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manufacturing component missing production planning

hans_bakker
We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing companies.

In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed assets but
they are not connected to the accounting system or asset maintenance.

What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs looking at
the last possible finish date and the available fixed assets
(machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.

Question to the community:
Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
manufacturing?

Regards,
Hans
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c.schinzer-2
Hello hans,

I have similar requests. Not as deep into it and I shall know more after next week.
Ready to help :)
Regards

Carsten
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We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing companies.

In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed assets but
they are not connected to the accounting system or asset maintenance.

What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs looking at
the last possible finish date and the available fixed assets
(machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.

Question to the community:
Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
manufacturing?

Regards,
Hans

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Adrian Crum-3
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What do you mean "there are fixed assets but they are not connected to
the accounting system or asset maintenance"? Fixed assets are
"connected" to both.

-Adrian

On 4/10/2013 6:59 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
> companies.
>
> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed assets
> but they are not connected to the accounting system or asset maintenance.
>
> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs looking
> at the last possible finish date and the available fixed assets
> (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>
> Question to the community:
> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
> manufacturing?
>
> Regards,
> Hans

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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

hans_bakker
please look at:
https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz
where you can enter fixed asset types without a fixed asset id.

Regards,
Hans

On 04/10/2013 02:12 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:

> What do you mean "there are fixed assets but they are not connected to
> the accounting system or asset maintenance"? Fixed assets are
> "connected" to both.
>
> -Adrian
>
> On 4/10/2013 6:59 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
>> companies.
>>
>> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
>> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed assets
>> but they are not connected to the accounting system or asset
>> maintenance.
>>
>> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs looking
>> at the last possible finish date and the available fixed assets
>> (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>>
>> Question to the community:
>> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
>> manufacturing?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>

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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

Adrian Crum-3
What does that have to do with accounting or asset maintenance?

-Adrian

On 4/10/2013 8:30 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> please look at:
> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz 
>
> where you can enter fixed asset types without a fixed asset id.
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On 04/10/2013 02:12 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> What do you mean "there are fixed assets but they are not connected
>> to the accounting system or asset maintenance"? Fixed assets are
>> "connected" to both.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> On 4/10/2013 6:59 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
>>> companies.
>>>
>>> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
>>> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed assets
>>> but they are not connected to the accounting system or asset
>>> maintenance.
>>>
>>> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs
>>> looking at the last possible finish date and the available fixed
>>> assets (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>>>
>>> Question to the community:
>>> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
>>> manufacturing?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>
>

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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

hans_bakker
Hi Adrian,

What are fixed assets in manufacturing:  they are machines, tools etc
owned by the manufacturer and available in limited quantities.

In order to be sure that these assets which are used in a production run
are available at the time the production run is operating and  that they
are registered in accounting for depreciation and that they are
maintained in asset maintenance.

you do not see that connection?

when not, can you tell me the difference between the fixed assets in
manufacturing and the ones in accounting?

Regards,
Hans



On 04/10/2013 02:36 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:

> What does that have to do with accounting or asset maintenance?
>
> -Adrian
>
> On 4/10/2013 8:30 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> please look at:
>> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz 
>>
>> where you can enter fixed asset types without a fixed asset id.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>>
>> On 04/10/2013 02:12 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>> What do you mean "there are fixed assets but they are not connected
>>> to the accounting system or asset maintenance"? Fixed assets are
>>> "connected" to both.
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>> On 4/10/2013 6:59 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
>>>> companies.
>>>>
>>>> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
>>>> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed
>>>> assets but they are not connected to the accounting system or asset
>>>> maintenance.
>>>>
>>>> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs
>>>> looking at the last possible finish date and the available fixed
>>>> assets (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>>>>
>>>> Question to the community:
>>>> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
>>>> manufacturing?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hans
>>>
>>
>

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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

Adrian Crum-3
I know what fixed assets are. OFBiz does all of the things you describe.

The screen in your link has nothing to do with accounting or asset
maintenance. So, I don't understand how it demonstrates that fixed
assets are not connected to accounting or asset maintenance.

