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cathrina
im new to ofbiz .....i want to do customization and validation....how can i do that....wer should i do my business logics.....pl reply me as soon as possible
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Re: ofbiz doubts

Jacques Le Roux
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Quick question, quick answer
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Getting+Started

Jacques

From: "cathrina" <[hidden email]>
> im new to ofbiz .....i want to do customization and validation....how can i
> do that....wer should i do my business logics.....pl reply me as soon as
> possible
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Re: ofbiz doubts

Nattanicha Rittammanart
Hi cathrina,

If you want to understand basic to implement application on OFBiz,
please go through http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/tutorials.php
OFBiz in nutshell ->
www.opensourcestrategies.com/downloads/*ofbiz*_*nutshell*.pdf --> is
also a good resource which can make you understand overall OFBiz

Nattanicha

Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Quick question, quick answer
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Getting+Started
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "cathrina" <[hidden email]>
>> im new to ofbiz .....i want to do customization and validation....how
>> can i
>> do that....wer should i do my business logics.....pl reply me as soon as
>> possible
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/ofbiz-doubts-tp16911580p16911580.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
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Re: ofbiz doubts

David E Jones

Just a quick note: the documents referenced there are not part of any  
OFBiz documentation, and do not necessarily show Best Practices. For  
more official documents that are more compatible with the direction  
and goals of the community, see the docs.ofbiz.org site.

-David


On Apr 26, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Nattanicha Rittammanart wrote:

> Hi cathrina,
>
> If you want to understand basic to implement application on OFBiz,  
> please go through http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/tutorials.php
> OFBiz in nutshell -> www.opensourcestrategies.com/downloads/*ofbiz*_*nutshell*.pdf
>  --> is also a good resource which can make you understand overall  
> OFBiz
>
> Nattanicha
>
> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Quick question, quick answer
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Getting+Started
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "cathrina" <[hidden email]>
>>> im new to ofbiz .....i want to do customization and  
>>> validation....how can i
>>> do that....wer should i do my business logics.....pl reply me as  
>>> soon as
>>> possible
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/ofbiz-doubts-tp16911580p16911580.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
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>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
>> http://www.eset.com
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Re: ofbiz doubts

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
Yes, so right, Opensourcestrategies has its own practices which are for certain opposite to OFBiz recommended Best Practices. For
instance they do not recommend to use Widget and Minilang which are some of our basic recommendations.
Note that Widgets are not the recommended tool to build Front end sophisticated UIs, like eCommerce, but BeanShell/FreeMarker couple
is.

Jacques

From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>

>
> Just a quick note: the documents referenced there are not part of any  OFBiz documentation, and do not necessarily show Best
> Practices. For  more official documents that are more compatible with the direction  and goals of the community, see the
> docs.ofbiz.org site.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Nattanicha Rittammanart wrote:
>> Hi cathrina,
>>
>> If you want to understand basic to implement application on OFBiz,  please go through
>> http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/tutorials.php
>> OFBiz in nutshell -> www.opensourcestrategies.com/downloads/*ofbiz*_*nutshell*.pdf --> is also a good resource which can make you
>> understand overall  OFBiz
>>
>> Nattanicha
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> Quick question, quick answer
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Getting+Started
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "cathrina" <[hidden email]>
>>>> im new to ofbiz .....i want to do customization and  validation....how can i
>>>> do that....wer should i do my business logics.....pl reply me as  soon as
>>>> possible
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/ofbiz-doubts-tp16911580p16911580.html
>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>
>>> __________ NOD32 3056 (20080426) Information __________
>>>
>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
>>> http://www.eset.com
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Re: ofbiz doubts

David E Jones

Thanks for your comments Jacques. Some quick clarifications:

1. even in ecommerce we still use the Screen Widget, just not the  
Form, Menu or Tree widgets; I'm not sure but I think OSS has been  
stepping away from even using the Screen Widget (I think they are  
using JSF types of things, which means they probably aren't even using  
the ControlServlet in OFBiz)

2. the main reason for FTL/BSH in ecommerce is not for sophisticated  
UIs, as the Form Widget can do some pretty surprising things for those  
who haven't tried to make it pretty and fancy and such, but rather for  
easy incorporation of custom HTML which is a common part of ecommerce  
and general public facing sites (ie design, create HTML, add dynamic  
elements (or add to dynamic templates)).

