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SkipDever

RE: Linux distro?

BJ

Thats a good idea, I would be particularly happy to hear about 64 bit
gotchas. I seem to remember hearing about memory > 2gigs causing a problem
with multiple CPUs and > 2gigs of memory or some such.

Skip

-----Original Message-----
From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:30 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Linux distro?

The only condsideration is if the distro you your plan to use supports
Sun SDK package.
as long as you have 1.5 or better on you box then you ok.
Fedora installs the opensource SDK and yum does not work to get the sun SDK.

Maybe we should put a doc file up that everyone can put what distro they
have tried and if they were sucessful or not.

clearchris sent the following on 10/2/2007 8:41 AM:
> I plan on running Gentoo, though many disagree with that choice.
>
> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/01/28/2227232.shtml
>
> I find that using the stable (non ~) branch with occasional upgrades to
~x86
> (unstable) programs runs quite well. It's the best of both worlds IMHO,
you
> can get the stable software and you can get the newer fixes that you
> inevitably will need. Best of all, it provides a nice framework for
> managing that complexity.
>
> If you plan on using the POS application under linux, I'd highly suggest
> using a 32 bit distribution, even if you have a 64 bit processor. Most
> (nearly all it seems) JavaPOS drivers have a native binary component that
is

> 32 bit. While AMD processors can run 32 bit code natively, the binary
> drivers require 32 bit system libraries, etc, which can get a bit
> interesting to set up.
>
> My 2c.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:05 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Linux distro?
>
> Thanks skip - just looking at a review on CentOS at the moment. Looks
> fairly impressive for server stability
>
> cheers
>
> Phil
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: skip@theDevers [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 1:59 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>
>> Instead of Fedora Core, give a look at CentOS. Its a good deal more
>> stable.
>> I have had lots of weird problems with Fedora in the past (usually fixed
>> within a few weeks, but still a pain when it happens).
>>
>> Skip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:01 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>
>>
>> Thanks BJ ... Now what distro would be more suited these days? I am
>> looking
>> at Fedora or Ununtu ... some may have preferences for viable reasons
>>
>> Thanks again ... quick reply to my question ... I think I am going to

>> setting up and configuring OFBiz
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:29 AM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: Download SVN Repository
>>>
>>> first read
>>>
>>

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Se

>>> tup+Guide\
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service
>>> may help.
>>> then on your linux box
>>> load svn
>>> some use wget
>>> then you can use the svn commands to load ofbiz.
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide
>>>
>>> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/1/2007 5:06 PM:
>>>> Hi Fellas
>>>> I am preparing a Linux box with OFBiz + PostgreSQL ... I have had
>>> Compiere
>>>> and OpenBravo installed on my windows server boxes and have
>> investigated
>>>> TinyERP however OFBiz seems to fit in better with my business model
>>> which
>>>> largely consists of virtual warehousing and drop ship ecommerce. This
>>> is my
>>>> first posting in this forum so excuse me if I have missed any protocol
>>> or my
>>>> questions seem simplistic. So here we go
>>>>
>>>> 1. How do I download from the required SVN repositories using windows?
>>>> 2. Search the list archives for threads other than scrolling through
>> one
>>> by
>>>> one?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>> Wikitec
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

BJ Freeman

Re: Linux distro?

In reply to this post by Jacques Le Roux

so should there be a Linux bugs in our JIRA
then link this one to it so others can be linked as well?

Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/2/2007 12:02 PM:

