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my au
Hi,

I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names) selling 2 different services.
I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz instance/hot-deploy directory.
Eg:
www.AppOne.com
www.AppTwo.com

My question is:

1. Is this setup is possible ?

2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?

3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance of OFBiz?

4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not the mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?

Thank you
Ram






     
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Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications

BJ Freeman
1. If I understand you correctly, there is no need to use hot deploy.
all the information and website is built in.
  you just need to load you data for your sites.
2. you can use apache httpd virtual hosts with apj to interface to one
instance of ofbiz.
3. the catalog can be tied to the userlogin. Not sure it is what you
have in mind.
4. leave that to someone else. Not sure what a Mall store is, compared
to multiple stores. unless you are talking about a portal.

my au wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names) selling 2 different services.
> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz instance/hot-deploy directory.
> Eg:
> www.AppOne.com
> www.AppTwo.com
>
> My question is:
>
> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>
> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>
> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance of OFBiz?
>
> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not the mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?
>
> Thank you
> Ram
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      
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Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications

my au
Thanks for the reply. I am newbie

The sites do not exist now. I would like to write them using OFBiz Framework. How can I deploy them. I thought of creating 2 components and applications in hot-deploy.

1. Is there a better way to do that?

2. What is apj?



--- On Sat, 10/4/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 6:24 PM

1. If I understand you correctly, there is no need to use hot deploy.
all the information and website is built in.
  you just need to load you data for your sites.
2. you can use apache httpd virtual hosts with apj to interface to one
instance of ofbiz.
3. the catalog can be tied to the userlogin. Not sure it is what you
have in mind.
4. leave that to someone else. Not sure what a Mall store is, compared
to multiple stores. unless you are talking about a portal.

my au wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names) selling 2
different services.
> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz
instance/hot-deploy directory.

> Eg:
> www.AppOne.com
> www.AppTwo.com
>
> My question is:
>
> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>
> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>
> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance of
OFBiz?
>
> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not the mall
type stores. Could some one explain what is the difference between multiple
stores and a mall type stores?

>
> Thank you
> Ram
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      



     
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Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications

BJ Freeman
hold on to your socks.
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Beginner%27s+Development+Guide+Using+Practice+Application

1. after you have gone thru the above it will make more sense. You will
find that you will have to let go of a lot of preconcieved Ideas about
website programming, and Data.
2. sorry ajp.
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo#FAQ-Tips-Tricks-Cookbook-HowTo-HTTPD

my au wrote:

> Thanks for the reply. I am newbie
>
> The sites do not exist now. I would like to write them using OFBiz Framework. How can I deploy them. I thought of creating 2 components and applications in hot-deploy.
>
> 1. Is there a better way to do that?
>
> 2. What is apj?
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/4/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 6:24 PM
>
> 1. If I understand you correctly, there is no need to use hot deploy.
> all the information and website is built in.
>   you just need to load you data for your sites.
> 2. you can use apache httpd virtual hosts with apj to interface to one
> instance of ofbiz.
> 3. the catalog can be tied to the userlogin. Not sure it is what you
> have in mind.
> 4. leave that to someone else. Not sure what a Mall store is, compared
> to multiple stores. unless you are talking about a portal.
>
> my au wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names) selling 2
> different services.
>> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz
> instance/hot-deploy directory.
>> Eg:
>> www.AppOne.com
>> www.AppTwo.com
>>
>> My question is:
>>
>> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>>
>> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>>
>> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance of
> OFBiz?
>> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not the mall
> type stores. Could some one explain what is the difference between multiple
> stores and a mall type stores?
>> Thank you
>> Ram
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      
>
>
>
>      
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Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications

Ray-91
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In terms of mall type stores I understand that generally to mean
unrelated stores (ecommerce sites) running from one instance of OFBiz.
So customers from mall A.com won't see products from mall B.com and
importantly backend access will keep the orders and everything else
separate as well. So to be clear OFBiz is not suited OOTB to host
multiple separate malls from one instance. But it is relatively easy to
host another domain/site from one instance of OFBiz that may target a
slightly different market leveraging the same or similar products under
a different brand, the reasoning's for this will be left to the
marketing discussions but it's possible OOTB with OFBiz.

So what is the association between AppOne.com and AppTwo.com? Are they
separate companies? Just different branding same company? Do you want
one backend database for both the domains? Do you allow someone
registering on AppOne.com to access AppTwo.com?