-Adrian

On 4/10/2013 8:52 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
>
> What are fixed assets in manufacturing:  they are machines, tools etc
> owned by the manufacturer and available in limited quantities.
>
> In order to be sure that these assets which are used in a production
> run are available at the time the production run is operating and  
> that they are registered in accounting for depreciation and that they
> are maintained in asset maintenance.
>
> you do not see that connection?
>
> when not, can you tell me the difference between the fixed assets in
> manufacturing and the ones in accounting?
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
>
>
> On 04/10/2013 02:36 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> What does that have to do with accounting or asset maintenance?
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> On 4/10/2013 8:30 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>> please look at:
>>> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz 
>>>
>>> where you can enter fixed asset types without a fixed asset id.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> On 04/10/2013 02:12 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>> What do you mean "there are fixed assets but they are not connected
>>>> to the accounting system or asset maintenance"? Fixed assets are
>>>> "connected" to both.
>>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On 4/10/2013 6:59 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
>>>>> companies.
>>>>>
>>>>> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
>>>>> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed
>>>>> assets but they are not connected to the accounting system or
>>>>> asset maintenance.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs
>>>>> looking at the last possible finish date and the available fixed
>>>>> assets (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question to the community:
>>>>> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
>>>>> manufacturing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

hans_bakker
Adrian, we link fixed assets between the applications with the fixed
asset Id?
can we agree on that?

can you tell me where the fixed asset id is which I can select on this
screen?
https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz 


perhaps i missed it, can you tell me where it is?

Regards,
Hans

On 04/10/2013 03:01 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:

> I know what fixed assets are. OFBiz does all of the things you describe.
>
> The screen in your link has nothing to do with accounting or asset
> maintenance. So, I don't understand how it demonstrates that fixed
> assets are not connected to accounting or asset maintenance.
>
> -Adrian
>
> On 4/10/2013 8:52 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> Hi Adrian,
>>
>> What are fixed assets in manufacturing:  they are machines, tools etc
>> owned by the manufacturer and available in limited quantities.
>>
>> In order to be sure that these assets which are used in a production
>> run are available at the time the production run is operating and  
>> that they are registered in accounting for depreciation and that they
>> are maintained in asset maintenance.
>>
>> you do not see that connection?
>>
>> when not, can you tell me the difference between the fixed assets in
>> manufacturing and the ones in accounting?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/10/2013 02:36 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>> What does that have to do with accounting or asset maintenance?
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>> On 4/10/2013 8:30 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>> please look at:
>>>> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz 
>>>>
>>>> where you can enter fixed asset types without a fixed asset id.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>> On 04/10/2013 02:12 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>> What do you mean "there are fixed assets but they are not
>>>>> connected to the accounting system or asset maintenance"? Fixed
>>>>> assets are "connected" to both.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/10/2013 6:59 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>>> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
>>>>>> companies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
>>>>>> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed
>>>>>> assets but they are not connected to the accounting system or
>>>>>> asset maintenance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs
>>>>>> looking at the last possible finish date and the available fixed
>>>>>> assets (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question to the community:
>>>>>> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
>>>>>> manufacturing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Hans
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Adrian Crum-3
That appears to be a UI problem. Or maybe you're not understanding what
the screen does.

-Adrian

On 4/10/2013 9:06 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> Adrian, we link fixed assets between the applications with the fixed
> asset Id?
> can we agree on that?
>
> can you tell me where the fixed asset id is which I can select on this
> screen?
> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz 
>
>
> perhaps i missed it, can you tell me where it is?
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On 04/10/2013 03:01 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> I know what fixed assets are. OFBiz does all of the things you describe.
>>
>> The screen in your link has nothing to do with accounting or asset
>> maintenance. So, I don't understand how it demonstrates that fixed
>> assets are not connected to accounting or asset maintenance.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> On 4/10/2013 8:52 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>> Hi Adrian,
>>>
>>> What are fixed assets in manufacturing:  they are machines, tools
>>> etc owned by the manufacturer and available in limited quantities.
>>>
>>> In order to be sure that these assets which are used in a production
>>> run are available at the time the production run is operating and  
>>> that they are registered in accounting for depreciation and that
>>> they are maintained in asset maintenance.
>>>
>>> you do not see that connection?
>>>
>>> when not, can you tell me the difference between the fixed assets in
>>> manufacturing and the ones in accounting?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/10/2013 02:36 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>> What does that have to do with accounting or asset maintenance?
>>>>
>>>> -Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On 4/10/2013 8:30 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>> please look at:
>>>>> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz 
>>>>>
>>>>> where you can enter fixed asset types without a fixed asset id.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Hans
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/10/2013 02:12 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>> What do you mean "there are fixed assets but they are not
>>>>>> connected to the accounting system or asset maintenance"? Fixed
>>>>>> assets are "connected" to both.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/10/2013 6:59 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>>>> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for
>>>>>>> manufacturing companies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for
>>>>>>> the production planning which is missing. Further there are
>>>>>>> fixed assets but they are not connected to the accounting system
>>>>>>> or asset maintenance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs
>>>>>>> looking at the last possible finish date and the available fixed
>>>>>>> assets (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question to the community:
>>>>>>> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
>>>>>>> manufacturing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Hans
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