> POS : remember that AFAIK this issue still exists on Linux https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-567
>
> Jacques
>
> De : "clearchris" <[hidden email]>
>> I plan on running Gentoo, though many disagree with that choice.
>>
>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/01/28/2227232.shtml
>>
>> I find that using the stable (non ~) branch with occasional upgrades to ~x86
>> (unstable) programs runs quite well. It's the best of both worlds IMHO, you
>> can get the stable software and you can get the newer fixes that you
>> inevitably will need. Best of all, it provides a nice framework for
>> managing that complexity.
>>
>> If you plan on using the POS application under linux, I'd highly suggest
>> using a 32 bit distribution, even if you have a 64 bit processor. Most
>> (nearly all it seems) JavaPOS drivers have a native binary component that is
>> 32 bit. While AMD processors can run 32 bit code natively, the binary
>> drivers require 32 bit system libraries, etc, which can get a bit
>> interesting to set up.
>>
>> My 2c.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:05 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Linux distro?
>>
>> Thanks skip - just looking at a review on CentOS at the moment. Looks
>> fairly impressive for server stability
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: skip@theDevers [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 1:59 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>
>>> Instead of Fedora Core, give a look at CentOS. Its a good deal more
>>> stable.
>>> I have had lots of weird problems with Fedora in the past (usually fixed
>>> within a few weeks, but still a pain when it happens).
>>>
>>> Skip
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:01 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks BJ ... Now what distro would be more suited these days? I am
>>> looking
>>> at Fedora or Ununtu ... some may have preferences for viable reasons
>>>
>>> Thanks again ... quick reply to my question ... I think I am going to like
>>> setting up and configuring OFBiz
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:29 AM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: Re: Download SVN Repository
>>>>
>>>> first read
>>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Se
>>>> tup+Guide\
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service
>>>> may help.
>>>> then on your linux box
>>>> load svn
>>>> some use wget
>>>> then you can use the svn commands to load ofbiz.
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide
>>>>
>>>> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/1/2007 5:06 PM:
>>>>> Hi Fellas
>>>>> I am preparing a Linux box with OFBiz + PostgreSQL ... I have had
>>>> Compiere
>>>>> and OpenBravo installed on my windows server boxes and have
>>> investigated
>>>>> TinyERP however OFBiz seems to fit in better with my business model
>>>> which
>>>>> largely consists of virtual warehousing and drop ship ecommerce. This
>>>> is my
>>>>> first posting in this forum so excuse me if I have missed any protocol
>>>> or my
>>>>> questions seem simplistic. So here we go
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. How do I download from the required SVN repositories using windows?
>>>>> 2. Search the list archives for threads other than scrolling through
>>> one
>>>> by
>>>>> one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>> Wikitec
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

BJ Freeman

Re: Linux distro?

In reply to this post by SkipDever

Skip:
Not sure I want to open a can of worms or reporting linux problems
unless they specifically relate to ofbiz.
There are linux forums for general problems like you describe.

Skip sent the following on 10/2/2007 1:12 PM:

> BJ
>
> Thats a good idea, I would be particularly happy to hear about 64 bit
> gotchas. I seem to remember hearing about memory > 2gigs causing a problem
> with multiple CPUs and > 2gigs of memory or some such.
>
> Skip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:30 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Linux distro?
>
>
> The only condsideration is if the distro you your plan to use supports
> Sun SDK package.
> as long as you have 1.5 or better on you box then you ok.
> Fedora installs the opensource SDK and yum does not work to get the sun SDK.
>
> Maybe we should put a doc file up that everyone can put what distro they
> have tried and if they were sucessful or not.
>
>
>
> clearchris sent the following on 10/2/2007 8:41 AM:
>> I plan on running Gentoo, though many disagree with that choice.
>>
>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/01/28/2227232.shtml
>>
>> I find that using the stable (non ~) branch with occasional upgrades to
> ~x86
>> (unstable) programs runs quite well. It's the best of both worlds IMHO,
> you
>> can get the stable software and you can get the newer fixes that you
>> inevitably will need. Best of all, it provides a nice framework for
>> managing that complexity.
>>
>> If you plan on using the POS application under linux, I'd highly suggest
>> using a 32 bit distribution, even if you have a 64 bit processor. Most
>> (nearly all it seems) JavaPOS drivers have a native binary component that
> is
>> 32 bit. While AMD processors can run 32 bit code natively, the binary
>> drivers require 32 bit system libraries, etc, which can get a bit
>> interesting to set up.
>>
>> My 2c.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:05 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Linux distro?
>>
>> Thanks skip - just looking at a review on CentOS at the moment. Looks
>> fairly impressive for server stability
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: skip@theDevers [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 1:59 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>
>>> Instead of Fedora Core, give a look at CentOS. Its a good deal more
>>> stable.
>>> I have had lots of weird problems with Fedora in the past (usually fixed
>>> within a few weeks, but still a pain when it happens).
>>>
>>> Skip
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:01 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks BJ ... Now what distro would be more suited these days? I am
>>> looking
>>> at Fedora or Ununtu ... some may have preferences for viable reasons
>>>
>>> Thanks again ... quick reply to my question ... I think I am going to
> like
>>> setting up and configuring OFBiz
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:29 AM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: Re: Download SVN Repository
>>>>
>>>> first read
>>>>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Se
>>>> tup+Guide\
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service
>>>> may help.
>>>> then on your linux box
>>>> load svn
>>>> some use wget
>>>> then you can use the svn commands to load ofbiz.
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide
>>>>
>>>> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/1/2007 5:06 PM:
>>>>> Hi Fellas
>>>>> I am preparing a Linux box with OFBiz + PostgreSQL ... I have had
>>>> Compiere
>>>>> and OpenBravo installed on my windows server boxes and have
>>> investigated
>>>>> TinyERP however OFBiz seems to fit in better with my business model
>>>> which
>>>>> largely consists of virtual warehousing and drop ship ecommerce. This
>>>> is my
>>>>> first posting in this forum so excuse me if I have missed any protocol
>>>> or my
>>>>> questions seem simplistic. So here we go
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. How do I download from the required SVN repositories using windows?
>>>>> 2. Search the list archives for threads other than scrolling through
>>> one
>>>> by
>>>>> one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>> Wikitec
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Christopher L