1: Different catalogs can be used to publish different products with
their own look and feel for the domains. Depends how much you want to
customise as to whether you need 0, 1 or 2 hot deploy applications.

2: I think BJ was pointing you to ajp for this, which is a perfectly
good suggestion. If you're not fronting with Apache or anything else I'm
sure you can still do it with Tomcat but you'll have to dig a little
deeper in to the OFBiz/Tomcat container to check that.

3: Not sure who "their" refers to?

Ray

my au wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names) selling 2 different services.
> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz instance/hot-deploy directory.
> Eg:
> www.AppOne.com
> www.AppTwo.com
>
> My question is:
>
> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>
> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>
> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance of OFBiz?
>
> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not the mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?
>
> Thank you
> Ram
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      
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Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
I agree with Ray and BJ,

On point 3, I guess the answer is no. You will have to set separate instances as Ray as well explained.

Jacques

From: "Ray" <[hidden email]>

> In terms of mall type stores I understand that generally to mean
> unrelated stores (ecommerce sites) running from one instance of OFBiz.
> So customers from mall A.com won't see products from mall B.com and
> importantly backend access will keep the orders and everything else
> separate as well. So to be clear OFBiz is not suited OOTB to host
> multiple separate malls from one instance. But it is relatively easy to
> host another domain/site from one instance of OFBiz that may target a
> slightly different market leveraging the same or similar products under
> a different brand, the reasoning's for this will be left to the
> marketing discussions but it's possible OOTB with OFBiz.
>
> So what is the association between AppOne.com and AppTwo.com? Are they
> separate companies? Just different branding same company? Do you want
> one backend database for both the domains? Do you allow someone
> registering on AppOne.com to access AppTwo.com?
>
> 1: Different catalogs can be used to publish different products with
> their own look and feel for the domains. Depends how much you want to
> customise as to whether you need 0, 1 or 2 hot deploy applications.
>
> 2: I think BJ was pointing you to ajp for this, which is a perfectly
> good suggestion. If you're not fronting with Apache or anything else I'm
> sure you can still do it with Tomcat but you'll have to dig a little
> deeper in to the OFBiz/Tomcat container to check that.
>
> 3: Not sure who "their" refers to?
>
> Ray
>
> my au wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names) selling 2 different services.
>> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz instance/hot-deploy directory.
>> Eg:
>> www.AppOne.com
>> www.AppTwo.com
>>
>> My question is:
>>
>> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>>
>> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>>
>> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance of OFBiz?
>>
>> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not the mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the
>> difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?
>>
>> Thank you
>> Ram
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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my au
Thanks again for your time.


If I am correctly understanding from Ray's comment, it is possible to setup 2 catalogs for say
Cookies.com
dvds.com

and sell cookies through one site dvds through the another one. Where cookies.com customers can may buy dvds from dvds.com without registering again with dvds.com.

It is possible for a single admin to be able to see and manage the catalog, sales, customer information for both the cookies.com and dvds.com from one admin account.

If I am correctly understanding Jacques's and Ray's comment, it is NOT possible to have 2 seperate admin accounts (authorization) one for each cookies.com and dvds.com with 1 instance of OFBiz.

1. Am I right  in my understanding Ray'sand Jacques's comment ?

My other questions:
2. If there are door-to-door (affiliates) sales people for cookies.com, dvds.com, Is it possible to manage thier accounts online like seeing their sales, payment etc without seeing other affiliate's info ?
 

 Thank you

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote:
From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:40 AM

I agree with Ray and BJ,

On point 3, I guess the answer is no. You will have to set separate instances
as Ray as well explained.

Jacques

From: "Ray" <[hidden email]>

> In terms of mall type stores I understand that generally to mean
> unrelated stores (ecommerce sites) running from one instance of OFBiz.
> So customers from mall A.com won't see products from mall B.com and
> importantly backend access will keep the orders and everything else
> separate as well. So to be clear OFBiz is not suited OOTB to host
> multiple separate malls from one instance. But it is relatively easy to
> host another domain/site from one instance of OFBiz that may target a
> slightly different market leveraging the same or similar products under
> a different brand, the reasoning's for this will be left to the
> marketing discussions but it's possible OOTB with OFBiz.
>
> So what is the association between AppOne.com and AppTwo.com? Are they
> separate companies? Just different branding same company? Do you want
> one backend database for both the domains? Do you allow someone
> registering on AppOne.com to access AppTwo.com?
>
> 1: Different catalogs can be used to publish different products with
> their own look and feel for the domains. Depends how much you want to
> customise as to whether you need 0, 1 or 2 hot deploy applications.
>
> 2: I think BJ was pointing you to ajp for this, which is a perfectly
> good suggestion. If you're not fronting with Apache or anything else
I'm

> sure you can still do it with Tomcat but you'll have to dig a little
> deeper in to the OFBiz/Tomcat container to check that.
>
> 3: Not sure who "their" refers to?
>
> Ray
>
> my au wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names) selling
2 different services.
>> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz
instance/hot-deploy directory.

