > 4) customer clicks the google checkout and is
> redirected to google hosted
> > pages, your website passes all the cart variables(
> item name, quantity,
> > price etc) to google
> > 5) customer logs in google and then google sends
> you his address details
> > like zip, country etc, and your site responds to
> it with shipping methods
> > available and their charges.
> > 6) google recalculates the order total and if the
> customer pays for the
> > order it sends you the personal details of the
> customer and the customer
> > is
> > redirected to your site.
> >
> > The above steps are for level 2 integration. I am
> not sure how far it is
> > practical, but it appears that google checkout is
> assuming that the
> > customer
> > never creates a account on your site. The whole
> USP of google is that the
> > privacy of the customer is very high. The customer
> details are not shared
> > till the customer has actually paid for the order.
> >
> > I was also trying to integrate google checkout,
> but i guess its very
> > complicated. Chris tried to help me out, but i
> guess his sample code
> > violates google's policy, ie. to show the google
> checkout button along
> > with
> > your own, and allow the customer to purchase with
> creating an account on
> > your site. If i am correct Chris's code is more
> like paypal, it sends
> > google
> > the cart total shipping amount etc which are
> calculated while the customer
> > is still on your site.
> >
> > Please do read google's checkout policies, before
> you try to integrate
> > google with ofbiz.
> >
> > Rohit
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > G.Venkata Phanindra wrote:
> > >
> > > hi,
> > >    I found that google check out integration
> with ofbiz is already and
> > > issue
> > > and also read the comments there.
> > > I also want to use google check out with
> ofbiz,It will be of great help
> > if
> > > some one gives more information on process for
> integration.if some one
> > has
> > > already workeed on it.
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-71
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > G.Venkata Phanindra
> > > Mob:: [phone]
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
>

http://www.nabble.com/google-check-out-in-ofbiz-tf2238580.html#a6211182
> > Sent from the OFBiz - User forum at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> G.Venkata Phanindra
> Mob:: [phone]
>

[rohit]

hi,

google policies for sellers can be seen here.

https://checkout.google.com/seller/policies.html

more information on the checkout can be seen on this link http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/samplecode.html.

I was unable to exactly find the page on the work flow, but google does neet that you unable the buyer the ability to shop without creating an account on your store.

Rohit

cjhowe wrote

The extent that I got on OFBIZ-71 is a straight
implementation of how google is asking for the
information.  The only information that it's taking is
the info from the cart.  

Perhaps
 List orderItems = context.get("orderItems");

 should be
 HttpSession session = request.getSession();
 ShoppingCart cart = (ShoppingCart)
session.getAttribute("shoppingCart");
 List orderItems = shoppingCart.get("items");



Is it google's policy that you CAN'T know the identity
until the order has been place or that the option
should be available?

--- rohit2006 <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> hi,
>
> before you start integrating google checkout, please
> be sure to go through
> the policies of google checkout. google checkout is
> quite different than
> paypal and i am not sure if you can use that as a
> model. for eg. in google
> checkout personal details are shared unitil the
> customer has clicked the
> order confirm button on google. Roughly the checkout
> steps are the
> following:
>
> 1) customer adds the products on your ecommerce
> website.
> 2) customer sees the cart, which has all the
> products added by him
> 3) along with your checkout button, the customer
> sees a google checkout
> button.
> 4) customer clicks the google checkout and is
> redirected to google hosted
> pages, your website passes all the cart variables(
> item name, quantity,
> price etc) to google
> 5) customer logs in google and then google sends you
> his address details
> like zip, country etc, and your site responds to it
> with shipping methods
> available and their charges.
> 6) google recalculates the order total and if the
> customer pays for the
> order it sends you the personal details of the
> customer and the customer is
> redirected to your site.
>
> The above steps are for level 2 integration. I am
> not sure how far it is
> practical, but it appears that google checkout is
> assuming that the customer
> never creates a account on your site. The whole USP
> of google is that the
> privacy of the customer is very high. The customer
> details are not shared
> till the customer has actually paid for the order.
>
> I was also trying to integrate google checkout, but
> i guess its very
> complicated. Chris tried to help me out, but i guess
> his sample code
> violates google's policy, ie. to show the google
> checkout button along with
> your own, and allow the customer to purchase with
> creating an account on
> your site. If i am correct Chris's code is more like
> paypal, it sends google
> the cart total shipping amount etc which are
> calculated while the customer
> is still on your site.
>
> Please do read google's checkout policies, before
> you try to integrate
> google with ofbiz.
>
> Rohit
>
>
>
>  
>
> G.Venkata Phanindra wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >    I found that google check out integration with
> ofbiz is already and
> > issue
> > and also read the comments there.
> > I also want to use google check out with ofbiz,It
> will be of great help if
> > some one gives more information on process for
> integration.if some one has
> > already workeed on it.
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-71
> >
> > regards
> >
> > G.Venkata Phanindra
> > Mob:: [phone]
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
>
http://www.nabble.com/google-check-out-in-ofbiz-tf2238580.html#a6211182
> Sent from the OFBiz - User forum at Nabble.com.
>
>

[G.Venkata Phanindra]