hans_bakker
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see inline.....

we talk about:
https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz 


On 04/10/2013 03:01 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> The screen in your link has nothing to do with accounting or asset
> maintenance.

can you tell me what the difference is between the fixed asset on this
screen and the one in accounting?
they are not related? A machine in a manufacturing run is not related to
the same machine in accounting fixed asset?

regards,
Hans
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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

Jacopo Cappellato-4
The idea of that screen is that you do not have to specify the exact fixed asset when you define a routing; instead you specify the "class of assets" that can be used for the task: this is the reason you see the type and not the id.

Jacopo

On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Hans Bakker <[hidden email]> wrote:

> see inline.....
>
> we talk about:
> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz 
>
> On 04/10/2013 03:01 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> The screen in your link has nothing to do with accounting or asset maintenance.
>
> can you tell me what the difference is between the fixed asset on this screen and the one in accounting?
> they are not related? A machine in a manufacturing run is not related to the same machine in accounting fixed asset?
>
> regards,
> Hans

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hans_bakker
Thank you jacopo, since you are the original developer of the
manufacturing component, could you comment on my original posting?

Regards,
hans

On 04/10/2013 04:39 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> The idea of that screen is that you do not have to specify the exact fixed asset when you define a routing; instead you specify the "class of assets" that can be used for the task: this is the reason you see the type and not the id.
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Hans Bakker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> see inline.....
>>
>> we talk about:
>> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz
>>
>> On 04/10/2013 03:01 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>> The screen in your link has nothing to do with accounting or asset maintenance.
>> can you tell me what the difference is between the fixed asset on this screen and the one in accounting?
>> they are not related? A machine in a manufacturing run is not related to the same machine in accounting fixed asset?
>>
>> regards,
>> Hans

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Jacopo Cappellato-4
I did not design or implement the job shop and the asset planning/scheduling part (including routings and tasks) of the component, that is the focus of your post.

Jacopo

On Apr 11, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Hans Bakker <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you jacopo, since you are the original developer of the manufacturing component, could you comment on my original posting?
>
> Regards,
> hans
>
> On 04/10/2013 04:39 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> The idea of that screen is that you do not have to specify the exact fixed asset when you define a routing; instead you specify the "class of assets" that can be used for the task: this is the reason you see the type and not the id.
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Hans Bakker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> see inline.....
>>>
>>> we talk about:
>>> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz
>>>
>>> On 04/10/2013 03:01 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>> The screen in your link has nothing to do with accounting or asset maintenance.
>>> can you tell me what the difference is between the fixed asset on this screen and the one in accounting?
>>> they are not related? A machine in a manufacturing run is not related to the same machine in accounting fixed asset?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Hans
>

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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

Paul Foxworthy
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Hear, hear!

Hans, this is a feature not a bug. As you define a task, you want to specify a fixed asset type that is required, not a specific asset. The specific allocation of a fixed asset to a task should be part of the scheduling of the task, and if it's rescheduled the allocation can and maybe should change.

Cheers

Paul Foxworthy

Jacopo Cappellato-4 wrote
The idea of that screen is that you do not have to specify the exact fixed asset when you define a routing; instead you specify the "class of assets" that can be used for the task: this is the reason you see the type and not the id.

Jacopo

On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Hans Bakker <[hidden email]> wrote:

> see inline.....
>
> we talk about:
> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz 
>
> On 04/10/2013 03:01 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> The screen in your link has nothing to do with accounting or asset maintenance.
>
> can you tell me what the difference is between the fixed asset on this screen and the one in accounting?
> they are not related? A machine in a manufacturing run is not related to the same machine in accounting fixed asset?
>
> regards,
> Hans
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Paul Foxworthy
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Hi Hans,

I think the entity you may be looking for is WorkEffortFixedAssetAssign.

