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Florin Popa
Hello,

I am trying to use paypal payment type.
I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
also configured ofbiz according to

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails

and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.

When I try a payment, I got this:

    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
[       PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not
configured properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3) [    
RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an error with
the following message: payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration


Any help would be appreciated,

Best regards,
 Flopa
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Re: paypal

BJ Freeman
will bring up mine and test
but here are some things to consider.

Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
dedicated to this server?
have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
documentation)
what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?



Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:

> Hello,
>
> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
> also configured ofbiz according to
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>
>
> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>
> When I try a payment, I got this:
>
>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3) [      
> PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not configured
> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3) [    
> RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an error with
> the following message: payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated,
>
> Best regards,
> Flopa
>
>
>

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Re: paypal

Florin Popa
Hello Mr. Freeman,

Thanks for your quick reply and willing to help, meanwhile it worked fine.
The reason of failure was that I did not uncomment following lines:

payment.paypal.redirect=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
and
payment.paypal.confirm=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr

It was mentioned to touch only above ones.

Now the interesting parts starts...implementation of a customized
payment - www.sofortueberweisung.de
In this case, it seems a full java implementation is required.

Best regards,
 Flopa

> will bring up mine and test
> but here are some things to consider.
>
> Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
> you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
> dedicated to this server?
> have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
> documentation)
> what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?
>
>
>
> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:
>  
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
>> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
>> also configured ofbiz according to
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>>
>>
>> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>>
>> When I try a payment, I got this:
>>
>>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3) [      
>> PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not configured
>> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3) [    
>> RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an error with
>> the following message: payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>>
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Flopa
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>
>
>  

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LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP

Jacek Wagner
What is  a purpose for having two (2) last updated datetimes
(LAST_UPDATED_STAMP, LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP).  Every time I run a service
(any) those stamps are one or two seconds apart.

Curious Jacek
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Re: paypal

BJ Freeman
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glad you got it fixed.
all of these were fulll java and or webbased.
they were converted to ofbiz
please look at all the third party code compared to what the vendors
said to get an idea
accounting\src\org\ofbiz\accounting\thirdparty

Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:12 PM:

> Hello Mr. Freeman,
>
> Thanks for your quick reply and willing to help, meanwhile it worked fine.
> The reason of failure was that I did not uncomment following lines:
>
> payment.paypal.redirect=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
> and
> payment.paypal.confirm=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>
> It was mentioned to touch only above ones.
>
> Now the interesting parts starts...implementation of a customized
> payment - www.sofortueberweisung.de
> In this case, it seems a full java implementation is required.
>
> Best regards,
> Flopa
>> will bring up mine and test
>> but here are some things to consider.
>>
>> Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
>> you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
>> dedicated to this server?
>> have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
>> documentation)
>> what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?
>>
>>
>>
>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:
>>  
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
>>> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
>>> also configured ofbiz according to
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>>>
>>> When I try a payment, I got this:
>>>
>>>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>> [      PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not configured
>>> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>>>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>> [    RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an
>>> error with
>>> the following message: payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>>>
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Flopa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>
>>
>>  
>
>

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Re: LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP

BJ Freeman
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TX stands for transaction
you will note the LAST_UPDATED_STAMP is different also before you run
the service

Jacek Wagner sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:39 PM:
> What is  a purpose for having two (2) last updated datetimes
> (LAST_UPDATED_STAMP, LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP).  Every time I run a service
> (any) those stamps are one or two seconds apart.
>
> Curious Jacek
>
>
>

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Re: paypal

BJ Freeman
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My german is very rusty but I see a installation for oscommerce
so you should be able to get the information you need.

BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:50 PM:

> glad you got it fixed.
> all of these were fulll java and or webbased.
> they were converted to ofbiz
> please look at all the third party code compared to what the vendors
> said to get an idea
> accounting\src\org\ofbiz\accounting\thirdparty
>
> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:12 PM:
>> Hello Mr. Freeman,
>>
>> Thanks for your quick reply and willing to help, meanwhile it worked fine.
>> The reason of failure was that I did not uncomment following lines:
>>
>> payment.paypal.redirect=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>> and
>> payment.paypal.confirm=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>
>> It was mentioned to touch only above ones.
>>
>> Now the interesting parts starts...implementation of a customized
>> payment - www.sofortueberweisung.de
>> In this case, it seems a full java implementation is required.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Flopa
>>> will bring up mine and test
>>> but here are some things to consider.
>>>
>>> Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
>>> you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
>>> dedicated to this server?
>>> have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
>>> documentation)
>>> what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:
>>>  
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
>>>> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
>>>> also configured ofbiz according to
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>>>>
>>>> When I try a payment, I got this:
>>>>
>>>>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>> [      PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not configured
>>>> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>>>>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>> [    RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an
>>>> error with
>>>> the following message: payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Flopa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>
>>>  
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP

BJ Freeman
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that is transaction, like in updating data.

BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:52 PM:

> TX stands for transaction
> you will note the LAST_UPDATED_STAMP is different also before you run
> the service
>
> Jacek Wagner sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:39 PM:
>> What is  a purpose for having two (2) last updated datetimes
>> (LAST_UPDATED_STAMP, LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP).  Every time I run a service
>> (any) those stamps are one or two seconds apart.
>>
>> Curious Jacek
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: paypal

BJ Freeman
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here is a good guideline
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices

BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:50 PM:

> glad you got it fixed.
> all of these were fulll java and or webbased.
> they were converted to ofbiz
> please look at all the third party code compared to what the vendors
> said to get an idea
> accounting\src\org\ofbiz\accounting\thirdparty
>
> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:12 PM:
>> Hello Mr. Freeman,
>>
>> Thanks for your quick reply and willing to help, meanwhile it worked fine.
>> The reason of failure was that I did not uncomment following lines:
>>
>> payment.paypal.redirect=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>> and
>> payment.paypal.confirm=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>
>> It was mentioned to touch only above ones.
>>
>> Now the interesting parts starts...implementation of a customized
>> payment - www.sofortueberweisung.de
>> In this case, it seems a full java implementation is required.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Flopa
>>> will bring up mine and test
>>> but here are some things to consider.
>>>
>>> Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
>>> you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
>>> dedicated to this server?
>>> have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
>>> documentation)
>>> what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:
>>>  
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
>>>> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
>>>> also configured ofbiz according to
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>>>>
>>>> When I try a payment, I got this:
>>>>
>>>>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>> [      PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not configured
>>>> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>>>>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>> [    RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an
>>>> error with
>>>> the following message: payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Flopa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>
>>>  
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: paypal

Florin Popa
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Yes, I actually got this

http://www.payment-network.com/images/downloads/20080819_documentation_directebanking.com_v1.3.pdf

so I assume I can do it as a third party implementation..

The other "third party" issue would be ebay: do I need to configure it
somehow?

I saw it here:
http://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ebay/control/ManageOrdersFromEbay

but I can not enable it even if the ofbiz I am working on it is pretty
new one - a checkout from march this year


regards,
 Flopa


> My german is very rusty but I see a installation for oscommerce
> so you should be able to get the information you need.
>
> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:50 PM:
>  
>> glad you got it fixed.
>> all of these were fulll java and or webbased.
>> they were converted to ofbiz
>> please look at all the third party code compared to what the vendors
>> said to get an idea
>> accounting\src\org\ofbiz\accounting\thirdparty
>>
>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:12 PM:
>>    
>>> Hello Mr. Freeman,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your quick reply and willing to help, meanwhile it worked fine.
>>> The reason of failure was that I did not uncomment following lines:
>>>
>>> payment.paypal.redirect=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>> and
>>> payment.paypal.confirm=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>
>>> It was mentioned to touch only above ones.
>>>
>>> Now the interesting parts starts...implementation of a customized
>>> payment - www.sofortueberweisung.de
>>> In this case, it seems a full java implementation is required.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Flopa
>>>      
>>>> will bring up mine and test
>>>> but here are some things to consider.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
>>>> you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
>>>> dedicated to this server?
>>>> have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
>>>> documentation)
>>>> what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:
>>>>  
>>>>        
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
>>>>> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
>>>>> also configured ofbiz according to
>>>>>
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I try a payment, I got this:
>>>>>
>>>>>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>> [      PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not configured
>>>>> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>>>>>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>> [    RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an
>>>>> error with
>>>>> the following message: payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Flopa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    
>>>>>          
>>>>  
>>>>        
>>
>>
>>    
>
>
>  

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Re: payment system was paypal

BJ Freeman
ebay only export products and imports orders.
there was work on it in may and August of this year.
the actual payment is done through ebay so you would have to link your
payments through them to you payments system
so when the orders are downloaded they are all ready  paid for.
the only payments that would be process through ofbiz are web order from
the ecommerce and order entry.



Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 3:04 PM:

> Yes, I actually got this
>
> http://www.payment-network.com/images/downloads/20080819_documentation_directebanking.com_v1.3.pdf
>
>
> so I assume I can do it as a third party implementation..
>
> The other "third party" issue would be ebay: do I need to configure it
> somehow?
>
> I saw it here:
> http://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ebay/control/ManageOrdersFromEbay
>
> but I can not enable it even if the ofbiz I am working on it is pretty
> new one - a checkout from march this year
>
>
> regards,
> Flopa
>
>
>> My german is very rusty but I see a installation for oscommerce
>> so you should be able to get the information you need.
>>
>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:50 PM:
>>  
>>> glad you got it fixed.
>>> all of these were fulll java and or webbased.
>>> they were converted to ofbiz
>>> please look at all the third party code compared to what the vendors
>>> said to get an idea
>>> accounting\src\org\ofbiz\accounting\thirdparty
>>>
>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:12 PM:
>>>    
>>>> Hello Mr. Freeman,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your quick reply and willing to help, meanwhile it worked
>>>> fine.
>>>> The reason of failure was that I did not uncomment following lines:
>>>>
>>>> payment.paypal.redirect=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>> payment.paypal.confirm=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>>
>>>> It was mentioned to touch only above ones.
>>>>
>>>> Now the interesting parts starts...implementation of a customized
>>>> payment - www.sofortueberweisung.de
>>>> In this case, it seems a full java implementation is required.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Flopa
>>>>      
>>>>> will bring up mine and test
>>>>> but here are some things to consider.
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
>>>>> you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
>>>>> dedicated to this server?
>>>>> have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
>>>>> documentation)
>>>>> what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:
>>>>>  
>>>>>        
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
>>>>>> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
>>>>>> also configured ofbiz according to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I try a payment, I got this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>>> [      PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not
>>>>>> configured
>>>>>> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>>>>>>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>>> [    RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an
>>>>>> error with
>>>>>> the following message:
>>>>>> payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Flopa
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>          
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>
>>
>>  
>
>

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Re: LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP

Jacek Wagner
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BJ Freeman wrote:

> that is transaction, like in updating data.
>
> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:52 PM:
>  
>> TX stands for transaction
>> you will note the LAST_UPDATED_STAMP is different also before you run
>> the service
>>
>> Jacek Wagner sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:39 PM:
>>    
>>> What is  a purpose for having two (2) last updated datetimes
>>> (LAST_UPDATED_STAMP, LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP).  Every time I run a service
>>> (any) those stamps are one or two seconds apart.
>>>
>>> Curious Jacek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>
>>
>>    
>
>  
Can you present a case where only LAST_UPDATED_STAMP  or
LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP will be updated.

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Re: payment system was paypal

BJ Freeman
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I glance at directebanking.com_v1.3.pdf
you can use most of the third parties as examples
to do the same thing.

BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 3:33 PM:

> ebay only export products and imports orders.
> there was work on it in may and August of this year.
> the actual payment is done through ebay so you would have to link your
> payments through them to you payments system
> so when the orders are downloaded they are all ready  paid for.
> the only payments that would be process through ofbiz are web order from
> the ecommerce and order entry.
>
>
>
> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 3:04 PM:
>> Yes, I actually got this
>>
>> http://www.payment-network.com/images/downloads/20080819_documentation_directebanking.com_v1.3.pdf
>>
>>
>> so I assume I can do it as a third party implementation..
>>
>> The other "third party" issue would be ebay: do I need to configure it
>> somehow?
>>
>> I saw it here:
>> http://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ebay/control/ManageOrdersFromEbay
>>
>> but I can not enable it even if the ofbiz I am working on it is pretty
>> new one - a checkout from march this year
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> Flopa
>>
>>
>>> My german is very rusty but I see a installation for oscommerce
>>> so you should be able to get the information you need.
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:50 PM:
>>>  
>>>> glad you got it fixed.
>>>> all of these were fulll java and or webbased.
>>>> they were converted to ofbiz
>>>> please look at all the third party code compared to what the vendors
>>>> said to get an idea
>>>> accounting\src\org\ofbiz\accounting\thirdparty
>>>>
>>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:12 PM:
>>>>    
>>>>> Hello Mr. Freeman,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your quick reply and willing to help, meanwhile it worked
>>>>> fine.
>>>>> The reason of failure was that I did not uncomment following lines:
>>>>>
>>>>> payment.paypal.redirect=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>> payment.paypal.confirm=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>>>
>>>>> It was mentioned to touch only above ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now the interesting parts starts...implementation of a customized
>>>>> payment - www.sofortueberweisung.de
>>>>> In this case, it seems a full java implementation is required.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Flopa
>>>>>      
>>>>>> will bring up mine and test
>>>>>> but here are some things to consider.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
>>>>>> you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
>>>>>> dedicated to this server?
>>>>>> have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
>>>>>> documentation)
>>>>>> what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>        
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
>>>>>>> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
>>>>>>> also configured ofbiz according to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I try a payment, I got this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>>>> [      PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not
>>>>>>> configured
>>>>>>> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>>>>>>>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>>>> [    RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an
>>>>>>> error with
>>>>>>> the following message:
>>>>>>> payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Flopa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>          
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>
>>>  
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: payment system was paypal

Florin Popa
In reply to this post by BJ Freeman
yes, I am aware of it..
ebay was another requested feature of the first deployed version - but
not related directly to the payment types..
I found something here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/QuickSearch.jspa

and I will try to see how it works

regards,
 Flopa

> ebay only export products and imports orders.
> there was work on it in may and August of this year.
> the actual payment is done through ebay so you would have to link your
> payments through them to you payments system
> so when the orders are downloaded they are all ready  paid for.
> the only payments that would be process through ofbiz are web order from
> the ecommerce and order entry.
>
>
>
> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 3:04 PM:
>  
>> Yes, I actually got this
>>
>> http://www.payment-network.com/images/downloads/20080819_documentation_directebanking.com_v1.3.pdf
>>
>>
>> so I assume I can do it as a third party implementation..
>>
>> The other "third party" issue would be ebay: do I need to configure it
>> somehow?
>>
>> I saw it here:
>> http://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ebay/control/ManageOrdersFromEbay
>>
>> but I can not enable it even if the ofbiz I am working on it is pretty
>> new one - a checkout from march this year
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> Flopa
>>
>>
>>    
>>> My german is very rusty but I see a installation for oscommerce
>>> so you should be able to get the information you need.
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:50 PM:
>>>  
>>>      
>>>> glad you got it fixed.
>>>> all of these were fulll java and or webbased.
>>>> they were converted to ofbiz
>>>> please look at all the third party code compared to what the vendors
>>>> said to get an idea
>>>> accounting\src\org\ofbiz\accounting\thirdparty
>>>>
>>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:12 PM:
>>>>    
>>>>        
>>>>> Hello Mr. Freeman,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your quick reply and willing to help, meanwhile it worked
>>>>> fine.
>>>>> The reason of failure was that I did not uncomment following lines:
>>>>>
>>>>> payment.paypal.redirect=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>> payment.paypal.confirm=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>>>
>>>>> It was mentioned to touch only above ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now the interesting parts starts...implementation of a customized
>>>>> payment - www.sofortueberweisung.de
>>>>> In this case, it seems a full java implementation is required.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Flopa
>>>>>      
>>>>>          
>>>>>> will bring up mine and test
>>>>>> but here are some things to consider.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
>>>>>> you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
>>>>>> dedicated to this server?
>>>>>> have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
>>>>>> documentation)
>>>>>> what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>        
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
>>>>>>> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
>>>>>>> also configured ofbiz according to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I try a payment, I got this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>>>> [      PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not
>>>>>>> configured
>>>>>>> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>>>>>>>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>>>> [    RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an
>>>>>>> error with
>>>>>>> the following message:
>>>>>>> payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Flopa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>            
>>>>    
>>>>        
>>>  
>>>      
>>    
>
>
>  

