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Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
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Key: OFBIZ-510
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
Issue Type: Improvement
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: Tim Ruppert

So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.

Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:

1. Personal Info
2. Shipping Address
3. Shipping Options
4. Payment Options
5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
6. Review Order
7. Order Confirmation

We are going to shorten it up this way:

1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
2. Shippint Options
3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
5. Order Confirmation

This would be the end of this patch.

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Tim Ruppert commented on OFBIZ-510:
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Preview of Phase #3:

Keep in mind that all of these steps are after the shopping cart and quantity change page. Ultimately I'd like it to look like this - including the Shopping Cart portion:

1. Shopping Cart & Calculate Shipping
2. Customer Details (Personal Information / Shipping Address / Billing Address)
3. Review & Place Order (assuming credit card only for this example) - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
4. Order Confirmation

My final goal after phase three would be to see a checkout process that resembled what I did for one of my customers back in the day - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

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Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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Daniel Kunkel commented on OFBIZ-510:
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Hi Tim

This sounds great. A couple of ideas that may be worth considering:

1.) What do you think of supporting registered customers by comingling the login with the customer details. If the customer has an account, they can just put in username/email and a password vs having to fill in all the other data.

2.) Would it work to have a "other payment options" and or a radio list of the payment options on the Review page that would step through an optional payment page. It would seem that this would be very simple for credit card orders, and yet support other payment methods for companies that want to use this checkout system, but need to accept other forms of payment besides credit cards.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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Tim Ruppert commented on OFBIZ-510:
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Daniel, I will look into this stuff later today / tonite - thanks for responding so quickly.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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Tim Ruppert commented on OFBIZ-510:
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FYI - http://twpinc.insourcery.com has changed to http://twpjsp.hotwaxmedia.com for anyone who was lookin'

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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Tim Ruppert updated OFBIZ-510:
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Attachment: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch

This is MUCH shorter anonymous checkout process that should really make everyone happy out there who's been laboring thru it all this time. The review page with the integrated Credit Card portion is done in AJAX with the Dojo toolkit on the front end and JSON on the backend.

Thanks to Anil & Ashish for their part in helping this process along.

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12458325 ]

Tim Ruppert commented on OFBIZ-510:
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We are planning on doing the next step - pushing the Shipping Estimator out to the Shopping Cart immediately following this - but it's unclear how many people would actually want this in their application as it requires a commercial web service to translate from Zip Code to enough of an address for UPS estimates (which is what my customer is looking for).

We'd be happy to share, but I doubt this will make it back in it's entirety.

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12458326 ]

Chris Howe commented on OFBIZ-510:
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I'm interested in checking this out. Before I set aside some time. If Javascript is turned of in the user's browser, will this continue with the old mechanism of anonymous checkout?

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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Tim Ruppert commented on OFBIZ-510:
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It's 100% AJAX in the way it handles the multiple payment types on the Review Order Screen. That being said, there's always the old checkout process (or even the current one with all of it's steps) for people who are concerned about the non-JavaScript using customers :)

I will check this out later this evening as well and report back.

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12458406 ]

Tim Ruppert commented on OFBIZ-510:
-----------------------------------

Chris, to your point, I figured I'd go ahead and check out what _does_ happen when there's no JavaScript enabled.

I turned off JavaScript in Safari, and then went to a local install and I couldn't even put anything in the cart!! Then I went to JIRA to answer this comment - and I couldn't add a comment!! So, I'm hoping that this isn't a requirement or we're pretty screwed :)

Anybody get a chance to check this out ? What do we think?

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12458445 ]

Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-510:
---------------------------------------

I think that this is a crucial point. Is DOJO able to "degrade" (what does that mean exactly, I'm not sure) ? Please see Chris's post on dev ML

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12458496 ]

Tim Ruppert commented on OFBIZ-510:
-----------------------------------

What Chris is getting at with the question of what happens if JavaScript is turned off is wondering if the checkout process would then not function correctly because of no JavaScript - and the answer is no it does not work.