Cheers

Paul Foxworthy

hans_bakker wrote
Thank you jacopo, since you are the original developer of the
manufacturing component, could you comment on my original posting?

Regards,
hans

On 04/10/2013 04:39 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> The idea of that screen is that you do not have to specify the exact fixed asset when you define a routing; instead you specify the "class of assets" that can be used for the task: this is the reason you see the type and not the id.
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Hans Bakker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> see inline.....
>>
>> we talk about:
>> https://backend.ofbizdemo.com/manufacturing/control/EditRoutingTaskFixedAssets?workEffortId=TASK02&USERNAME=admin&PASSWORD=ofbiz
>>
>> On 04/10/2013 03:01 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>> The screen in your link has nothing to do with accounting or asset maintenance.
>> can you tell me what the difference is between the fixed asset on this screen and the one in accounting?
>> they are not related? A machine in a manufacturing run is not related to the same machine in accounting fixed asset?
>>
>> regards,
>> Hans
--
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Bonsai ERP, the all-inclusive ERP system
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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

hans_bakker
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To answer my own question for future reference:

currently manufacturing job scheduling is not part of OFBiz.

alternative open source job schedulers are:
http://www.frepple.com/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openworkbench/
http://www.taskjuggler.org/

to which OFBiz could interface

There is also no link between fixed assets in manufacturing and the
fixed assets in accounting/asset maintenance, for the scheduler and for
fixed asset maintenance that would be an advantage (amount of time the
fixed asset was used)

Regards,
Hans


On 04/10/2013 12:59 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
> companies.
>
> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed assets
> but they are not connected to the accounting system or asset maintenance.
>
> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs looking
> at the last possible finish date and the available fixed assets
> (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>
> Question to the community:
> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
> manufacturing?
>
> Regards,
> Hans

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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

Jacques Le Roux
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Hi Hans,

I guess you refer to something different/more than the functionalities Quartz provides?
http://quartz-scheduler.org/

Else, we already discussed that and Quartz has until now been the preferred possible replacement for the current job scheduler. Which BTW works not so bad.

If those below offer more (and better, I mean safer), how do you envision to use them?

Thanks

Jacques

From: "Hans Bakker" <[hidden email]>

> To answer my own question for future reference:
>
> currently manufacturing job scheduling is not part of OFBiz.
>
> alternative open source job schedulers are:
> http://www.frepple.com/
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openworkbench/
> http://www.taskjuggler.org/
>
> to which OFBiz could interface
>
> There is also no link between fixed assets in manufacturing and the
> fixed assets in accounting/asset maintenance, for the scheduler and for
> fixed asset maintenance that would be an advantage (amount of time the
> fixed asset was used)
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
>
> On 04/10/2013 12:59 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
>> companies.
>>
>> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
>> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed assets
>> but they are not connected to the accounting system or asset maintenance.
>>
>> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs looking
>> at the last possible finish date and the available fixed assets
>> (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>>
>> Question to the community:
>> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
>> manufacturing?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>
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Adrian Crum-3
No, Hans said a *manufacturing* job - like when you need to manufacture
1000 widgets.

-Adrian

On 4/23/2013 1:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Hi Hans,
>
> I guess you refer to something different/more than the functionalities Quartz provides?
> http://quartz-scheduler.org/
>
> Else, we already discussed that and Quartz has until now been the preferred possible replacement for the current job scheduler. Which BTW works not so bad.
>
> If those below offer more (and better, I mean safer), how do you envision to use them?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Hans Bakker" <[hidden email]>
>> To answer my own question for future reference:
>>
>> currently manufacturing job scheduling is not part of OFBiz.
>>
>> alternative open source job schedulers are:
>> http://www.frepple.com/
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openworkbench/
>> http://www.taskjuggler.org/
>>
>> to which OFBiz could interface
>>
>> There is also no link between fixed assets in manufacturing and the
>> fixed assets in accounting/asset maintenance, for the scheduler and for
>> fixed asset maintenance that would be an advantage (amount of time the
>> fixed asset was used)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>>
>>
>> On 04/10/2013 12:59 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
>>> companies.
>>>
>>> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
>>> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed assets
>>> but they are not connected to the accounting system or asset maintenance.
>>>
>>> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs looking
>>> at the last possible finish date and the available fixed assets
>>> (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>>>
>>> Question to the community:
>>> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
>>> manufacturing?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans

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Re: manufacturing component missing production planning

Jacopo Cappellato-4
Yeah, Hans is talking about the (complex) task of scheduling manufacturing jobs in order to optimally use assets required to complete the tasks.