RE: Linux distro?

In reply to this post by Jacques Le Roux

The "UseWindow=false" setting seems to make the POS work as I would expect
the POS to work (i.e. no title bar and it runs un-windowed). The only
difference is that there's the issue of being able to alt-tab to other
screens, but I think that's more an OS security issue and less a POS
application issue.

It would probably be good to have links to documentation on how to harden an
X session or protect the passwords to the database, etc. Unfortunately, I
don't have much to offer on that issue as I haven't looked into it yet. It
has definitely been on my mind though.

On a related note, I think I may know what is causing the double keyboard
events in linux mentioned in the ticket. I was seeing a similar problem
with mouse clicks and changing the event handler worked.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacques Le Roux [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:03 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Linux distro?

POS : remember that AFAIK this issue still exists on Linux
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-567

Jacques

De : "clearchris" <[hidden email]>
> I plan on running Gentoo, though many disagree with that choice.
>
> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/01/28/2227232.shtml
>
> I find that using the stable (non ~) branch with occasional upgrades to
~x86
> (unstable) programs runs quite well. It's the best of both worlds IMHO,
you
> can get the stable software and you can get the newer fixes that you
> inevitably will need. Best of all, it provides a nice framework for
> managing that complexity.
>
> If you plan on using the POS application under linux, I'd highly suggest
> using a 32 bit distribution, even if you have a 64 bit processor. Most
> (nearly all it seems) JavaPOS drivers have a native binary component that
is

> 32 bit. While AMD processors can run 32 bit code natively, the binary
> drivers require 32 bit system libraries, etc, which can get a bit
> interesting to set up.
>
> My 2c.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:05 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Linux distro?
>
> Thanks skip - just looking at a review on CentOS at the moment. Looks
> fairly impressive for server stability
>
> cheers
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: skip@theDevers [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 1:59 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
> >
> > Instead of Fedora Core, give a look at CentOS. Its a good deal more
> > stable.
> > I have had lots of weird problems with Fedora in the past (usually fixed
> > within a few weeks, but still a pain when it happens).
> >
> > Skip
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:01 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
> >
> >
> > Thanks BJ ... Now what distro would be more suited these days? I am
> > looking
> > at Fedora or Ununtu ... some may have preferences for viable reasons
> >
> > Thanks again ... quick reply to my question ... I think I am going to

> > setting up and configuring OFBiz
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:29 AM
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Subject: Re: Download SVN Repository
> > >
> > > first read
> > >
> >

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Se

This
> > > is my
> > > > first posting in this forum so excuse me if I have missed any
protocol
> > > or my
> > > > questions seem simplistic. So here we go
> > > >
> > > > 1. How do I download from the required SVN repositories using
windows?

> > > > 2. Search the list archives for threads other than scrolling through
> > one
> > > by
> > > > one?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > Wikitec
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
>

jonwimp

Re: Linux distro?

In reply to this post by SkipDever

A couple of clients I have use 64-bit AMD machines. I recall there weren't any official Sun SDKs
supporting those machines. My clients were forced to use some other non-Sun SDKs. Not good. Lots
of bizarre issues.

As for 64-bit gotchas, I wouldn't be surprised. Newer hardwares often have new problems. I try to
go with mainstream models. Cluster up a few mainstream workhorses if we need more power.

Jonathon

Skip wrote:

wikitec

CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz

Thanks for your input relating my previous questions, I am interested in
implementing some sort of Helpdesk/CRM system and I am interested in what
facilities OFBiz already has

Thanks
Phil

Christopher L

RE: Linux distro?