Hi Rohit and Chris,
         I have a specific requirement with google check out integration
with ofbiz.I donnot want the customer to go out of my webstore i want the
user to provide all the information and i want to pass this information to
google and get the response from the google, take respective action
depending upon that specific response from google for this i am try ing to
use the following method specified in developers guide
http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/developer/index.html#alternative_technique
but the problem is i could not find api that is providinng us an optioin to
pass on the user google acount information. is it possible to achive that we
pass on information to google with out actually user going to the google
check out page.

regards
Phani


On 9/10/06, rohit2006 <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> hi,
>
> google policies for sellers can be seen here.
>
> https://checkout.google.com/seller/policies.html
>
> more information on the checkout can be seen on this link
> http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/samplecode.html.
>
> I was unable to exactly find the page on the work flow, but google does
> neet
> that you unable the buyer the ability to shop without creating an account
> on
> your store.
>
> Rohit
>
>
>
> cjhowe wrote:
> >
> > The extent that I got on OFBIZ-71 is a straight
> > implementation of how google is asking for the
> > information.  The only information that it's taking is
> > the info from the cart.
> >
> > Perhaps
> >  List orderItems = context.get("orderItems");
> >
> >  should be
> >  HttpSession session = request.getSession();
> >  ShoppingCart cart = (ShoppingCart)
> > session.getAttribute("shoppingCart");
> >  List orderItems = shoppingCart.get("items");
> >
> >
> >
> > Is it google's policy that you CAN'T know the identity
> > until the order has been place or that the option
> > should be available?
> >
> > --- rohit2006 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> hi,
> >>
> >> before you start integrating google checkout, please
> >> be sure to go through
> >> the policies of google checkout. google checkout is
> >> quite different than
> >> paypal and i am not sure if you can use that as a
> >> model. for eg. in google
> >> checkout personal details are shared unitil the
> >> customer has clicked the
> >> order confirm button on google. Roughly the checkout
> >> steps are the
> >> following:
> >>
> >> 1) customer adds the products on your ecommerce
> >> website.
> >> 2) customer sees the cart, which has all the
> >> products added by him
> >> 3) along with your checkout button, the customer
> >> sees a google checkout
> >> button.
> >> 4) customer clicks the google checkout and is
> >> redirected to google hosted
> >> pages, your website passes all the cart variables(
> >> item name, quantity,
> >> price etc) to google
> >> 5) customer logs in google and then google sends you
> >> his address details
> >> like zip, country etc, and your site responds to it
> >> with shipping methods
> >> available and their charges.
> >> 6) google recalculates the order total and if the
> >> customer pays for the
> >> order it sends you the personal details of the
> >> customer and the customer is
> >> redirected to your site.
> >>
> >> The above steps are for level 2 integration. I am
> >> not sure how far it is
> >> practical, but it appears that google checkout is
> >> assuming that the customer
> >> never creates a account on your site. The whole USP
> >> of google is that the
> >> privacy of the customer is very high. The customer
> >> details are not shared
> >> till the customer has actually paid for the order.
> >>
> >> I was also trying to integrate google checkout, but
> >> i guess its very
> >> complicated. Chris tried to help me out, but i guess
> >> his sample code
> >> violates google's policy, ie. to show the google
> >> checkout button along with
> >> your own, and allow the customer to purchase with
> >> creating an account on
> >> your site. If i am correct Chris's code is more like
> >> paypal, it sends google
> >> the cart total shipping amount etc which are
> >> calculated while the customer
> >> is still on your site.
> >>
> >> Please do read google's checkout policies, before
> >> you try to integrate
> >> google with ofbiz.
> >>
> >> Rohit
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> G.Venkata Phanindra wrote:
> >> >
> >> > hi,
> >> >    I found that google check out integration with
> >> ofbiz is already and
> >> > issue
> >> > and also read the comments there.
> >> > I also want to use google check out with ofbiz,It
> >> will be of great help if
> >> > some one gives more information on process for
> >> integration.if some one has
> >> > already workeed on it.
> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-71
> >> >
> >> > regards
> >> >
> >> > G.Venkata Phanindra
> >> > Mob:: [phone]
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
> > http://www.nabble.com/google-check-out-in-ofbiz-tf2238580.html#a6211182
> >> Sent from the OFBiz - User forum at Nabble.com.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/google-check-out-in-ofbiz-tf2238580.html#a6231559
> Sent from the OFBiz - User forum at Nabble.com.
>
>

--
G.Venkata Phanindra
Mob:: [phone]

[cjhowe]

To support Google checkout, they must leave your
store.  Google MANDATES that they do this.  This is
the reason why I have no interest in completing google
checkout for Ofbiz.  Google wants to be too big a part
of the transaction.  Most retailers only want google
to do their credit card processing and take advantage
of the AdWords discount.  Google on the other hand
wants to be consumer advocate as well.  Dictating how
you develop your relationship with your customer.
IMO All of their dealings with AOL are really spoiling
their culture.  They're attempting to create a walled
garden for google users with their services.  The
difference between G and AOL is that with AOL you
started out with their service and were limited to
their services, with G they want the user to think
that they have a choice to go outside the garden, but
it's simply not worthwhile to do so.



--- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Rohit and Chris,
>          I have a specific requirement with google
> check out integration
> with ofbiz.I donnot want the customer to go out of
> my webstore i want the
> user to provide all the information and i want to
> pass this information to
> google and get the response from the google, take
> respective action
> depending upon that specific response from google
> for this i am try ing to
> use the following method specified in developers
> guide
>

http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/developer/index.html#alternative_technique

> but the problem is i could not find api that is
> providinng us an optioin to
> pass on the user google acount information. is it
> possible to achive that we
> pass on information to google with out actually user
> going to the google
> check out page.
>
> regards
> Phani
>
>
> On 9/10/06, rohit2006 <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > google policies for sellers can be seen here.
> >
> > https://checkout.google.com/seller/policies.html
> >
> > more information on the checkout can be seen on
> this link
> >
>

http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/samplecode.html.

> >
> > I was unable to exactly find the page on the work
> flow, but google does
> > neet
> > that you unable the buyer the ability to shop
> without creating an account
> > on
> > your store.
> >
> > Rohit
> >
> >
> >
> > cjhowe wrote:
> > >
> > > The extent that I got on OFBIZ-71 is a straight
> > > implementation of how google is asking for the
> > > information.  The only information that it's
> taking is
> > > the info from the cart.
> > >
> > > Perhaps
> > >  List orderItems = context.get("orderItems");
> > >
> > >  should be
> > >  HttpSession session = request.getSession();
> > >  ShoppingCart cart = (ShoppingCart)
> > > session.getAttribute("shoppingCart");
> > >  List orderItems = shoppingCart.get("items");
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is it google's policy that you CAN'T know the
> identity
> > > until the order has been place or that the
> option
> > > should be available?
> > >
> > > --- rohit2006 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> hi,
> > >>
> > >> before you start integrating google checkout,
> please
> > >> be sure to go through
> > >> the policies of google checkout. google
> checkout is
> > >> quite different than
> > >> paypal and i am not sure if you can use that as
> a
> > >> model. for eg. in google
> > >> checkout personal details are shared unitil the
> > >> customer has clicked the
> > >> order confirm button on google. Roughly the
> checkout
> > >> steps are the
> > >> following:
> > >>
> > >> 1) customer adds the products on your ecommerce
> > >> website.
> > >> 2) customer sees the cart, which has all the
> > >> products added by him
> > >> 3) along with your checkout button, the
> customer
> > >> sees a google checkout
> > >> button.
> > >> 4) customer clicks the google checkout and is
> > >> redirected to google hosted
> > >> pages, your website passes all the cart
> variables(
> > >> item name, quantity,
> > >> price etc) to google
> > >> 5) customer logs in google and then google
> sends you
> > >> his address details
> > >> like zip, country etc, and your site responds
> to it
> > >> with shipping methods
> > >> available and their charges.
> > >> 6) google recalculates the order total and if
> the
> > >> customer pays for the
> > >> order it sends you the personal details of the
> > >> customer and the customer is
> > >> redirected to your site.
> > >>
> > >> The above steps are for level 2 integration. I
> am
> > >> not sure how far it is
> > >> practical, but it appears that google checkout
> is
> > >> assuming that the customer
> > >> never creates a account on your site. The whole
> USP
> > >> of google is that the
> > >> privacy of the customer is very high. The
> customer
> > >> details are not shared
> > >> till the customer has actually paid for the
> order.
> > >>
> > >> I was also trying to integrate google checkout,
> but
> > >> i guess its very
> > >> complicated. Chris tried to help me out, but i
> guess
> > >> his sample code
> > >> violates google's policy, ie. to show the
> google
> > >> checkout button along with
> > >> your own, and allow the customer to purchase
> with
> > >> creating an account on
> > >> your site. If i am correct Chris's code is more
> like
> > >> paypal, it sends google
> > >> the cart total shipping amount etc which are
> > >> calculated while the customer
> > >> is still on your site.
> > >>
> > >> Please do read google's checkout policies,
> before
> > >> you try to integrate
> > >> google with ofbiz.
> > >>
> > >> Rohit
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> G.Venkata Phanindra wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > hi,
> > >> >    I found that google check out integration
> with
> > >> ofbiz is already and
> > >> > issue
> > >> > and also read the comments there.
> > >> > I also want to use google check out with
> ofbiz,It
> > >> will be of great help if
> > >> > some one gives more information on process
> for
> > >> integration.if some one has
> > >> > already workeed on it.
> > >> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-71
> > >> >
> > >> > regards
> > >> >
> > >> > G.Venkata Phanindra
> > >> > Mob:: [phone]
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> View this message in context:
> > >>
> > >
>

http://www.nabble.com/google-check-out-in-ofbiz-tf2238580.html#a6211182
>
=== message truncated ===

[G.Venkata Phanindra]

Hi Chris.
       I want to know can we achive paypal integration with  out user going
out of my website.
Thanks and Regards
Phani

