<html-template-decorator> element

[Jacques Le Roux]

I note that in OFBiz the <html-template-decorator> element is only used once. Its usage is discouraged in OFBiz, note this comment :
"We don't really want to encourage the use of the html-template-decorator, should be done on the screen level. To include the
sections in the decorator template just use the  "render(sectionName)" method "sections" object, FTL example:
${sections.render("main")}. For more efficient use the sections.render(sectionName, writer) method should be used, in FTL this would
be in a transform or something."



So I wonder why it still exists, should we not deprecate it and later even remove it ? It's weird to me to have an element that you
discourage usage ...



Jacques

[Adrian Crum-2]

+1


--- On Sat, 6/21/08, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
> Subject: <html-template-decorator> element
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 6:49 AM
> I note that in OFBiz the <html-template-decorator>
> element is only used once. Its usage is discouraged in
> OFBiz, note this comment :
> "We don't really want to encourage the use of the
> html-template-decorator, should be done on the screen
> level. To include the
> sections in the decorator template just use the
> "render(sectionName)" method "sections"
> object, FTL example:
> ${sections.render("main")}. For more efficient
> use the sections.render(sectionName, writer) method should
> be used, in FTL this would
> be in a transform or something."
>
>
>
> So I wonder why it still exists, should we not deprecate it
> and later even remove it ? It's weird to me to have an
> element that you
> discourage usage ...
>
>
>
> Jacques

     

[David E Jones]

-1

Unless I'm missing someting... If we deprecate that then it means the  
only way to get a decorator is to split up the HTML into separate FTL  
files. That may work fine in some cases, but is an annoying limitation.

I'm also curious about what sort of harm this is causing that makes it  
a good candidate for elimination... I haven't seen anyone mention that  
yet.

-David


On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

> +1
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>
>> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: <html-template-decorator> element
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 6:49 AM
>> I note that in OFBiz the <html-template-decorator>
>> element is only used once. Its usage is discouraged in
>> OFBiz, note this comment :
>> "We don't really want to encourage the use of the
>> html-template-decorator, should be done on the screen
>> level. To include the
>> sections in the decorator template just use the
>> "render(sectionName)" method "sections"
>> object, FTL example:
>> ${sections.render("main")}. For more efficient
>> use the sections.render(sectionName, writer) method should
>> be used, in FTL this would
>> be in a transform or something."
>>
>>
>>
>> So I wonder why it still exists, should we not deprecate it
>> and later even remove it ? It's weird to me to have an
>> element that you
>> discourage usage ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Jacques
>
>
>

[Tim Ruppert]

-1

yeah - I just went thru and checked a bunch of my projects - and we're  
using this in a number of places.  Please leave this in place - as it  
IS in use.

Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595


On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:46 AM, David E Jones wrote:

>
> -1
>
> Unless I'm missing someting... If we deprecate that then it means  
> the only way to get a decorator is to split up the HTML into  
> separate FTL files. That may work fine in some cases, but is an  
> annoying limitation.
>
> I'm also curious about what sort of harm this is causing that makes  
> it a good candidate for elimination... I haven't seen anyone mention  
> that yet.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: <html-template-decorator> element
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 6:49 AM
>>> I note that in OFBiz the <html-template-decorator>
>>> element is only used once. Its usage is discouraged in
>>> OFBiz, note this comment :
>>> "We don't really want to encourage the use of the
>>> html-template-decorator, should be done on the screen
>>> level. To include the
>>> sections in the decorator template just use the
>>> "render(sectionName)" method "sections"
>>> object, FTL example:
>>> ${sections.render("main")}. For more efficient
>>> use the sections.render(sectionName, writer) method should
>>> be used, in FTL this would
>>> be in a transform or something."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So I wonder why it still exists, should we not deprecate it
>>> and later even remove it ? It's weird to me to have an
>>> element that you
>>> discourage usage ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>
>>
>>
>

[Joe Eckard]

-1

I also use this in all of my projects.

-Joe

On Jun 21, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:

> -1
>
> yeah - I just went thru and checked a bunch of my projects - and  
> we're using this in a number of places.  Please leave this in place  
> - as it IS in use.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:46 AM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> -1
>>
>> Unless I'm missing someting... If we deprecate that then it means  
>> the only way to get a decorator is to split up the HTML into  
>> separate FTL files. That may work fine in some cases, but is an  
>> annoying limitation.
>>
>> I'm also curious about what sort of harm this is causing that makes  
>> it a good candidate for elimination... I haven't seen anyone  
>> mention that yet.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Jacques Le Roux  
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>>> Subject: <html-template-decorator> element
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 6:49 AM
>>>> I note that in OFBiz the <html-template-decorator>
>>>> element is only used once. Its usage is discouraged in
>>>> OFBiz, note this comment :
>>>> "We don't really want to encourage the use of the
>>>> html-template-decorator, should be done on the screen
>>>> level. To include the
>>>> sections in the decorator template just use the
>>>> "render(sectionName)" method "sections"
>>>> object, FTL example:
>>>> ${sections.render("main")}. For more efficient
>>>> use the sections.render(sectionName, writer) method should
>>>> be used, in FTL this would
>>>> be in a transform or something."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I wonder why it still exists, should we not deprecate it
>>>> and later even remove it ? It's weird to me to have an
>>>> element that you
>>>> discourage usage ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

OK, thank to all of you. I was just wondering.

Jacques

From: "Joe Eckard" <[hidden email]>

> -1
>
> I also use this in all of my projects.
>
> -Joe
>
> On Jun 21, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
>
>> -1
>>
>> yeah - I just went thru and checked a bunch of my projects - and  
>> we're using this in a number of places.  Please leave this in place  
>> - as it IS in use.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>>
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:46 AM, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> -1
>>>
>>> Unless I'm missing someting... If we deprecate that then it means  
>>> the only way to get a decorator is to split up the HTML into  
>>> separate FTL files. That may work fine in some cases, but is an  
>>> annoying limitation.
>>>
>>> I'm also curious about what sort of harm this is causing that makes  
>>> it a good candidate for elimination... I haven't seen anyone  
>>> mention that yet.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Jacques Le Roux  
>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Subject: <html-template-decorator> element
>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>> Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 6:49 AM
>>>>> I note that in OFBiz the <html-template-decorator>
>>>>> element is only used once. Its usage is discouraged in
>>>>> OFBiz, note this comment :
>>>>> "We don't really want to encourage the use of the
>>>>> html-template-decorator, should be done on the screen
>>>>> level. To include the
>>>>> sections in the decorator template just use the
>>>>> "render(sectionName)" method "sections"
>>>>> object, FTL example:
>>>>> ${sections.render("main")}. For more efficient
>>>>> use the sections.render(sectionName, writer) method should
>>>>> be used, in FTL this would
>>>>> be in a transform or something."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I wonder why it still exists, should we not deprecate it
>>>>> and later even remove it ? It's weird to me to have an
>>>>> element that you
>>>>> discourage usage ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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