>> Eg:
>> www.AppOne.com
>> www.AppTwo.com
>>
>> My question is:
>>
>> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>>
>> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>>
>> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance of
OFBiz?
>>
>> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not the
mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the

>> difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?
>>
>> Thank you
>> Ram
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>




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BJ Freeman
for the following, the Company must own both websites.
look at the ecommerce ad clone ecommerce.
those are equivalent of you
cookies, and dvd
they use the same instance so thier login will tell them what they can see.
Catalogs, can be assigned to a productstore, the productstore is
connncted to the website.
ecommerce and clone ecommerces web.xml websites assiments then tell
ofbiz which productstore therefore what catalog can be used.

you can assign parties to a productstore or a catalog

have not used the affiliates.

my au wrote:

> Thanks again for your time.
>
>
> If I am correctly understanding from Ray's comment, it is possible to setup 2 catalogs for say
> Cookies.com
> dvds.com
>
> and sell cookies through one site dvds through the another one. Where cookies.com customers can may buy dvds from dvds.com without registering again with dvds.com.
>
> It is possible for a single admin to be able to see and manage the catalog, sales, customer information for both the cookies.com and dvds.com from one admin account.
>
> If I am correctly understanding Jacques's and Ray's comment, it is NOT possible to have 2 seperate admin accounts (authorization) one for each cookies.com and dvds.com with 1 instance of OFBiz.
>
> 1. Am I right  in my understanding Ray'sand Jacques's comment ?
>
> My other questions:
> 2. If there are door-to-door (affiliates) sales people for cookies.com, dvds.com, Is it possible to manage thier accounts online like seeing their sales, payment etc without seeing other affiliate's info ?
>  
>
>  Thank you
>
> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote:
> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:40 AM
>
> I agree with Ray and BJ,
>
> On point 3, I guess the answer is no. You will have to set separate instances
> as Ray as well explained.
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Ray" <[hidden email]>
>> In terms of mall type stores I understand that generally to mean
>> unrelated stores (ecommerce sites) running from one instance of OFBiz.
>> So customers from mall A.com won't see products from mall B.com and
>> importantly backend access will keep the orders and everything else
>> separate as well. So to be clear OFBiz is not suited OOTB to host
>> multiple separate malls from one instance. But it is relatively easy to
>> host another domain/site from one instance of OFBiz that may target a
>> slightly different market leveraging the same or similar products under
>> a different brand, the reasoning's for this will be left to the
>> marketing discussions but it's possible OOTB with OFBiz.
>>
>> So what is the association between AppOne.com and AppTwo.com? Are they
>> separate companies? Just different branding same company? Do you want
>> one backend database for both the domains? Do you allow someone
>> registering on AppOne.com to access AppTwo.com?
>>
>> 1: Different catalogs can be used to publish different products with
>> their own look and feel for the domains. Depends how much you want to
>> customise as to whether you need 0, 1 or 2 hot deploy applications.
>>
>> 2: I think BJ was pointing you to ajp for this, which is a perfectly
>> good suggestion. If you're not fronting with Apache or anything else
> I'm
>> sure you can still do it with Tomcat but you'll have to dig a little
>> deeper in to the OFBiz/Tomcat container to check that.
>>
>> 3: Not sure who "their" refers to?
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> my au wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names) selling
> 2 different services.
>>> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz
> instance/hot-deploy directory.
>>> Eg:
>>> www.AppOne.com
>>> www.AppTwo.com
>>>
>>> My question is:
>>>
>>> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>>>
>>> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>>>
>>> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance of
> OFBiz?
>>> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not the
> mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the
>>> difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Ram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>      
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Ray-91
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comments inline...