On 9/11/06, Chris Howe <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> To support Google checkout, they must leave your
> store.  Google MANDATES that they do this.  This is
> the reason why I have no interest in completing google
> checkout for Ofbiz.  Google wants to be too big a part
> of the transaction.  Most retailers only want google
> to do their credit card processing and take advantage
> of the AdWords discount.  Google on the other hand
> wants to be consumer advocate as well.  Dictating how
> you develop your relationship with your customer.
> IMO All of their dealings with AOL are really spoiling
> their culture.  They're attempting to create a walled
> garden for google users with their services.  The
> difference between G and AOL is that with AOL you
> started out with their service and were limited to
> their services, with G they want the user to think
> that they have a choice to go outside the garden, but
> it's simply not worthwhile to do so.
>
>
>
> --- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rohit and Chris,
> >          I have a specific requirement with google
> > check out integration
> > with ofbiz.I donnot want the customer to go out of
> > my webstore i want the
> > user to provide all the information and i want to
> > pass this information to
> > google and get the response from the google, take
> > respective action
> > depending upon that specific response from google
> > for this i am try ing to
> > use the following method specified in developers
> > guide
> >
>
> http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/developer/index.html#alternative_technique
> > but the problem is i could not find api that is
> > providinng us an optioin to
> > pass on the user google acount information. is it
> > possible to achive that we
> > pass on information to google with out actually user
> > going to the google
> > check out page.
> >
> > regards
> > Phani
> >
> >
> > On 9/10/06, rohit2006 <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > google policies for sellers can be seen here.
> > >
> > > https://checkout.google.com/seller/policies.html
> > >
> > > more information on the checkout can be seen on
> > this link
> > >
> >
> http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/samplecode.html.
> > >
> > > I was unable to exactly find the page on the work
> > flow, but google does
> > > neet
> > > that you unable the buyer the ability to shop
> > without creating an account
> > > on
> > > your store.
> > >
> > > Rohit
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > cjhowe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The extent that I got on OFBIZ-71 is a straight
> > > > implementation of how google is asking for the
> > > > information.  The only information that it's
> > taking is
> > > > the info from the cart.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps
> > > >  List orderItems = context.get("orderItems");
> > > >
> > > >  should be
> > > >  HttpSession session = request.getSession();
> > > >  ShoppingCart cart = (ShoppingCart)
> > > > session.getAttribute("shoppingCart");
> > > >  List orderItems = shoppingCart.get("items");
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is it google's policy that you CAN'T know the
> > identity
> > > > until the order has been place or that the
> > option
> > > > should be available?
> > > >
> > > > --- rohit2006 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> before you start integrating google checkout,
> > please
> > > >> be sure to go through
> > > >> the policies of google checkout. google
> > checkout is
> > > >> quite different than
> > > >> paypal and i am not sure if you can use that as
> > a
> > > >> model. for eg. in google
> > > >> checkout personal details are shared unitil the
> > > >> customer has clicked the
> > > >> order confirm button on google. Roughly the
> > checkout
> > > >> steps are the
> > > >> following:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1) customer adds the products on your ecommerce
> > > >> website.
> > > >> 2) customer sees the cart, which has all the
> > > >> products added by him
> > > >> 3) along with your checkout button, the
> > customer
> > > >> sees a google checkout
> > > >> button.
> > > >> 4) customer clicks the google checkout and is
> > > >> redirected to google hosted
> > > >> pages, your website passes all the cart
> > variables(
> > > >> item name, quantity,
> > > >> price etc) to google
> > > >> 5) customer logs in google and then google
> > sends you
> > > >> his address details
> > > >> like zip, country etc, and your site responds
> > to it
> > > >> with shipping methods
> > > >> available and their charges.
> > > >> 6) google recalculates the order total and if
> > the
> > > >> customer pays for the
> > > >> order it sends you the personal details of the
> > > >> customer and the customer is
> > > >> redirected to your site.
> > > >>
> > > >> The above steps are for level 2 integration. I
> > am
> > > >> not sure how far it is
> > > >> practical, but it appears that google checkout
> > is
> > > >> assuming that the customer
> > > >> never creates a account on your site. The whole
> > USP
> > > >> of google is that the
> > > >> privacy of the customer is very high. The
> > customer
> > > >> details are not shared
> > > >> till the customer has actually paid for the
> > order.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was also trying to integrate google checkout,
> > but
> > > >> i guess its very
> > > >> complicated. Chris tried to help me out, but i
> > guess
> > > >> his sample code
> > > >> violates google's policy, ie. to show the
> > google
> > > >> checkout button along with
> > > >> your own, and allow the customer to purchase
> > with
> > > >> creating an account on
> > > >> your site. If i am correct Chris's code is more
> > like
> > > >> paypal, it sends google
> > > >> the cart total shipping amount etc which are
> > > >> calculated while the customer
> > > >> is still on your site.
> > > >>
> > > >> Please do read google's checkout policies,
> > before
> > > >> you try to integrate
> > > >> google with ofbiz.
> > > >>
> > > >> Rohit
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> G.Venkata Phanindra wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > hi,
> > > >> >    I found that google check out integration
> > with
> > > >> ofbiz is already and
> > > >> > issue
> > > >> > and also read the comments there.
> > > >> > I also want to use google check out with
> > ofbiz,It
> > > >> will be of great help if
> > > >> > some one gives more information on process
> > for
> > > >> integration.if some one has
> > > >> > already workeed on it.
> > > >> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-71
> > > >> >
> > > >> > regards
> > > >> >
> > > >> > G.Venkata Phanindra
> > > >> > Mob:: [phone]
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> View this message in context:
> > > >>
> > > >
> >
> http://www.nabble.com/google-check-out-in-ofbiz-tf2238580.html#a6211182
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>

--
G.Venkata Phanindra
Mob:: [phone]

[cjhowe]

I know we all want to treat online payments as being
the same as accepting a credit card, but it's not.  In
order for you to not know your customer's secret
information (which is the major lure of these sites)
they have to leave your site.  