In reply to this post by jonwimp

Sun did release a 64 bit version of java for linux, and I haven't
encountered any issues with it and ofbiz, other than being incompatible with
the 32bit pos hardware drivers.

C

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Linux distro?

A couple of clients I have use 64-bit AMD machines. I recall there weren't
any official Sun SDKs
supporting those machines. My clients were forced to use some other non-Sun
SDKs. Not good. Lots
of bizarre issues.

As for 64-bit gotchas, I wouldn't be surprised. Newer hardwares often have
new problems. I try to
go with mainstream models. Cluster up a few mainstream workhorses if we need
more power.

Jonathon

Skip wrote:
> BJ
>
> Thats a good idea, I would be particularly happy to hear about 64 bit
> gotchas. I seem to remember hearing about memory > 2gigs causing a
problem

> with multiple CPUs and > 2gigs of memory or some such.
>
> Skip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:30 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Linux distro?
>
>
> The only condsideration is if the distro you your plan to use supports
> Sun SDK package.
> as long as you have 1.5 or better on you box then you ok.
> Fedora installs the opensource SDK and yum does not work to get the sun

SDK.

>
> Maybe we should put a doc file up that everyone can put what distro they
> have tried and if they were sucessful or not.
>
>
>
> clearchris sent the following on 10/2/2007 8:41 AM:
>> I plan on running Gentoo, though many disagree with that choice.
>>
>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/01/28/2227232.shtml
>>
>> I find that using the stable (non ~) branch with occasional upgrades to
> ~x86
>> (unstable) programs runs quite well. It's the best of both worlds IMHO,
> you
>> can get the stable software and you can get the newer fixes that you
>> inevitably will need. Best of all, it provides a nice framework for
>> managing that complexity.
>>
>> If you plan on using the POS application under linux, I'd highly suggest
>> using a 32 bit distribution, even if you have a 64 bit processor. Most
>> (nearly all it seems) JavaPOS drivers have a native binary component that
> is
>> 32 bit. While AMD processors can run 32 bit code natively, the binary
>> drivers require 32 bit system libraries, etc, which can get a bit
>> interesting to set up.
>>
>> My 2c.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:05 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Linux distro?
>>
>> Thanks skip - just looking at a review on CentOS at the moment. Looks
>> fairly impressive for server stability
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: skip@theDevers [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 1:59 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>
>>> Instead of Fedora Core, give a look at CentOS. Its a good deal more
>>> stable.
>>> I have had lots of weird problems with Fedora in the past (usually fixed
>>> within a few weeks, but still a pain when it happens).
>>>
>>> Skip
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:01 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks BJ ... Now what distro would be more suited these days? I am
>>> looking
>>> at Fedora or Ununtu ... some may have preferences for viable reasons
>>>
>>> Thanks again ... quick reply to my question ... I think I am going to
> like
>>> setting up and configuring OFBiz
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:29 AM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: Re: Download SVN Repository
>>>>
>>>> first read
>>>>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Se
>>>> tup+Guide\
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service
>>>> may help.
>>>> then on your linux box
>>>> load svn
>>>> some use wget
>>>> then you can use the svn commands to load ofbiz.
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide
>>>>
>>>> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/1/2007 5:06 PM:
>>>>> Hi Fellas
>>>>> I am preparing a Linux box with OFBiz + PostgreSQL ... I have had
>>>> Compiere
>>>>> and OpenBravo installed on my windows server boxes and have
>>> investigated
>>>>> TinyERP however OFBiz seems to fit in better with my business model
>>>> which
>>>>> largely consists of virtual warehousing and drop ship ecommerce. This
>>>> is my
>>>>> first posting in this forum so excuse me if I have missed any protocol
>>>> or my
>>>>> questions seem simplistic. So here we go
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. How do I download from the required SVN repositories using windows?
>>>>> 2. Search the list archives for threads other than scrolling through
>>> one
>>>> by
>>>>> one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>> Wikitec
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

BJ Freeman

Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz

In reply to this post by wikitec

there at least two efforts going that i know of.
the data model pretty much has all that you need.
Si's implementation does not totally integrate with the current data
storage. it is built on ofbiz but is supported under opentaps.
Mine is something I am bringing over from Java SWT and SQL db.
Once I figure out how to show the UI I want in widgets I will release
it. Currently for my clients I use a java sWT that connects to ofbiz.
It is built entirely within the current ofbiz datamodel.
as soon as I get some irons of the fire will focus on it more