my au wrote:
> Thanks again for your time.
>
>
> If I am correctly understanding from Ray's comment, it is possible to setup 2 catalogs for say
> Cookies.com
> dvds.com
>
> and sell cookies through one site dvds through the another one. Where cookies.com customers can may buy dvds from dvds.com without registering again with dvds.com.
Yes, you might not choose to do with those examples but you can if you
want :-)
>
> It is possible for a single admin to be able to see and manage the catalog, sales, customer information for both the cookies.com and dvds.com from one admin account.
Yes
>
> If I am correctly understanding Jacques's and Ray's comment, it is NOT possible to have 2 seperate admin accounts (authorization) one for each cookies.com and dvds.com with 1 instance of OFBiz.
Correct. Again as BJ mentioned the catalog manager application does
provide some control level against admin logins so you can restrict
access to a degree but the rest of the order, accounts, stock etc are
not separated.
>
> 1. Am I right  in my understanding Ray'sand Jacques's comment ?
>
> My other questions:
> 2. If there are door-to-door (affiliates) sales people for cookies.com, dvds.com, Is it possible to manage thier accounts online like seeing their sales, payment etc without seeing other affiliate's info ?
Don't think there are any existing screens and reports for this but I
believe the basic structure is available in the system to allow set up
and tracking of affiliates, but it's not an area I've touched on.

Ray

>  
>
>  Thank you
>
> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote:
> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:40 AM
>
> I agree with Ray and BJ,
>
> On point 3, I guess the answer is no. You will have to set separate instances
> as Ray as well explained.
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Ray" <[hidden email]>
>> In terms of mall type stores I understand that generally to mean
>> unrelated stores (ecommerce sites) running from one instance of OFBiz.
>> So customers from mall A.com won't see products from mall B.com and
>> importantly backend access will keep the orders and everything else
>> separate as well. So to be clear OFBiz is not suited OOTB to host
>> multiple separate malls from one instance. But it is relatively easy to
>> host another domain/site from one instance of OFBiz that may target a
>> slightly different market leveraging the same or similar products under
>> a different brand, the reasoning's for this will be left to the
>> marketing discussions but it's possible OOTB with OFBiz.
>>
>> So what is the association between AppOne.com and AppTwo.com? Are they
>> separate companies? Just different branding same company? Do you want
>> one backend database for both the domains? Do you allow someone
>> registering on AppOne.com to access AppTwo.com?
>>
>> 1: Different catalogs can be used to publish different products with
>> their own look and feel for the domains. Depends how much you want to
>> customise as to whether you need 0, 1 or 2 hot deploy applications.
>>
>> 2: I think BJ was pointing you to ajp for this, which is a perfectly
>> good suggestion. If you're not fronting with Apache or anything else
> I'm
>> sure you can still do it with Tomcat but you'll have to dig a little
>> deeper in to the OFBiz/Tomcat container to check that.
>>
>> 3: Not sure who "their" refers to?
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> my au wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names) selling
> 2 different services.
>>> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz
> instance/hot-deploy directory.
>>> Eg:
>>> www.AppOne.com
>>> www.AppTwo.com
>>>
>>> My question is:
>>>
>>> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>>>
>>> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>>>
>>> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance of
> OFBiz?
>>> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not the
> mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the
>>> difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Ram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>      
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my au
Now I am getting little bit better picture. I made a mistake in my previous post.

1. cookies to be sold through cookies.com and dvds to be sold through dvds.com owned by a same owner. 

2. cookies.com should not show dvds and vice-versa

3. And 2 separate catalogs for cookies.com and dvds.com

4. how "affiliate / partner" work in ofbiz

Thanks again
--- On Tue, 10/7/08, Ray <[hidden email]> wrote:
From: Ray <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 3:15 AM

comments inline...

my au wrote:
> Thanks again for your time.
>
>
> If I am correctly understanding from Ray's comment, it is possible to
setup 2 catalogs for say
> Cookies.com
> dvds.com
>
> and sell cookies through one site dvds through the another one. Where
cookies.com customers can may buy dvds from dvds.com without registering again
with dvds.com.
Yes, you might not choose to do with those examples but you can if you
want :-)
>
> It is possible for a single admin to be able to see and manage the
catalog, sales, customer information for both the cookies.com and dvds.com from
one admin account.
Yes
>
> If I am correctly understanding Jacques's and Ray's comment, it is
NOT possible to have 2 seperate admin accounts (authorization) one for each
cookies.com and dvds.com with 1 instance of OFBiz.
Correct. Again as BJ mentioned the catalog manager application does
provide some control level against admin logins so you can restrict
access to a degree but the rest of the order, accounts, stock etc are
not separated.
>
> 1. Am I right  in my understanding Ray'sand Jacques's comment ?
>
> My other questions:
> 2. If there are door-to-door (affiliates) sales people for cookies.com,
dvds.com, Is it possible to manage thier accounts online like seeing their
sales, payment etc without seeing other affiliate's info ?
Don't think there are any existing screens and reports for this but I
believe the basic structure is available in the system to allow set up
and tracking of affiliates, but it's not an area I've touched on.