My last comment though was meant to underscore the fact that unless they turned off JavaScript while they were in the checkout process, they could not get to the checkout process because JavaScript is needed to purchase the products. Try buying something from "Featured Products", with the direct "Add to Cart" link, with JavaScript turned off and you'll see what I mean.

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12458501 ]

Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-510:
---------------------------------------

Thanks Chris,

However Chris's mail in dev ML I was referring to was :

<<I'm not sure about the other toolkits, but when I
looked around for some implementation ideas, I like
the fact that one of Dojo's precepts is to degrade
when not JS is turned off. This may be true of other
toolkits as well, but Dojo states it specifically>

So my question was (I don't know Dojo) what means exactly "degrade" here. Is there an existing mechanism in DOjo that help (may be used?) to switch operations without js if js is not present ?

Anyway I guess we must think about people not haing js on their machines (future pocket machine ?) or even don't want to let js interfere (has turned if off)...

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12458503 ]

Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-510:
---------------------------------------

Tim,

Please forget it Chris has well explained "degrade" in the sense Dojo uses it in his last mail in dev ML. I was thinking of something more automatic, surely a dream ;o) But the concept is interesting...

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12458506 ]

Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-510:
---------------------------------------

Sorry Tim,

In my 06:59AM comment above I was meaning "Thanks Tim" (of course ;o)

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12459099 ]

Chris Howe commented on OFBIZ-510:
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I finally had a chance to thoroughly review this patch and it looks very nice. I really like the effort of consolidating the checkout process but at the same time keeping those pages from being too busy.

The patch really feels like it's trying to accomplish two seperate things though, a screen consolidation and then an ajax implementation. I have a bit of constructive criticism on both. Let me address them separately.

Screen consolidation:
There is rewrite of sorts for CustomerEvents.xml. I'm not sure the reason or need for this. Many people utilize those simple methods and changing their functionality and their method names would most likely break anyone's deployment that utilizes ecommerce. Perhaps a better approach would be to break up the existing simple methods into smaller chuncks where the parent method is calling the smaller chunks. For instnace

myMethod
a
b
c

turns into:
myMethod
calls methodA
calls methodB
calls methodC

methodA
...

methodB
...

methodC
...

then you can utilize the chunks you need to accomplish your tasks and won't interfere with others.

A similar thing was occurring with OrderScreens.xml. You shouldn't remove/change a screen that someone else may be using. Create your new screen(s) and simply change the controller.xml to point to it instead. Then in a later effort a cleanup can be done. This helps keep the component customizable and functional with simple changes.

AJAX implementation:
While this works well, it appears to be very unnecessary. The async call is specifically what is keeping this from having the potential to degrade. This same effect can be accomplished with just javascript in a visible/invisible dynamically changing of the css class for the div. You're having the client download a 150+KB JS framework in order to potentially save them from downloading 5-7KB of html.

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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Anil K Patel commented on OFBIZ-510:
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Chris,
The createUpdateUser method in CustomeEvents.xml file is doing same thing what has been done at three other places. While working on this I created issue, Please refer to http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-512 for some information that I have documented. With time I wish to break it down into smaller methods as you suggested (at a point in development it was like collection of method calls) and move this method and related view components to Party component. Hopefully this refactoring consolidate party management methods. I will appreciate your feedback in this effort. I personally find create Party/Customer/Employee etc screens in Party manager are very unfriendly.

In the Order review screen related code. It is very easy to add new files. I thought it will to add more maintenance. In this whole task, more time is spent on cleanup then really adding new functionality.

Ajax Implementation, Please correct If I am not wrong, the javascript framework file will be chached by the browser, So it should be one time load. If other section of ecommerce site decided to use it, we can take advantage of this 150Kb download. I see ajax getting used for improving user shopping experience and not just checkout process.

In the final order review screen, the Payment form is processed async and finally order is sibmitted only if payment process is completed.

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12459105 ]

Chris Howe commented on OFBIZ-510:
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It makes it a lot easier to review issues/patches if the patches are submitted to the issue that they belong. If an issue is blocking the progress of another issue bring it to the committers attention. I'm looking at CustomerEvents.xml and custsettings.ftl now because they seem to be OFBIZ-512. If I can figure it out, I'll post my reply there.