Philip Laing sent the following on 10/2/2007 7:36 PM:

> Thanks for your input relating my previous questions, I am interested in
> implementing some sort of Helpdesk/CRM system and I am interested in what
> facilities OFBiz already has
>
> Thanks
> Phil
>
>
>
>

wikitec

RE: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz

Cool

Perhaps when I get that far with my implementation I might be able to help

cheers

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2007 1:26 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz
>
> there at least two efforts going that i know of.
> the data model pretty much has all that you need.
> Si's implementation does not totally integrate with the current data
> storage. it is built on ofbiz but is supported under opentaps.
> Mine is something I am bringing over from Java SWT and SQL db.
> Once I figure out how to show the UI I want in widgets I will release
> it. Currently for my clients I use a java sWT that connects to ofbiz.
> It is built entirely within the current ofbiz datamodel.
> as soon as I get some irons of the fire will focus on it more
>
>
>
> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/2/2007 7:36 PM:
> > Thanks for your input relating my previous questions, I am interested in
> > implementing some sort of Helpdesk/CRM system and I am interested in
> what
> > facilities OFBiz already has
> >
> > Thanks
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >

SkipDever

RE: Linux distro?

In reply to this post by jonwimp

Jonathon

Once again, thanks for the insite.

Skip

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:27 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Linux distro?

A couple of clients I have use 64-bit AMD machines. I recall there weren't
any official Sun SDKs
supporting those machines. My clients were forced to use some other non-Sun
SDKs. Not good. Lots
of bizarre issues.

As for 64-bit gotchas, I wouldn't be surprised. Newer hardwares often have
new problems. I try to
go with mainstream models. Cluster up a few mainstream workhorses if we need
more power.

Jonathon

Skip wrote:
> BJ
>
> Thats a good idea, I would be particularly happy to hear about 64 bit
> gotchas. I seem to remember hearing about memory > 2gigs causing a
problem

SDK.

jonwimp

Re: Linux distro?

In reply to this post by jonwimp

For 64-bit AMD? That'll be good. Last I saw, there were only versions for 64-bit Intel.

Jonathon

clearchris wrote:

> Sun did release a 64 bit version of java for linux, and I haven't
> encountered any issues with it and ofbiz, other than being incompatible with
> the 32bit pos hardware drivers.
>
> C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Linux distro?
>
> A couple of clients I have use 64-bit AMD machines. I recall there weren't
> any official Sun SDKs
> supporting those machines. My clients were forced to use some other non-Sun
> SDKs. Not good. Lots
> of bizarre issues.
>
> As for 64-bit gotchas, I wouldn't be surprised. Newer hardwares often have
> new problems. I try to
> go with mainstream models. Cluster up a few mainstream workhorses if we need
> more power.
>
> Jonathon
>
> Skip wrote:
>> BJ
>>
>> Thats a good idea, I would be particularly happy to hear about 64 bit
>> gotchas. I seem to remember hearing about memory > 2gigs causing a
> problem
>> with multiple CPUs and > 2gigs of memory or some such.
>>
>> Skip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:30 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: Linux distro?
>>
>>
>> The only condsideration is if the distro you your plan to use supports
>> Sun SDK package.
>> as long as you have 1.5 or better on you box then you ok.
>> Fedora installs the opensource SDK and yum does not work to get the sun
> SDK.
>> Maybe we should put a doc file up that everyone can put what distro they
>> have tried and if they were sucessful or not.
>>
>>
>>
>> clearchris sent the following on 10/2/2007 8:41 AM:
>>> I plan on running Gentoo, though many disagree with that choice.
>>>
>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/01/28/2227232.shtml
>>>
>>> I find that using the stable (non ~) branch with occasional upgrades to
>> ~x86
>>> (unstable) programs runs quite well. It's the best of both worlds IMHO,
>> you
>>> can get the stable software and you can get the newer fixes that you
>>> inevitably will need. Best of all, it provides a nice framework for
>>> managing that complexity.
>>>
>>> If you plan on using the POS application under linux, I'd highly suggest
>>> using a 32 bit distribution, even if you have a 64 bit processor. Most
>>> (nearly all it seems) JavaPOS drivers have a native binary component that
>> is
>>> 32 bit. While AMD processors can run 32 bit code natively, the binary
>>> drivers require 32 bit system libraries, etc, which can get a bit
>>> interesting to set up.
>>>
>>> My 2c.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:05 AM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Linux distro?
>>>
>>> Thanks skip - just looking at a review on CentOS at the moment. Looks
>>> fairly impressive for server stability
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: skip@theDevers [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 1:59 PM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>>
>>>> Instead of Fedora Core, give a look at CentOS. Its a good deal more
>>>> stable.
>>>> I have had lots of weird problems with Fedora in the past (usually fixed
>>>> within a few weeks, but still a pain when it happens).
>>>>
>>>> Skip
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:01 PM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks BJ ... Now what distro would be more suited these days? I am
>>>> looking
>>>> at Fedora or Ununtu ... some may have preferences for viable reasons
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again ... quick reply to my question ... I think I am going to
>> like
>>>> setting up and configuring OFBiz
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:29 AM
>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Download SVN Repository
>>>>>
>>>>> first read
>>>>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Se
>>>>> tup+Guide\
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service
>>>>> may help.
>>>>> then on your linux box
>>>>> load svn
>>>>> some use wget
>>>>> then you can use the svn commands to load ofbiz.
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide
>>>>>
>>>>> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/1/2007 5:06 PM:
>>>>>> Hi Fellas
>>>>>> I am preparing a Linux box with OFBiz + PostgreSQL ... I have had
>>>>> Compiere
>>>>>> and OpenBravo installed on my windows server boxes and have
>>>> investigated
>>>>>> TinyERP however OFBiz seems to fit in better with my business model
>>>>> which
>>>>>> largely consists of virtual warehousing and drop ship ecommerce. This
>>>>> is my
>>>>>> first posting in this forum so excuse me if I have missed any protocol
>>>>> or my
>>>>>> questions seem simplistic. So here we go
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. How do I download from the required SVN repositories using windows?
>>>>>> 2. Search the list archives for threads other than scrolling through
>>>> one
>>>>> by
>>>>>> one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>> Wikitec
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