Credit cards go:  customer ->vendor ->credit card
processor -> bank -> credit card processor ->vendor
->customer

paypal and google checkout go: customer
->google/paypal ->credit card processor -> bank ->
credit card processor->google/paypal->vendor->customer
--- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Chris.
>        I want to know can we achive paypal
> integration with  out user going
> out of my website.
> Thanks and Regards
> Phani
>
> On 9/11/06, Chris Howe <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > To support Google checkout, they must leave your
> > store.  Google MANDATES that they do this.  This
> is
> > the reason why I have no interest in completing
> google
> > checkout for Ofbiz.  Google wants to be too big a
> part
> > of the transaction.  Most retailers only want
> google
> > to do their credit card processing and take
> advantage
> > of the AdWords discount.  Google on the other hand
> > wants to be consumer advocate as well.  Dictating
> how
> > you develop your relationship with your customer.
> > IMO All of their dealings with AOL are really
> spoiling
> > their culture.  They're attempting to create a
> walled
> > garden for google users with their services.  The
> > difference between G and AOL is that with AOL you
> > started out with their service and were limited to
> > their services, with G they want the user to think
> > that they have a choice to go outside the garden,
> but
> > it's simply not worthwhile to do so.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rohit and Chris,
> > >          I have a specific requirement with
> google
> > > check out integration
> > > with ofbiz.I donnot want the customer to go out
> of
> > > my webstore i want the
> > > user to provide all the information and i want
> to
> > > pass this information to
> > > google and get the response from the google,
> take
> > > respective action
> > > depending upon that specific response from
> google
> > > for this i am try ing to
> > > use the following method specified in developers
> > > guide
> > >
> >
> >
>

http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/developer/index.html#alternative_technique

> > > but the problem is i could not find api that is
> > > providinng us an optioin to
> > > pass on the user google acount information. is
> it
> > > possible to achive that we
> > > pass on information to google with out actually
> user
> > > going to the google
> > > check out page.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Phani
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/10/06, rohit2006 <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hi,
> > > >
> > > > google policies for sellers can be seen here.
> > > >
> > > >
> https://checkout.google.com/seller/policies.html
> > > >
> > > > more information on the checkout can be seen
> on
> > > this link
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/samplecode.html.

> > > >
> > > > I was unable to exactly find the page on the
> work
> > > flow, but google does
> > > > neet
> > > > that you unable the buyer the ability to shop
> > > without creating an account
> > > > on
> > > > your store.
> > > >
> > > > Rohit
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > cjhowe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The extent that I got on OFBIZ-71 is a
> straight
> > > > > implementation of how google is asking for
> the
> > > > > information.  The only information that it's
> > > taking is
> > > > > the info from the cart.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps
> > > > >  List orderItems =
> context.get("orderItems");
> > > > >
> > > > >  should be
> > > > >  HttpSession session = request.getSession();
> > > > >  ShoppingCart cart = (ShoppingCart)
> > > > > session.getAttribute("shoppingCart");
> > > > >  List orderItems =
> shoppingCart.get("items");
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it google's policy that you CAN'T know
> the
> > > identity
> > > > > until the order has been place or that the
> > > option
> > > > > should be available?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- rohit2006 <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> before you start integrating google
> checkout,
> > > please
> > > > >> be sure to go through
> > > > >> the policies of google checkout. google
> > > checkout is
> > > > >> quite different than
> > > > >> paypal and i am not sure if you can use
> that as
> > > a
> > > > >> model. for eg. in google
> > > > >> checkout personal details are shared unitil
> the
> > > > >> customer has clicked the
> > > > >> order confirm button on google. Roughly the
> > > checkout
> > > > >> steps are the
> > > > >> following:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1) customer adds the products on your
> ecommerce
> > > > >> website.
> > > > >> 2) customer sees the cart, which has all
> the
> > > > >> products added by him
> > > > >> 3) along with your checkout button, the
> > > customer
> > > > >> sees a google checkout
> > > > >> button.
> > > > >> 4) customer clicks the google checkout and
> is
> > > > >> redirected to google hosted
> > > > >> pages, your website passes all the cart
> > > variables(
> > > > >> item name, quantity,
> > > > >> price etc) to google
> > > > >> 5) customer logs in google and then google
> > > sends you
> > > > >> his address details
> > > > >> like zip, country etc, and your site
> responds
> > > to it
> > > > >> with shipping methods
> > > > >> available and their charges.
> > > > >> 6) google recalculates the order total and
> if
> > > the
> > > > >> customer pays for the
> > > > >> order it sends you the personal details of
> the
> > > > >> customer and the customer is
> > > > >> redirected to your site.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The above steps are for level 2
> integration. I
>

=== message truncated ===

[G.Venkata Phanindra]

Hi Chris.
         Thanks for your information, i am facing problem with  conveying my
business team that it is not possible to make that User has to leave the
website and go to the Online payment services website,where can i find this
kind of information which will give me information so as to convey my
business team. i tried to make a search on web to get information that would
support this point but i failed to get any information.It will be of great
help if any one can provide me information that would substantiate the point
below

"I know we all want to treat online payments as being
the same as accepting a credit card, but it's not.  In
order for you to not know your customer's secret
information (which is the major lure of these sites)
they have to leave your site.