Ray

>  
>
>  Thank you
>
> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
wrote:
> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:40 AM
>
> I agree with Ray and BJ,
>
> On point 3, I guess the answer is no. You will have to set separate
instances
> as Ray as well explained.
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Ray" <[hidden email]>
>> In terms of mall type stores I understand that generally to mean
>> unrelated stores (ecommerce sites) running from one instance of OFBiz.
>> So customers from mall A.com won't see products from mall B.com
and
>> importantly backend access will keep the orders and everything else
>> separate as well. So to be clear OFBiz is not suited OOTB to host
>> multiple separate malls from one instance. But it is relatively easy
to
>> host another domain/site from one instance of OFBiz that may target a
>> slightly different market leveraging the same or similar products
under

>> a different brand, the reasoning's for this will be left to the
>> marketing discussions but it's possible OOTB with OFBiz.
>>
>> So what is the association between AppOne.com and AppTwo.com? Are they
>> separate companies? Just different branding same company? Do you want
>> one backend database for both the domains? Do you allow someone
>> registering on AppOne.com to access AppTwo.com?
>>
>> 1: Different catalogs can be used to publish different products with
>> their own look and feel for the domains. Depends how much you want to
>> customise as to whether you need 0, 1 or 2 hot deploy applications.
>>
>> 2: I think BJ was pointing you to ajp for this, which is a perfectly
>> good suggestion. If you're not fronting with Apache or anything
else
> I'm
>> sure you can still do it with Tomcat but you'll have to dig a
little

>> deeper in to the OFBiz/Tomcat container to check that.
>>
>> 3: Not sure who "their" refers to?
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> my au wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names)
selling

> 2 different services.
>>> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz
> instance/hot-deploy directory.
>>> Eg:
>>> www.AppOne.com
>>> www.AppTwo.com
>>>
>>> My question is:
>>>
>>> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>>>
>>> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>>>
>>> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance
of
> OFBiz?
>>> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not
the

> mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the
>>> difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Ram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>      



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BJ Freeman
1. works
2. yes
3. yes
4. not much UI at this time,
from david
OFBiz handles affiliate tracking for visits and orders through the
TrackingCode stuff in the Marketing Manager. There isn't really
anything to automatically handle commissions.

-David
#  Implemented a sample of affiliate commission calculation based on
PartyRelationship from CUSTOMER to AFFILIATE of relationship type
SALES_AFFILIATE. Note that the amounts are hardcoded in the service. (r
449224, 449628)
and from
https://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/webtools/control/ArtifactInfo
Entity: Affiliate
Service: createAffiliate
Service: sampleInvoiceAffiliateCommission
Service: updateAffiliate

this would show all screens services, if they were in the system.
so a lot of work needs to be done.


my au wrote:

> Now I am getting little bit better picture. I made a mistake in my previous post.
>
> 1. cookies to be sold through cookies.com and dvds to be sold through dvds.com owned by a same owner.  
>
> 2. cookies.com should not show dvds and vice-versa
>
> 3. And 2 separate catalogs for cookies.com and dvds.com
>
> 4. how "affiliate / partner" work in ofbiz
>
> Thanks again
> --- On Tue, 10/7/08, Ray <[hidden email]> wrote:
> From: Ray <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 3:15 AM
>
> comments inline...
>
> my au wrote:
>> Thanks again for your time.
>>
>>
>> If I am correctly understanding from Ray's comment, it is possible to
> setup 2 catalogs for say
>> Cookies.com
>> dvds.com
>>
>> and sell cookies through one site dvds through the another one. Where
> cookies.com customers can may buy dvds from dvds.com without registering again
> with dvds.com.
> Yes, you might not choose to do with those examples but you can if you
> want :-)
>> It is possible for a single admin to be able to see and manage the
> catalog, sales, customer information for both the cookies.com and dvds.com from
> one admin account.
> Yes
>> If I am correctly understanding Jacques's and Ray's comment, it is
> NOT possible to have 2 seperate admin accounts (authorization) one for each
> cookies.com and dvds.com with 1 instance of OFBiz.
> Correct. Again as BJ mentioned the catalog manager application does
> provide some control level against admin logins so you can restrict
> access to a degree but the rest of the order, accounts, stock etc are
> not separated.
>> 1. Am I right  in my understanding Ray'sand Jacques's comment ?
>>
>> My other questions:
>> 2. If there are door-to-door (affiliates) sales people for cookies.com,
> dvds.com, Is it possible to manage thier accounts online like seeing their
> sales, payment etc without seeing other affiliate's info ?
> Don't think there are any existing screens and reports for this but I
> believe the basic structure is available in the system to allow set up
> and tracking of affiliates, but it's not an area I've touched on.
>
> Ray
>
>>  
>>
>>  Thank you
>>
>> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:40 AM
>>
>> I agree with Ray and BJ,
>>
>> On point 3, I guess the answer is no. You will have to set separate
> instances
>> as Ray as well explained.
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Ray" <[hidden email]>
>>> In terms of mall type stores I understand that generally to mean
>>> unrelated stores (ecommerce sites) running from one instance of OFBiz.
>>> So customers from mall A.com won't see products from mall B.com
> and
>>> importantly backend access will keep the orders and everything else
>>> separate as well. So to be clear OFBiz is not suited OOTB to host
>>> multiple separate malls from one instance. But it is relatively easy
> to
>>> host another domain/site from one instance of OFBiz that may target a
>>> slightly different market leveraging the same or similar products
> under
>>> a different brand, the reasoning's for this will be left to the
>>> marketing discussions but it's possible OOTB with OFBiz.
>>>
>>> So what is the association between AppOne.com and AppTwo.com? Are they
>>> separate companies? Just different branding same company? Do you want
>>> one backend database for both the domains? Do you allow someone
>>> registering on AppOne.com to access AppTwo.com?
>>>
>>> 1: Different catalogs can be used to publish different products with
>>> their own look and feel for the domains. Depends how much you want to
>>> customise as to whether you need 0, 1 or 2 hot deploy applications.
>>>
>>> 2: I think BJ was pointing you to ajp for this, which is a perfectly
>>> good suggestion. If you're not fronting with Apache or anything
> else
>> I'm
>>> sure you can still do it with Tomcat but you'll have to dig a
> little
>>> deeper in to the OFBiz/Tomcat container to check that.
>>>
>>> 3: Not sure who "their" refers to?
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> my au wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names)
> selling
>> 2 different services.
>>>> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz
>> instance/hot-deploy directory.
>>>> Eg:
>>>> www.AppOne.com
>>>> www.AppTwo.com
>>>>
>>>> My question is:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one instance
> of
>> OFBiz?
>>>> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but not
> the
>> mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the
>>>> difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Ram
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      
>
>
>
>      
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my au
Thank you all. This is cool and wonderful.

--- On Tue, 10/7/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:01 PM

1. works
2. yes
3. yes
4. not much UI at this time,
from david
OFBiz handles affiliate tracking for visits and orders through the
TrackingCode stuff in the Marketing Manager. There isn't really
anything to automatically handle commissions.

-David
#  Implemented a sample of affiliate commission calculation based on
PartyRelationship from CUSTOMER to AFFILIATE of relationship type
SALES_AFFILIATE. Note that the amounts are hardcoded in the service. (r
449224, 449628)
and from
https://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/webtools/control/ArtifactInfo
Entity: Affiliate
Service: createAffiliate
Service: sampleInvoiceAffiliateCommission
Service: updateAffiliate

this would show all screens services, if they were in the system.
so a lot of work needs to be done.


my au wrote:
> Now I am getting little bit better picture. I made a mistake in my
previous post.
>
> 1. cookies to be sold through cookies.com and dvds to be sold through
dvds.com owned by a same owner.  

>
> 2. cookies.com should not show dvds and vice-versa
>
> 3. And 2 separate catalogs for cookies.com and dvds.com
>
> 4. how "affiliate / partner" work in ofbiz
>
> Thanks again
> --- On Tue, 10/7/08, Ray <[hidden email]> wrote:
> From: Ray <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 3:15 AM
>
> comments inline...
>
> my au wrote:
>> Thanks again for your time.
>>
>>
>> If I am correctly understanding from Ray's comment, it is possible
to
> setup 2 catalogs for say
>> Cookies.com
>> dvds.com
>>
>> and sell cookies through one site dvds through the another one. Where
> cookies.com customers can may buy dvds from dvds.com without registering
again
> with dvds.com.
> Yes, you might not choose to do with those examples but you can if you
> want :-)
>> It is possible for a single admin to be able to see and manage the
> catalog, sales, customer information for both the cookies.com and dvds.com
from
> one admin account.
> Yes
>> If I am correctly understanding Jacques's and Ray's comment,
it is
> NOT possible to have 2 seperate admin accounts (authorization) one for
each
> cookies.com and dvds.com with 1 instance of OFBiz.
> Correct. Again as BJ mentioned the catalog manager application does
> provide some control level against admin logins so you can restrict
> access to a degree but the rest of the order, accounts, stock etc are
> not separated.
>> 1. Am I right  in my understanding Ray'sand Jacques's comment
?
>>
>> My other questions:
>> 2. If there are door-to-door (affiliates) sales people for
cookies.com,

