mailing list moderation

[davidnwelton]

Hi guys,

I have been doing OFBiz mailing list moderation for a while (along
with the ubiquitous David Jones), but now that you're your own top
level project, I would really like to let someone else take my place.

Also, I think it would be wise to decide on a policy for moderation as
a group.  David J seems to be of the idea to not accept messages from
non-subscribers, which is fine, but at that point perhaps we could
simply let the mailing list software do the job?  I guess you'd have
to ask the infrastructure team as well...

--
David N. Welton
 - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/

Linux, Open Source Consulting
 - http://www.dedasys.com/

[Jacques Le Roux]

David (W), all,

Letting the ML soft doing the job is fine to me. If we see problems we might change this policy afterwards...

Jacques

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Welton" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:47 AM
Subject: mailing list moderation

> Hi guys,
>
> I have been doing OFBiz mailing list moderation for a while (along
> with the ubiquitous David Jones), but now that you're your own top
> level project, I would really like to let someone else take my place.
>
> Also, I think it would be wise to decide on a policy for moderation as
> a group.  David J seems to be of the idea to not accept messages from
> non-subscribers, which is fine, but at that point perhaps we could
> simply let the mailing list software do the job?  I guess you'd have
> to ask the infrastructure team as well...
>
> --
> David N. Welton
>  - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
>
> Linux, Open Source Consulting
>  - http://www.dedasys.com/

[Jacopo Cappellato]

Today I'm going to solicit help from the Infrastructure guys to complete
the migration out of Incubator.
Since we are still waiting for the creation of the new mailing lists, I
think that it would be a good moment to ask for these changes by adding
a comment here:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1075

Jacopo


Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> David (W), all,
>
> Letting the ML soft doing the job is fine to me. If we see problems we might change this policy afterwards...
>
> Jacques
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Welton" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:47 AM
> Subject: mailing list moderation
>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I have been doing OFBiz mailing list moderation for a while (along
>> with the ubiquitous David Jones), but now that you're your own top
>> level project, I would really like to let someone else take my place.
>>
>> Also, I think it would be wise to decide on a policy for moderation as
>> a group.  David J seems to be of the idea to not accept messages from
>> non-subscribers, which is fine, but at that point perhaps we could
>> simply let the mailing list software do the job?  I guess you'd have
>> to ask the infrastructure team as well...
>>
>> --
>> David N. Welton
>>  - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
>>
>> Linux, Open Source Consulting
>>  - http://www.dedasys.com/

[David E Jones-2]

It would certainly save work to have the mailing list software send  
out a certain message whenever anyone is not subscribed, and I have a  
stock letter (included below) that I use just for this.

Still, I like the idea of moderating because as David W. mentioned  
when we discussed this a long time ago there are good reasons for  
someone not subscribed to the list to be able to post. What I usually  
do now is look at the question or comment and see if it is likely to  
lead to discussion or to further questions, or if it is more likely  
to be a one-off sort of thing like a "please contact me [here] if you  
are interested in [this]", where this is often some paid work to be  
done, something non-core to the project, etc.

So, we may want to hold off on this as such messages can be important.

-David


On Jan 2, 2007, at 2:47 AM, David Welton wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I have been doing OFBiz mailing list moderation for a while (along
> with the ubiquitous David Jones), but now that you're your own top
> level project, I would really like to let someone else take my place.
>
> Also, I think it would be wise to decide on a policy for moderation as
> a group.  David J seems to be of the idea to not accept messages from
> non-subscribers, which is fine, but at that point perhaps we could
> simply let the mailing list software do the job?  I guess you'd have
> to ask the infrastructure team as well...
>
> --
> David N. Welton
> - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
>
> Linux, Open Source Consulting
> - http://www.dedasys.com/

=========================================
User's List Moderated Message
=========================================
%%% Start comment
This question is a good one to send to this list, but it appears that  
the email address you sent this from is not subscribed to the list.  
Except for cases where someone wants a question answered off the  
list, we request that people subscribe to the mailing list and keep  
replies and such in public as much as possible. Moderating messages  
from non-subscribed addresses also helps us pretty much eliminate  
spam on the lists.