Credit cards go:  customer ->vendor ->credit card
processor -> bank -> credit card processor ->vendor
->customer

paypal and google checkout go: customer
->google/paypal ->credit card processor -> bank ->
credit card processor->google/paypal-
>
> >vendor->customer"


Thankas and regards

G Venkata Phanindra.

On 9/11/06, Chris Howe <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I know we all want to treat online payments as being
> the same as accepting a credit card, but it's not.  In
> order for you to not know your customer's secret
> information (which is the major lure of these sites)
> they have to leave your site.
>
> Credit cards go:  customer ->vendor ->credit card
> processor -> bank -> credit card processor ->vendor
> ->customer
>
> paypal and google checkout go: customer
> ->google/paypal ->credit card processor -> bank ->
> credit card processor->google/paypal->vendor->customer
> --- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris.
> >        I want to know can we achive paypal
> > integration with  out user going
> > out of my website.
> > Thanks and Regards
> > Phani
> >
> > On 9/11/06, Chris Howe <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > To support Google checkout, they must leave your
> > > store.  Google MANDATES that they do this.  This
> > is
> > > the reason why I have no interest in completing
> > google
> > > checkout for Ofbiz.  Google wants to be too big a
> > part
> > > of the transaction.  Most retailers only want
> > google
> > > to do their credit card processing and take
> > advantage
> > > of the AdWords discount.  Google on the other hand
> > > wants to be consumer advocate as well.  Dictating
> > how
> > > you develop your relationship with your customer.
> > > IMO All of their dealings with AOL are really
> > spoiling
> > > their culture.  They're attempting to create a
> > walled
> > > garden for google users with their services.  The
> > > difference between G and AOL is that with AOL you
> > > started out with their service and were limited to
> > > their services, with G they want the user to think
> > > that they have a choice to go outside the garden,
> > but
> > > it's simply not worthwhile to do so.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Rohit and Chris,
> > > >          I have a specific requirement with
> > google
> > > > check out integration
> > > > with ofbiz.I donnot want the customer to go out
> > of
> > > > my webstore i want the
> > > > user to provide all the information and i want
> > to
> > > > pass this information to
> > > > google and get the response from the google,
> > take
> > > > respective action
> > > > depending upon that specific response from
> > google
> > > > for this i am try ing to
> > > > use the following method specified in developers
> > > > guide
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/developer/index.html#alternative_technique
> > > > but the problem is i could not find api that is
> > > > providinng us an optioin to
> > > > pass on the user google acount information. is
> > it
> > > > possible to achive that we
> > > > pass on information to google with out actually
> > user
> > > > going to the google
> > > > check out page.
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > Phani
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/10/06, rohit2006 <[hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > google policies for sellers can be seen here.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > https://checkout.google.com/seller/policies.html
> > > > >
> > > > > more information on the checkout can be seen
> > on
> > > > this link
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/samplecode.html.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was unable to exactly find the page on the
> > work
> > > > flow, but google does
> > > > > neet
> > > > > that you unable the buyer the ability to shop
> > > > without creating an account
> > > > > on
> > > > > your store.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rohit
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > cjhowe wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The extent that I got on OFBIZ-71 is a
> > straight
> > > > > > implementation of how google is asking for
> > the
> > > > > > information.  The only information that it's
> > > > taking is
> > > > > > the info from the cart.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Perhaps
> > > > > >  List orderItems =
> > context.get("orderItems");
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  should be
> > > > > >  HttpSession session = request.getSession();
> > > > > >  ShoppingCart cart = (ShoppingCart)
> > > > > > session.getAttribute("shoppingCart");
> > > > > >  List orderItems =
> > shoppingCart.get("items");
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it google's policy that you CAN'T know
> > the
> > > > identity
> > > > > > until the order has been place or that the
> > > > option
> > > > > > should be available?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- rohit2006 <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> hi,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> before you start integrating google
> > checkout,
> > > > please
> > > > > >> be sure to go through
> > > > > >> the policies of google checkout. google
> > > > checkout is
> > > > > >> quite different than
> > > > > >> paypal and i am not sure if you can use
> > that as
> > > > a
> > > > > >> model. for eg. in google
> > > > > >> checkout personal details are shared unitil
> > the
> > > > > >> customer has clicked the
> > > > > >> order confirm button on google. Roughly the
> > > > checkout
> > > > > >> steps are the
> > > > > >> following:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 1) customer adds the products on your
> > ecommerce
> > > > > >> website.
> > > > > >> 2) customer sees the cart, which has all
> > the
> > > > > >> products added by him
> > > > > >> 3) along with your checkout button, the
> > > > customer
> > > > > >> sees a google checkout
> > > > > >> button.
> > > > > >> 4) customer clicks the google checkout and
> > is
> > > > > >> redirected to google hosted
> > > > > >> pages, your website passes all the cart
> > > > variables(
> > > > > >> item name, quantity,
> > > > > >> price etc) to google
> > > > > >> 5) customer logs in google and then google
> > > > sends you
> > > > > >> his address details
> > > > > >> like zip, country etc, and your site
> > responds
> > > > to it
> > > > > >> with shipping methods
> > > > > >> available and their charges.
> > > > > >> 6) google recalculates the order total and
> > if
> > > > the
> > > > > >> customer pays for the
> > > > > >> order it sends you the personal details of
> > the
> > > > > >> customer and the customer is
> > > > > >> redirected to your site.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The above steps are for level 2
> > integration. I
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>

--
G.Venkata Phanindra
Mob:: [phone]

[cjhowe]

Hey Phani,

I'm not sure of anywhere specifically.  I would think
the common sense approach that the only way they could
stay on your site is if they told you the information
that they shouldn't be telling you would be sufficient
for your business team.