My point on the async call is that you're not gaining anything for this case over an approach that loads the data the first time around. You're simply complicating the issue in order to use a buzzword. If and when you do come across a scenario that would benefit from the async call, I think it would be more efficient to use the approach in OFBIZ-411 in whether or not to make dojo.js available to a page.

If you're itching to use dojo for the checkout screens, I would think the wizzard widget would be a much cleaner and user friendly route to take.

Do you think it would be possible for you to outline what actual issue each file that is changed is in regards to? This would make it a lot faster to get through.

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510?page=comments#action_12459106 ]

Tim Ruppert commented on OFBIZ-510:
-----------------------------------

Chris, thanks for taking the time to review this so carefully - it's nice to have people sanity checking these issues.

Now, I'm going to have to disagree with you on the Screen consolidation issues. You must not have looked at the last patch very closely that got committed - this is an entirely NEW checkout process that's being created in hopes to make it MUCH easier for people to customize this process in the future. This is somethng that the community has been pining for for a long time and I'm really stoked that we're going to be able to give that to them.

That being said, things change in OFBiz all the time - and unless you blindly updating without watching what is changing in the project, then you should be able to follow how things are evolving. And that's just my point, this process is evolving - and AJAX happens to be something that's time has come. I agree that for this particular piece of functionality, there is a possibility to do this without using AJAX, but this is one step in a further evolution of making the usage of the OFBiz eCommerce app much cleaner - and that will probably include some work done with an AJAX toolkit.

I think it's a little lame to be sticking it to people and saying that someone's complicating the issue in order to use a buzzword. A lot of work has been done to make this process better for the community at large - and there are potentially other tactics to use other than slamming someone for their choices. This happens to be a place that does not benefit directly, but as it becomes a part of a larger process that's being revamped, you may indeed see the benefit.

Let's get a vote together sometime soon.

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.

Nicolas Malin (Jira)

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-510) Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2

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Anil K Patel commented on OFBIZ-510:
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I never said that this patch includes work that belongs to other issue. In accordance with what you said regarding adding more code and files so we don't break other function I added this extra method in this file. Eventually this this method can be used to replace other the other methods that exists in Ofbiz that do something similar. One of the other bad thing about this code is it just almost replicates method that already exists in the same file. If you look at the code in createCustomer method, its almost replica of createUser method that exists in Party component. I have documented these things in the Issue Ofbiz-512. All this code is result of general practice of adding new things and not removing old stuff and creating redundent code. Yes I have added redundancy, Just to prove my good intentions I have also created a Jira Issue to discuss the problem and find a better solution to fix the problem.

Processing Payment using async call is lot friendly then doing a full page submit. In the next step we are planning to offer async shipping estimate to user as first step of checkout. While we are contributing our work for review to the community, people can definitely use little polite words to express their ideas.

> Anonymous Checkout Refactoring [ ecommerce ] Part #2
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-510
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510
> Project: OFBiz (The Open for Business Project)
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Reporter: Tim Ruppert
> Attachments: 3stepAnonCheckoutWithAjax.patch
>
>
> So, now that we're close to completing the Anonymous Checkout Refactoring Part #1, we are going on to the second phase out of three, which is intended to make the checkout process even more succint. The final goal is to do something like I did for one of my customers - http://twpinc.insourcery.com . This is an old site and is being replaced, so don't worry about the other functionality - just walk thru the checkout process.
> Currently we have a long process that contains these functions / screens:
> 1. Personal Info
> 2. Shipping Address
> 3. Shipping Options
> 4. Payment Options
> 5. Payment Information (and Billing Address)
> 6. Review Order
> 7. Order Confirmation
> We are going to shorten it up this way:
> 1. Personal Info / Shipping Address / Billing Address - with the appropriate error handling and the check box & action Billing same as shipping)
> 2. Shippint Options
> 3. Payment Options (if necessary - skip if you only have credit card - or only one option in general)
> 4. Review & Place Order - enter the credit card right here - put error handling here as well
> 5. Order Confirmation
> This would be the end of this patch.