For details about the list and subscription (including the email  
addresses to send a message to in order to subscribe, unsubscribe,  
etc) please see this web page:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ofbiz-user/

-David
%%% End comment
=========================================
%%% Start comment
This question is a good one, but should be sent to the user list  
instead of the dev list. It appears that the email address you sent  
this from is not subscribed to this list. Except for cases where  
someone wants a question answered off the list, we request that  
people subscribe to the mailing list and keep replies and such in  
public as much as possible. Moderating messages from non-subscribed  
addresses also helps us pretty much eliminate spam on the lists.

If you are not subscribed to the ofbiz-user mailing list please  
subscribe before sending your message there. For details about the  
list and subscription (including the email addresses to send a  
message to in order to subscribe, unsubscribe, etc) please see this  
web page:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ofbiz-user/

-David
%%% End comment
=========================================
%%% Start comment
Administrative requests should go to special addresses and not the  
main mailing list address.

For details on these special addresses, please see:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ofbiz-user/

You can also find these in the headers of every email sent to you  
from the list.

To unsubscribe from this list simply send an email to to following  
address from your email address subscribed to the list:

[hidden email]

-David
%%% End comment
=========================================

[Andrew Sykes]

David,

I'll happily help with this if you need some help.

- Andrew

On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 11:17 -0700, David E Jones wrote:

> It would certainly save work to have the mailing list software send  
> out a certain message whenever anyone is not subscribed, and I have a  
> stock letter (included below) that I use just for this.
>
> Still, I like the idea of moderating because as David W. mentioned  
> when we discussed this a long time ago there are good reasons for  
> someone not subscribed to the list to be able to post. What I usually  
> do now is look at the question or comment and see if it is likely to  
> lead to discussion or to further questions, or if it is more likely  
> to be a one-off sort of thing like a "please contact me [here] if you  
> are interested in [this]", where this is often some paid work to be  
> done, something non-core to the project, etc.
>
> So, we may want to hold off on this as such messages can be important.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2007, at 2:47 AM, David Welton wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I have been doing OFBiz mailing list moderation for a while (along
> > with the ubiquitous David Jones), but now that you're your own top
> > level project, I would really like to let someone else take my place.
> >
> > Also, I think it would be wise to decide on a policy for moderation as
> > a group.  David J seems to be of the idea to not accept messages from
> > non-subscribers, which is fine, but at that point perhaps we could
> > simply let the mailing list software do the job?  I guess you'd have
> > to ask the infrastructure team as well...
> >
> > --
> > David N. Welton
> > - http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
> >
> > Linux, Open Source Consulting
> > - http://www.dedasys.com/
>
>
> =========================================
> User's List Moderated Message
> =========================================
> %%% Start comment
> This question is a good one to send to this list, but it appears that  
> the email address you sent this from is not subscribed to the list.  
> Except for cases where someone wants a question answered off the  
> list, we request that people subscribe to the mailing list and keep  
> replies and such in public as much as possible. Moderating messages  
> from non-subscribed addresses also helps us pretty much eliminate  
> spam on the lists.
>
> For details about the list and subscription (including the email  
> addresses to send a message to in order to subscribe, unsubscribe,  
> etc) please see this web page:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ofbiz-user/
>
> -David
> %%% End comment
> =========================================
> %%% Start comment
> This question is a good one, but should be sent to the user list  
> instead of the dev list. It appears that the email address you sent  
> this from is not subscribed to this list. Except for cases where  
> someone wants a question answered off the list, we request that  
> people subscribe to the mailing list and keep replies and such in  
> public as much as possible. Moderating messages from non-subscribed  
> addresses also helps us pretty much eliminate spam on the lists.
>
> If you are not subscribed to the ofbiz-user mailing list please  
> subscribe before sending your message there. For details about the  
> list and subscription (including the email addresses to send a  
> message to in order to subscribe, unsubscribe, etc) please see this  
> web page:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ofbiz-user/
>
> -David
> %%% End comment
> =========================================
> %%% Start comment
> Administrative requests should go to special addresses and not the  
> main mailing list address.
>
> For details on these special addresses, please see:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ofbiz-user/
>
> You can also find these in the headers of every email sent to you  
> from the list.
>
> To unsubscribe from this list simply send an email to to following  
> address from your email address subscribed to the list:
>
> [hidden email]
>
> -David
> %%% End comment
> =========================================
>

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Kind Regards
Andrew Sykes <[hidden email]>
Sykes Development Ltd
http://www.sykesdevelopment.com