SkipDever

RE: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz

In reply to this post by BJ Freeman

BJ

SWT as in Eclipse SWT?

Skip

-----Original Message-----
From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:26 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz

there at least two efforts going that i know of.
the data model pretty much has all that you need.
Si's implementation does not totally integrate with the current data
storage. it is built on ofbiz but is supported under opentaps.
Mine is something I am bringing over from Java SWT and SQL db.
Once I figure out how to show the UI I want in widgets I will release
it. Currently for my clients I use a java sWT that connects to ofbiz.
It is built entirely within the current ofbiz datamodel.
as soon as I get some irons of the fire will focus on it more

Philip Laing sent the following on 10/2/2007 7:36 PM:

SkipDever

RE: Linux distro?

In reply to this post by jonwimp

I have found the IBM sdk to be superior to Suns, although I haven't used it
on a 64 bit platform. Its memory management is better and it seems more
stable in my testing. If you have memory leak problems, it has great tools
to track them down.

Skip

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:56 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: Linux distro?

For 64-bit AMD? That'll be good. Last I saw, there were only versions for
64-bit Intel.

Jonathon

clearchris wrote:
> Sun did release a 64 bit version of java for linux, and I haven't
> encountered any issues with it and ofbiz, other than being incompatible
with

> the 32bit pos hardware drivers.
>
> C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Linux distro?
>
> A couple of clients I have use 64-bit AMD machines. I recall there weren't
> any official Sun SDKs
> supporting those machines. My clients were forced to use some other

non-Sun
> SDKs. Not good. Lots
> of bizarre issues.
>
> As for 64-bit gotchas, I wouldn't be surprised. Newer hardwares often have
> new problems. I try to
> go with mainstream models. Cluster up a few mainstream workhorses if we
need