I don't know too many customers willing to tell an
online retailer their paypayl userid and password and
then tell them which funding source they want to use.

The only way they could stay on your site is if they
told you that information, right?

--- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Chris.
>          Thanks for your information, i am facing
> problem with  conveying my
> business team that it is not possible to make that
> User has to leave the
> website and go to the Online payment services
> website,where can i find this
> kind of information which will give me information
> so as to convey my
> business team. i tried to make a search on web to
> get information that would
> support this point but i failed to get any
> information.It will be of great
> help if any one can provide me information that
> would substantiate the point
> below
>
> "I know we all want to treat online payments as
> being
> the same as accepting a credit card, but it's not.
> In
> order for you to not know your customer's secret
> information (which is the major lure of these sites)
> they have to leave your site.
>
> Credit cards go:  customer ->vendor ->credit card
> processor -> bank -> credit card processor ->vendor
> ->customer
>
> paypal and google checkout go: customer
> ->google/paypal ->credit card processor -> bank ->
> credit card processor->google/paypal-
> >
> > >vendor->customer"
>
>
> Thankas and regards
>
> G Venkata Phanindra.
>
> On 9/11/06, Chris Howe <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I know we all want to treat online payments as
> being
> > the same as accepting a credit card, but it's not.
>  In
> > order for you to not know your customer's secret
> > information (which is the major lure of these
> sites)
> > they have to leave your site.
> >
> > Credit cards go:  customer ->vendor ->credit card
> > processor -> bank -> credit card processor
> ->vendor
> > ->customer
> >
> > paypal and google checkout go: customer
> > ->google/paypal ->credit card processor -> bank ->
> > credit card
> processor->google/paypal->vendor->customer
> > --- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Chris.
> > >        I want to know can we achive paypal
> > > integration with  out user going
> > > out of my website.
> > > Thanks and Regards
> > > Phani
> > >
> > > On 9/11/06, Chris Howe <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To support Google checkout, they must leave
> your
> > > > store.  Google MANDATES that they do this.
> This
> > > is
> > > > the reason why I have no interest in
> completing
> > > google
> > > > checkout for Ofbiz.  Google wants to be too
> big a
> > > part
> > > > of the transaction.  Most retailers only want
> > > google
> > > > to do their credit card processing and take
> > > advantage
> > > > of the AdWords discount.  Google on the other
> hand
> > > > wants to be consumer advocate as well.
> Dictating
> > > how
> > > > you develop your relationship with your
> customer.
> > > > IMO All of their dealings with AOL are really
> > > spoiling
> > > > their culture.  They're attempting to create a
> > > walled
> > > > garden for google users with their services.
> The
> > > > difference between G and AOL is that with AOL
> you
> > > > started out with their service and were
> limited to
> > > > their services, with G they want the user to
> think
> > > > that they have a choice to go outside the
> garden,
> > > but
> > > > it's simply not worthwhile to do so.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- "G.Venkata Phanindra"
> <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Rohit and Chris,
> > > > >          I have a specific requirement with
> > > google
> > > > > check out integration
> > > > > with ofbiz.I donnot want the customer to go
> out
> > > of
> > > > > my webstore i want the
> > > > > user to provide all the information and i
> want
> > > to
> > > > > pass this information to
> > > > > google and get the response from the google,
> > > take
> > > > > respective action
> > > > > depending upon that specific response from
> > > google
> > > > > for this i am try ing to
> > > > > use the following method specified in
> developers
> > > > > guide
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/developer/index.html#alternative_technique

> > > > > but the problem is i could not find api that
> is
> > > > > providinng us an optioin to
> > > > > pass on the user google acount information.
> is
> > > it
> > > > > possible to achive that we
> > > > > pass on information to google with out
> actually
> > > user
> > > > > going to the google
> > > > > check out page.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards
> > > > > Phani
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/10/06, rohit2006
> <[hidden email]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > google policies for sellers can be seen
> here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > https://checkout.google.com/seller/policies.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > more information on the checkout can be
> seen
> > > on
> > > > > this link
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/samplecode.html.

> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was unable to exactly find the page on
> the
> > > work
> > > > > flow, but google does
> > > > > > neet
> > > > > > that you unable the buyer the ability to
> shop
> > > > > without creating an account
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > your store.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rohit
> > > > > >
>

=== message truncated ===

[Andrew Sykes]

Phani,

It looks like you are dealing with one of those awkward situations that
makes being the tech guy in a company so much (fun).

I have never seen anything explaining why what you are trying to achieve
is not possible in any more detail than Chris has already given you.