-David


On Apr 26, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Yes, so right, Opensourcestrategies has its own practices which are  
> for certain opposite to OFBiz recommended Best Practices. For
> instance they do not recommend to use Widget and Minilang which are  
> some of our basic recommendations.
> Note that Widgets are not the recommended tool to build Front end  
> sophisticated UIs, like eCommerce, but BeanShell/FreeMarker couple
> is.
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Just a quick note: the documents referenced there are not part of  
>> any  OFBiz documentation, and do not necessarily show Best
>> Practices. For  more official documents that are more compatible  
>> with the direction  and goals of the community, see the
>> docs.ofbiz.org site.
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Nattanicha Rittammanart wrote:
>>> Hi cathrina,
>>>
>>> If you want to understand basic to implement application on  
>>> OFBiz,  please go through
>>> http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/tutorials.php
>>> OFBiz in nutshell -> www.opensourcestrategies.com/downloads/*ofbiz*_*nutshell*.pdf
>>>  --> is also a good resource which can make you
>>> understand overall  OFBiz
>>>
>>> Nattanicha
>>>
>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>> Quick question, quick answer
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Getting+Started
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "cathrina" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> im new to ofbiz .....i want to do customization and  
>>>>> validation....how can i
>>>>> do that....wer should i do my business logics.....pl reply me  
>>>>> as  soon as
>>>>> possible
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/ofbiz-doubts-tp16911580p16911580.html
>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
>>>> http://www.eset.com
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: ofbiz doubts

Nattanicha Rittammanart
Dear all,

   Thank your for your suggestions. In my opinion, I think it is just a
way to study OFBiz. Although the source does not come from official
site, it can show another way point to use OFBiz. I also study OFBiz
from official site and other sites. But it does not mean that I will
follow the Opensourcestrategies practice. Currently, I use screen and
widget for building Front, I also don't like HTML and FTL because I
think widget and screen is more easy to use in OFBiz. I just want to
tell that it also good for user to know many ways to use OFBiz so they
can choose the best way which they can use. I'm sure that all users are
familiar to follow the best practice from official site although they
know other ways to develop application on OFBiz. Moreover, I think OFBiz
official site is still not provide enough documents for user to study
(maybe it will hard to use or I cannot find it, any reason). That's why
many people still learn OFBiz from other sites.

Comments are most appreciated.

Best regards,
Nattanicha
 
David E Jones wrote:

>
> Thanks for your comments Jacques. Some quick clarifications:
>
> 1. even in ecommerce we still use the Screen Widget, just not the
> Form, Menu or Tree widgets; I'm not sure but I think OSS has been
> stepping away from even using the Screen Widget (I think they are
> using JSF types of things, which means they probably aren't even using
> the ControlServlet in OFBiz)
>
> 2. the main reason for FTL/BSH in ecommerce is not for sophisticated
> UIs, as the Form Widget can do some pretty surprising things for those
> who haven't tried to make it pretty and fancy and such, but rather for
> easy incorporation of custom HTML which is a common part of ecommerce
> and general public facing sites (ie design, create HTML, add dynamic
> elements (or add to dynamic templates)).
>
> -David
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Yes, so right, Opensourcestrategies has its own practices which are
>> for certain opposite to OFBiz recommended Best Practices. For
>> instance they do not recommend to use Widget and Minilang which are
>> some of our basic recommendations.
>> Note that Widgets are not the recommended tool to build Front end
>> sophisticated UIs, like eCommerce, but BeanShell/FreeMarker couple
>> is.
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> Just a quick note: the documents referenced there are not part of
>>> any  OFBiz documentation, and do not necessarily show Best
>>> Practices. For  more official documents that are more compatible
>>> with the direction  and goals of the community, see the
>>> docs.ofbiz.org site.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Nattanicha Rittammanart wrote:
>>>> Hi cathrina,
>>>>
>>>> If you want to understand basic to implement application on OFBiz,  
>>>> please go through
>>>> http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/tutorials.php
>>>> OFBiz in nutshell ->
>>>> www.opensourcestrategies.com/downloads/*ofbiz*_*nutshell*.pdf -->
>>>> is also a good resource which can make you
>>>> understand overall  OFBiz
>>>>
>>>> Nattanicha
>>>>
>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>> Quick question, quick answer
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Getting+Started
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "cathrina" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> im new to ofbiz .....i want to do customization and  
>>>>>> validation....how can i
>>>>>> do that....wer should i do my business logics.....pl reply me as  
>>>>>> soon as
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/ofbiz-doubts-tp16911580p16911580.html
>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __________ NOD32 3056 (20080426) Information __________
>>>>>
>>>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
>>>>> http://www.eset.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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