Jacopo

On Apr 23, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Adrian Crum <[hidden email]> wrote:

> No, Hans said a *manufacturing* job - like when you need to manufacture 1000 widgets.
>
> -Adrian
>
> On 4/23/2013 1:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> I guess you refer to something different/more than the functionalities Quartz provides?
>> http://quartz-scheduler.org/
>>
>> Else, we already discussed that and Quartz has until now been the preferred possible replacement for the current job scheduler. Which BTW works not so bad.
>>
>> If those below offer more (and better, I mean safer), how do you envision to use them?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Hans Bakker" <[hidden email]>
>>> To answer my own question for future reference:
>>>
>>> currently manufacturing job scheduling is not part of OFBiz.
>>>
>>> alternative open source job schedulers are:
>>> http://www.frepple.com/
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openworkbench/
>>> http://www.taskjuggler.org/
>>>
>>> to which OFBiz could interface
>>>
>>> There is also no link between fixed assets in manufacturing and the
>>> fixed assets in accounting/asset maintenance, for the scheduler and for
>>> fixed asset maintenance that would be an advantage (amount of time the
>>> fixed asset was used)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/10/2013 12:59 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
>>>> companies.
>>>>
>>>> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
>>>> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed assets
>>>> but they are not connected to the accounting system or asset maintenance.
>>>>
>>>> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs looking
>>>> at the last possible finish date and the available fixed assets
>>>> (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>>>>
>>>> Question to the community:
>>>> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
>>>> manufacturing?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hans
>

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Jacques Le Roux
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OK, thanks Adrian, Jacopo,

I just had a quick look at frepple and I see what this adds to a simple scheduler like Quartz.

BTW openworkbench has just a Windows UI

Licenses:
http://frepple.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/License/Main AGPL
http://www.taskjuggler.org/tj3/manual/Intro.html GPL
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openworkbench/ MPL

Just to say

Jacques


From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <[hidden email]>

> Yeah, Hans is talking about the (complex) task of scheduling manufacturing jobs in order to optimally use assets required to complete the tasks.
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Apr 23, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Adrian Crum <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> No, Hans said a *manufacturing* job - like when you need to manufacture 1000 widgets.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> On 4/23/2013 1:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> I guess you refer to something different/more than the functionalities Quartz provides?
>>> http://quartz-scheduler.org/
>>>
>>> Else, we already discussed that and Quartz has until now been the preferred possible replacement for the current job scheduler. Which BTW works not so bad.
>>>
>>> If those below offer more (and better, I mean safer), how do you envision to use them?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Hans Bakker" <[hidden email]>
>>>> To answer my own question for future reference:
>>>>
>>>> currently manufacturing job scheduling is not part of OFBiz.
>>>>
>>>> alternative open source job schedulers are:
>>>> http://www.frepple.com/
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openworkbench/
>>>> http://www.taskjuggler.org/
>>>>
>>>> to which OFBiz could interface
>>>>
>>>> There is also no link between fixed assets in manufacturing and the
>>>> fixed assets in accounting/asset maintenance, for the scheduler and for
>>>> fixed asset maintenance that would be an advantage (amount of time the
>>>> fixed asset was used)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/10/2013 12:59 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>> We are getting more requests to implement OFBiz for manufacturing
>>>>> companies.
>>>>>
>>>>> In general they are pleased with the functionality except for the
>>>>> production planning which is missing. Further there are fixed assets
>>>>> but they are not connected to the accounting system or asset maintenance.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is needed is a scheduler which plans the production runs looking
>>>>> at the last possible finish date and the available fixed assets
>>>>> (machines/equipment/tools) used in the runs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question to the community:
>>>>> Anybody already looked into how to do the production planning in
>>>>> manufacturing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Hans
>>
>
>