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Re: payment system was paypal

Florin Popa
In reply to this post by BJ Freeman
When this will be completed, I can try to commit as another third party
payment system

> I glance at directebanking.com_v1.3.pdf
> you can use most of the third parties as examples
> to do the same thing.
>
> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 3:33 PM:
>  
>> ebay only export products and imports orders.
>> there was work on it in may and August of this year.
>> the actual payment is done through ebay so you would have to link your
>> payments through them to you payments system
>> so when the orders are downloaded they are all ready  paid for.
>> the only payments that would be process through ofbiz are web order from
>> the ecommerce and order entry.
>>
>>
>>
>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 3:04 PM:
>>    
>>> Yes, I actually got this
>>>
>>> http://www.payment-network.com/images/downloads/20080819_documentation_directebanking.com_v1.3.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> so I assume I can do it as a third party implementation..
>>>
>>> The other "third party" issue would be ebay: do I need to configure it
>>> somehow?
>>>
>>> I saw it here:
>>> http://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ebay/control/ManageOrdersFromEbay
>>>
>>> but I can not enable it even if the ofbiz I am working on it is pretty
>>> new one - a checkout from march this year
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Flopa
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>> My german is very rusty but I see a installation for oscommerce
>>>> so you should be able to get the information you need.
>>>>
>>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:50 PM:
>>>>  
>>>>        
>>>>> glad you got it fixed.
>>>>> all of these were fulll java and or webbased.
>>>>> they were converted to ofbiz
>>>>> please look at all the third party code compared to what the vendors
>>>>> said to get an idea
>>>>> accounting\src\org\ofbiz\accounting\thirdparty
>>>>>
>>>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:12 PM:
>>>>>    
>>>>>          
>>>>>> Hello Mr. Freeman,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your quick reply and willing to help, meanwhile it worked
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>> The reason of failure was that I did not uncomment following lines:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> payment.paypal.redirect=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> payment.paypal.confirm=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was mentioned to touch only above ones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now the interesting parts starts...implementation of a customized
>>>>>> payment - www.sofortueberweisung.de
>>>>>> In this case, it seems a full java implementation is required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Flopa
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>> will bring up mine and test
>>>>>>> but here are some things to consider.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
>>>>>>> you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
>>>>>>> dedicated to this server?
>>>>>>> have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
>>>>>>> documentation)
>>>>>>> what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
>>>>>>>> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop, then I
>>>>>>>> also configured ofbiz according to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I try a payment, I got this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>>>>> [      PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not
>>>>>>>> configured
>>>>>>>> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>>>>>>>>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>>>>> [    RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an
>>>>>>>> error with
>>>>>>>> the following message:
>>>>>>>> payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Flopa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>    
>>>>>          
>>>>  
>>>>        
>>
>>
>>    
>
>
>  

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Re: LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP

BJ Freeman
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No.

Jacek Wagner sent the following on 8/27/2008 3:36 PM:

> BJ Freeman wrote:
>> that is transaction, like in updating data.
>>
>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:52 PM:
>>  
>>> TX stands for transaction
>>> you will note the LAST_UPDATED_STAMP is different also before you run
>>> the service
>>>
>>> Jacek Wagner sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:39 PM:
>>>    
>>>> What is  a purpose for having two (2) last updated datetimes
>>>> (LAST_UPDATED_STAMP, LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP).  Every time I run a
>>>> service
>>>> (any) those stamps are one or two seconds apart.
>>>>
>>>> Curious Jacek
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>
>>  
> Can you present a case where only LAST_UPDATED_STAMP  or
> LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP will be updated.
>
>
>
>

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Re: payment system was paypal

BJ Freeman
In reply to this post by Florin Popa
I have started some work on ebay that should be done soon
I put the skeletons of the service in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1911
Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 3:40 PM:

> yes, I am aware of it..
> ebay was another requested feature of the first deployed version - but
> not related directly to the payment types..
> I found something here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/QuickSearch.jspa
>
> and I will try to see how it works
>
> regards,
> Flopa
>
>> ebay only export products and imports orders.
>> there was work on it in may and August of this year.
>> the actual payment is done through ebay so you would have to link your
>> payments through them to you payments system
>> so when the orders are downloaded they are all ready  paid for.
>> the only payments that would be process through ofbiz are web order from
>> the ecommerce and order entry.
>>
>>
>>
>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 3:04 PM:
>>  
>>> Yes, I actually got this
>>>
>>> http://www.payment-network.com/images/downloads/20080819_documentation_directebanking.com_v1.3.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> so I assume I can do it as a third party implementation..
>>>
>>> The other "third party" issue would be ebay: do I need to configure it
>>> somehow?
>>>
>>> I saw it here:
>>> http://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ebay/control/ManageOrdersFromEbay
>>>
>>> but I can not enable it even if the ofbiz I am working on it is pretty
>>> new one - a checkout from march this year
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Flopa
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>> My german is very rusty but I see a installation for oscommerce
>>>> so you should be able to get the information you need.
>>>>
>>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:50 PM:
>>>>  
>>>>      
>>>>> glad you got it fixed.
>>>>> all of these were fulll java and or webbased.
>>>>> they were converted to ofbiz
>>>>> please look at all the third party code compared to what the vendors
>>>>> said to get an idea
>>>>> accounting\src\org\ofbiz\accounting\thirdparty
>>>>>
>>>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:12 PM:
>>>>>          
>>>>>> Hello Mr. Freeman,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your quick reply and willing to help, meanwhile it worked
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>> The reason of failure was that I did not uncomment following lines:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> payment.paypal.redirect=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> payment.paypal.confirm=https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was mentioned to touch only above ones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now the interesting parts starts...implementation of a customized
>>>>>> payment - www.sofortueberweisung.de
>>>>>> In this case, it seems a full java implementation is required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Flopa
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> will bring up mine and test
>>>>>>> but here are some things to consider.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assuming you are using the current svn or release branch.
>>>>>>> you are running with a fully qualified domain name or IP address
>>>>>>> dedicated to this server?
>>>>>>> have you given authorization in paypal to use the api? (not in
>>>>>>> documentation)
>>>>>>> what UL did you put in paypal for the notification URL box?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Florin Popa sent the following on 8/27/2008 1:18 PM:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am trying to use paypal payment type.
>>>>>>>> I configured inside ofbiz the proper payment type for a shop,
>>>>>>>> then I
>>>>>>>> also configured ofbiz according to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/Apache+OFBiz+Business+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizBusinessSetupGuide-paymentProcessorDetails
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and I am using a paypal sendbox test account.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I try a payment, I got this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,216 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>>>>> [      PayPalEvents.java:141:ERROR] Payment properties is not
>>>>>>>> configured
>>>>>>>> properly, some notify URL from PayPal is not correctly defined!
>>>>>>>>     [java] 2008-08-27 23:09:27,222 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-Processor3)
>>>>>>>> [    RequestHandler.java:305:ERROR] Request callPayPal caused an
>>>>>>>> error with
>>>>>>>> the following message:
>>>>>>>> payPalEvents.problemsGettingMerchantConfiguration
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Flopa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>            
>>>>        
>>>    
>>
>>
>>  
>
>

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Re: LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
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Just be curious ;o)

From http://docs.ofbiz.org/download/attachments/4369/AdvancedFrameworkTranscription20060824.pdf

So unlike a package that each entity fits in one and only
one of the groups are a data structure, rather than a
configuration file we can use to group an arbitrary set of
entities. Each group will have an ID and a name. In
the entity reference pages we do see the timestamps
that the entity engine automatically maintains for all
entities, unless you use the attribute we talked about in
the entity definitions to turn it off. But by default all entities
will have these four fields; lastUpdatedStamp, lastUpdatedTxStamp
(transaction), createdStamp, and
createdTxStamp..
The transaction stamps are when the transaction was
begun that the change is part of, and the stamps are
within that transaction, although they are an absolute
value. But to order the actual records that changed
within the transaction.
Okay and the entity engine does do things for these
stamp fields when it maintains them, by the way, that
ensure that within a transaction each updated or created
stamp, depending on whether it's a create or updated,
is unique for that transaction.
So it'll keep track of the last one and always increment
it by one, even if it's been less than a millisecond since
the other record went through. As long as you don't
have more than a thousand records going into the database
per second in a single transaction then you
shouldn't have problems with overflowing it too much.
But it is important that those are unique, so we can
order all the records by these stamps and basically
reproduce the transaction to send it over to the other
server. Even reproducing the transaction we can't always
eliminate problems with foreign keys, but we'll talk
about that in a bit. Anyway that's the intention here, to
reduce problems with foreign keys as much as possible
and recreate the data changes on the remote server
when the synchronization goes through

Remember : OFBiz was well thought out ! Be confident...