> dvds.com, Is it possible to manage thier accounts online like seeing their
> sales, payment etc without seeing other affiliate's info ?
> Don't think there are any existing screens and reports for this but I
> believe the basic structure is available in the system to allow set up
> and tracking of affiliates, but it's not an area I've touched on.
>
> Ray
>
>>  
>>
>>  Thank you
>>
>> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Jacques Le Roux
<[hidden email]>

> wrote:
>> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:40 AM
>>
>> I agree with Ray and BJ,
>>
>> On point 3, I guess the answer is no. You will have to set separate
> instances
>> as Ray as well explained.
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Ray" <[hidden email]>
>>> In terms of mall type stores I understand that generally to mean
>>> unrelated stores (ecommerce sites) running from one instance of
OFBiz.
>>> So customers from mall A.com won't see products from mall
B.com
> and
>>> importantly backend access will keep the orders and everything
else
>>> separate as well. So to be clear OFBiz is not suited OOTB to host
>>> multiple separate malls from one instance. But it is relatively
easy
> to
>>> host another domain/site from one instance of OFBiz that may
target a
>>> slightly different market leveraging the same or similar products
> under
>>> a different brand, the reasoning's for this will be left to
the
>>> marketing discussions but it's possible OOTB with OFBiz.
>>>
>>> So what is the association between AppOne.com and AppTwo.com? Are
they
>>> separate companies? Just different branding same company? Do you
want
>>> one backend database for both the domains? Do you allow someone
>>> registering on AppOne.com to access AppTwo.com?
>>>
>>> 1: Different catalogs can be used to publish different products
with
>>> their own look and feel for the domains. Depends how much you want
to
>>> customise as to whether you need 0, 1 or 2 hot deploy
applications.
>>>
>>> 2: I think BJ was pointing you to ajp for this, which is a
perfectly
>>> good suggestion. If you're not fronting with Apache or
anything

> else
>> I'm
>>> sure you can still do it with Tomcat but you'll have to dig a
> little
>>> deeper in to the OFBiz/Tomcat container to check that.
>>>
>>> 3: Not sure who "their" refers to?
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> my au wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names)
> selling
>> 2 different services.
>>>> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz
>> instance/hot-deploy directory.
>>>> Eg:
>>>> www.AppOne.com
>>>> www.AppTwo.com
>>>>
>>>> My question is:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one
instance
> of
>> OFBiz?
>>>> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but
not

> the
>> mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the
>>>> difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Ram
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      
>
>
>
>      



     
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BJ Freeman
Just my 2 cents, would be nice to tie the agreements into the commissions.

my au wrote:

> Thank you all. This is cool and wonderful.
>
> --- On Tue, 10/7/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 7:01 PM
>
> 1. works
> 2. yes
> 3. yes
> 4. not much UI at this time,
> from david
> OFBiz handles affiliate tracking for visits and orders through the
> TrackingCode stuff in the Marketing Manager. There isn't really
> anything to automatically handle commissions.
>
> -David
> #  Implemented a sample of affiliate commission calculation based on
> PartyRelationship from CUSTOMER to AFFILIATE of relationship type
> SALES_AFFILIATE. Note that the amounts are hardcoded in the service. (r
> 449224, 449628)
> and from
> https://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/webtools/control/ArtifactInfo
> Entity: Affiliate
> Service: createAffiliate
> Service: sampleInvoiceAffiliateCommission
> Service: updateAffiliate
>
> this would show all screens services, if they were in the system.
> so a lot of work needs to be done.
>
>
> my au wrote:
>> Now I am getting little bit better picture. I made a mistake in my
> previous post.
>> 1. cookies to be sold through cookies.com and dvds to be sold through
> dvds.com owned by a same owner.  
>> 2. cookies.com should not show dvds and vice-versa
>>
>> 3. And 2 separate catalogs for cookies.com and dvds.com
>>
>> 4. how "affiliate / partner" work in ofbiz
>>
>> Thanks again
>> --- On Tue, 10/7/08, Ray <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> From: Ray <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 3:15 AM
>>
>> comments inline...
>>
>> my au wrote:
>>> Thanks again for your time.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I am correctly understanding from Ray's comment, it is possible
> to
>> setup 2 catalogs for say
>>> Cookies.com
>>> dvds.com
>>>
>>> and sell cookies through one site dvds through the another one. Where
>> cookies.com customers can may buy dvds from dvds.com without registering
> again
>> with dvds.com.
>> Yes, you might not choose to do with those examples but you can if you
>> want :-)
>>> It is possible for a single admin to be able to see and manage the
>> catalog, sales, customer information for both the cookies.com and dvds.com
> from
>> one admin account.
>> Yes
>>> If I am correctly understanding Jacques's and Ray's comment,
> it is
>> NOT possible to have 2 seperate admin accounts (authorization) one for
> each
>> cookies.com and dvds.com with 1 instance of OFBiz.
>> Correct. Again as BJ mentioned the catalog manager application does
>> provide some control level against admin logins so you can restrict
>> access to a degree but the rest of the order, accounts, stock etc are
>> not separated.
>>> 1. Am I right  in my understanding Ray'sand Jacques's comment
> ?
>>> My other questions:
>>> 2. If there are door-to-door (affiliates) sales people for
> cookies.com,
>> dvds.com, Is it possible to manage thier accounts online like seeing their
>> sales, payment etc without seeing other affiliate's info ?
>> Don't think there are any existing screens and reports for this but I
>> believe the basic structure is available in the system to allow set up
>> and tracking of affiliates, but it's not an area I've touched on.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  Thank you
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Jacques Le Roux
> <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: Re: multiple hot-deployment web site applications
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:40 AM
>>>
>>> I agree with Ray and BJ,
>>>
>>> On point 3, I guess the answer is no. You will have to set separate
>> instances
>>> as Ray as well explained.
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Ray" <[hidden email]>
>>>> In terms of mall type stores I understand that generally to mean
>>>> unrelated stores (ecommerce sites) running from one instance of
> OFBiz.
>>>> So customers from mall A.com won't see products from mall
> B.com
>> and
>>>> importantly backend access will keep the orders and everything
> else
>>>> separate as well. So to be clear OFBiz is not suited OOTB to host
>>>> multiple separate malls from one instance. But it is relatively
> easy
>> to
>>>> host another domain/site from one instance of OFBiz that may
> target a
>>>> slightly different market leveraging the same or similar products
>> under
>>>> a different brand, the reasoning's for this will be left to
> the
>>>> marketing discussions but it's possible OOTB with OFBiz.
>>>>
>>>> So what is the association between AppOne.com and AppTwo.com? Are
> they
>>>> separate companies? Just different branding same company? Do you
> want
>>>> one backend database for both the domains? Do you allow someone
>>>> registering on AppOne.com to access AppTwo.com?
>>>>
>>>> 1: Different catalogs can be used to publish different products
> with
>>>> their own look and feel for the domains. Depends how much you want
> to
>>>> customise as to whether you need 0, 1 or 2 hot deploy
> applications.
>>>> 2: I think BJ was pointing you to ajp for this, which is a
> perfectly
>>>> good suggestion. If you're not fronting with Apache or
> anything
>> else
>>> I'm
>>>> sure you can still do it with Tomcat but you'll have to dig a
>> little
>>>> deeper in to the OFBiz/Tomcat container to check that.
>>>>
>>>> 3: Not sure who "their" refers to?
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>> my au wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am planning to write 2 web site applications (Domain names)
>> selling
>>> 2 different services.
>>>>> I would like them to be hosted and deployed through one OFBiz
>>> instance/hot-deploy directory.
>>>>> Eg:
>>>>> www.AppOne.com
>>>>> www.AppTwo.com
>>>>>
>>>>> My question is:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Is this setup is possible ?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Is it possible for 2 host names to have 2 different IPs ?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Is it possible to manage their catalog/security in one
> instance
>> of
>>> OFBiz?
>>>>> 4. I did see the multiple stores are supported by OFBiz but
> not
>> the
>>> mall type stores. Could some one explain what is the
>>>>> difference between multiple stores and a mall type stores?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Ram
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>
>>
>>      
>
>
>
>