Perhaps the best approach is to find a load of examples of sites that
have a PayPal integration and show these in action. Often the "if none
of these guys are doing it, it can't be possible" approach is something
that non tech staff can relate to!

- Andrew


On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 08:07 -0700, Chris Howe wrote:

> Hey Phani,
>
> I'm not sure of anywhere specifically.  I would think
> the common sense approach that the only way they could
> stay on your site is if they told you the information
> that they shouldn't be telling you would be sufficient
> for your business team.
>
> I don't know too many customers willing to tell an
> online retailer their paypayl userid and password and
> then tell them which funding source they want to use.
>
> The only way they could stay on your site is if they
> told you that information, right?
>
> --- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris.
> >          Thanks for your information, i am facing
> > problem with  conveying my
> > business team that it is not possible to make that
> > User has to leave the
> > website and go to the Online payment services
> > website,where can i find this
> > kind of information which will give me information
> > so as to convey my
> > business team. i tried to make a search on web to
> > get information that would
> > support this point but i failed to get any
> > information.It will be of great
> > help if any one can provide me information that
> > would substantiate the point
> > below
> >
> > "I know we all want to treat online payments as
> > being
> > the same as accepting a credit card, but it's not.
> > In
> > order for you to not know your customer's secret
> > information (which is the major lure of these sites)
> > they have to leave your site.
> >
> > Credit cards go:  customer ->vendor ->credit card
> > processor -> bank -> credit card processor ->vendor
> > ->customer
> >
> > paypal and google checkout go: customer
> > ->google/paypal ->credit card processor -> bank ->
> > credit card processor->google/paypal-
> > >
> > > >vendor->customer"
> >
> >
> > Thankas and regards
> >
> > G Venkata Phanindra.
> >
> > On 9/11/06, Chris Howe <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I know we all want to treat online payments as
> > being
> > > the same as accepting a credit card, but it's not.
> >  In
> > > order for you to not know your customer's secret
> > > information (which is the major lure of these
> > sites)
> > > they have to leave your site.
> > >
> > > Credit cards go:  customer ->vendor ->credit card
> > > processor -> bank -> credit card processor
> > ->vendor
> > > ->customer
> > >
> > > paypal and google checkout go: customer
> > > ->google/paypal ->credit card processor -> bank ->
> > > credit card
> > processor->google/paypal->vendor->customer
> > > --- "G.Venkata Phanindra" <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Chris.
> > > >        I want to know can we achive paypal
> > > > integration with  out user going
> > > > out of my website.
> > > > Thanks and Regards
> > > > Phani
> > > >
> > > > On 9/11/06, Chris Howe <[hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > To support Google checkout, they must leave
> > your
> > > > > store.  Google MANDATES that they do this.
> > This
> > > > is
> > > > > the reason why I have no interest in
> > completing
> > > > google
> > > > > checkout for Ofbiz.  Google wants to be too
> > big a
> > > > part
> > > > > of the transaction.  Most retailers only want
> > > > google
> > > > > to do their credit card processing and take
> > > > advantage
> > > > > of the AdWords discount.  Google on the other
> > hand
> > > > > wants to be consumer advocate as well.
> > Dictating
> > > > how
> > > > > you develop your relationship with your
> > customer.
> > > > > IMO All of their dealings with AOL are really
> > > > spoiling
> > > > > their culture.  They're attempting to create a
> > > > walled
> > > > > garden for google users with their services.
> > The
> > > > > difference between G and AOL is that with AOL
> > you
> > > > > started out with their service and were
> > limited to
> > > > > their services, with G they want the user to
> > think
> > > > > that they have a choice to go outside the
> > garden,
> > > > but
> > > > > it's simply not worthwhile to do so.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- "G.Venkata Phanindra"
> > <[hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Rohit and Chris,
> > > > > >          I have a specific requirement with
> > > > google
> > > > > > check out integration
> > > > > > with ofbiz.I donnot want the customer to go
> > out
> > > > of
> > > > > > my webstore i want the
> > > > > > user to provide all the information and i
> > want
> > > > to
> > > > > > pass this information to
> > > > > > google and get the response from the google,
> > > > take
> > > > > > respective action
> > > > > > depending upon that specific response from
> > > > google
> > > > > > for this i am try ing to
> > > > > > use the following method specified in
> > developers
> > > > > > guide
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/developer/index.html#alternative_technique
> > > > > > but the problem is i could not find api that
> > is
> > > > > > providinng us an optioin to
> > > > > > pass on the user google acount information.
> > is
> > > > it
> > > > > > possible to achive that we
> > > > > > pass on information to google with out
> > actually
> > > > user
> > > > > > going to the google
> > > > > > check out page.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > > Phani
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/10/06, rohit2006
> > <[hidden email]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > google policies for sellers can be seen
> > here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > https://checkout.google.com/seller/policies.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > more information on the checkout can be
> > seen
> > > > on
> > > > > > this link
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://code.google.com/apis/checkout/samplecode.html.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was unable to exactly find the page on
> > the
> > > > work
> > > > > > flow, but google does
> > > > > > > neet
> > > > > > > that you unable the buyer the ability to
> > shop
> > > > > > without creating an account
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > your store.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rohit
> > > > > > >
> >
> === message truncated ===
>

--
Kind Regards
Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]>
Sykes Development Ltd
http://www.sykesdevelopment.com