Jacques


From: "Jacek Wagner" <[hidden email]>

> BJ Freeman wrote:
>> that is transaction, like in updating data.
>>
>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:52 PM:
>>  
>>> TX stands for transaction
>>> you will note the LAST_UPDATED_STAMP is different also before you run
>>> the service
>>>
>>> Jacek Wagner sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:39 PM:
>>>    
>>>> What is  a purpose for having two (2) last updated datetimes
>>>> (LAST_UPDATED_STAMP, LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP).  Every time I run a service
>>>> (any) those stamps are one or two seconds apart.
>>>>
>>>> Curious Jacek
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>
>>  
> Can you present a case where only LAST_UPDATED_STAMP  or
> LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP will be updated.
>
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Re: LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP

Jacques Le Roux
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BTW as it comes over and over, I will do a FAQ for that...

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>

> Just be curious ;o)
>
> From http://docs.ofbiz.org/download/attachments/4369/AdvancedFrameworkTranscription20060824.pdf
>
> So unlike a package that each entity fits in one and only
> one of the groups are a data structure, rather than a
> configuration file we can use to group an arbitrary set of
> entities. Each group will have an ID and a name. In
> the entity reference pages we do see the timestamps
> that the entity engine automatically maintains for all
> entities, unless you use the attribute we talked about in
> the entity definitions to turn it off. But by default all entities
> will have these four fields; lastUpdatedStamp, lastUpdatedTxStamp
> (transaction), createdStamp, and
> createdTxStamp..
> The transaction stamps are when the transaction was
> begun that the change is part of, and the stamps are
> within that transaction, although they are an absolute
> value. But to order the actual records that changed
> within the transaction.
> Okay and the entity engine does do things for these
> stamp fields when it maintains them, by the way, that
> ensure that within a transaction each updated or created
> stamp, depending on whether it's a create or updated,
> is unique for that transaction.
> So it'll keep track of the last one and always increment
> it by one, even if it's been less than a millisecond since
> the other record went through. As long as you don't
> have more than a thousand records going into the database
> per second in a single transaction then you
> shouldn't have problems with overflowing it too much.
> But it is important that those are unique, so we can
> order all the records by these stamps and basically
> reproduce the transaction to send it over to the other
> server. Even reproducing the transaction we can't always
> eliminate problems with foreign keys, but we'll talk
> about that in a bit. Anyway that's the intention here, to
> reduce problems with foreign keys as much as possible
> and recreate the data changes on the remote server
> when the synchronization goes through
>
> Remember : OFBiz was well thought out ! Be confident...
>
> Jacques
>
>
> From: "Jacek Wagner" <[hidden email]>
>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> that is transaction, like in updating data.
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:52 PM:
>>>  
>>>> TX stands for transaction
>>>> you will note the LAST_UPDATED_STAMP is different also before you run
>>>> the service
>>>>
>>>> Jacek Wagner sent the following on 8/27/2008 2:39 PM:
>>>>    
>>>>> What is  a purpose for having two (2) last updated datetimes
>>>>> (LAST_UPDATED_STAMP, LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP).  Every time I run a service
>>>>> (any) those stamps are one or two seconds apart.
>>>>>
>>>>> Curious Jacek
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>
>>>  
>> Can you present a case where only LAST_UPDATED_STAMP  or
>> LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP will be updated.
>>
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Re: LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP

Jacques Le Roux
Administrator
In reply to this post by Jacques Le Roux
From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>
> Remember : OFBiz was well thought out ! Be confident...

Should have been
    OFBiz "has been" well thought out
but really is
    OFBiz "is and hopefully will be" well thought out
:D

> Jacques

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