> more power.
>
> Jonathon
>
> Skip wrote:
>> BJ
>>
>> Thats a good idea, I would be particularly happy to hear about 64 bit
>> gotchas. I seem to remember hearing about memory > 2gigs causing a
> problem
>> with multiple CPUs and > 2gigs of memory or some such.
>>
>> Skip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:30 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: Linux distro?
>>
>>
>> The only condsideration is if the distro you your plan to use supports
>> Sun SDK package.
>> as long as you have 1.5 or better on you box then you ok.
>> Fedora installs the opensource SDK and yum does not work to get the sun
> SDK.
>> Maybe we should put a doc file up that everyone can put what distro they
>> have tried and if they were sucessful or not.
>>
>>
>>
>> clearchris sent the following on 10/2/2007 8:41 AM:
>>> I plan on running Gentoo, though many disagree with that choice.
>>>
>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/01/28/2227232.shtml
>>>
>>> I find that using the stable (non ~) branch with occasional upgrades to
>> ~x86
>>> (unstable) programs runs quite well. It's the best of both worlds IMHO,
>> you
>>> can get the stable software and you can get the newer fixes that you
>>> inevitably will need. Best of all, it provides a nice framework for
>>> managing that complexity.
>>>
>>> If you plan on using the POS application under linux, I'd highly suggest
>>> using a 32 bit distribution, even if you have a 64 bit processor. Most
>>> (nearly all it seems) JavaPOS drivers have a native binary component

that

>> is
>>> 32 bit. While AMD processors can run 32 bit code natively, the binary
>>> drivers require 32 bit system libraries, etc, which can get a bit
>>> interesting to set up.
>>>
>>> My 2c.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:05 AM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Linux distro?
>>>
>>> Thanks skip - just looking at a review on CentOS at the moment. Looks
>>> fairly impressive for server stability
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: skip@theDevers [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 1:59 PM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>>
>>>> Instead of Fedora Core, give a look at CentOS. Its a good deal more
>>>> stable.
>>>> I have had lots of weird problems with Fedora in the past (usually

fixed

>>>> within a few weeks, but still a pain when it happens).
>>>>
>>>> Skip
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:01 PM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks BJ ... Now what distro would be more suited these days? I am
>>>> looking
>>>> at Fedora or Ununtu ... some may have preferences for viable reasons
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again ... quick reply to my question ... I think I am going to
>> like
>>>> setting up and configuring OFBiz
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:29 AM
>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Download SVN Repository
>>>>>
>>>>> first read
>>>>>
>>

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Se

>>>>> tup+Guide\
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service
>>>>> may help.
>>>>> then on your linux box
>>>>> load svn
>>>>> some use wget
>>>>> then you can use the svn commands to load ofbiz.
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide
>>>>>
>>>>> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/1/2007 5:06 PM:
>>>>>> Hi Fellas
>>>>>> I am preparing a Linux box with OFBiz + PostgreSQL ... I have had
>>>>> Compiere
>>>>>> and OpenBravo installed on my windows server boxes and have
>>>> investigated
>>>>>> TinyERP however OFBiz seems to fit in better with my business model
>>>>> which
>>>>>> largely consists of virtual warehousing and drop ship ecommerce.

This
>>>>> is my
>>>>>> first posting in this forum so excuse me if I have missed any
protocol
>>>>> or my
>>>>>> questions seem simplistic. So here we go
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. How do I download from the required SVN repositories using
windows?

>>>>>> 2. Search the list archives for threads other than scrolling through
>>>> one
>>>>> by
>>>>>> one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>> Wikitec
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

Shi Jinghai

RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?

In reply to this post by SkipDever

Fedora is still the best. Here are the steps you may ignore:

1. In Fedora 4/5/6, the standard jdk version is 1.4.2. If you want to
update it to 1.5.0, you need to:
1.1 download jdk-1_5_0_12-linux-i586-rpm.bin (not the rpm) from
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp
1.2 chmod 0700 jdk-1_5_0_12-linux-i586-rpm.bin
1.3 ./jdk-1_5_0_12-linux-i586-rpm.bin
1.4 there should be a directory /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_12 with all java
contents
1.5 download java-1.5.0-sun-compat-1.5.0.12-1jpp.i586.rpm from
ftp://jpackage.hmdc.harvard.edu/JPackage/1.7/generic/RPMS.non-free/java-1.5.0-sun-compat-1.5.0.12-1jpp.i586.rpm
1.6 rpm -ivh java-1.5.0-sun-compat-1.5.0.12-1jpp.i586.rpm
1.7 run "alternatives --config java" to select the right jdk version

2. download OFBiz source code and deploy it NOT under root folder.

3. run ofbiz.

Enjoy it. For jdk 1.6.0, the configuration steps are similar.

Regards,

Shi Jinghai/Beijing Langhua Ltd.

在 2007-10-01一的 20:59 -0700，skip@theDevers写道：

> Instead of Fedora Core, give a look at CentOS. Its a good deal more stable.
> I have had lots of weird problems with Fedora in the past (usually fixed
> within a few weeks, but still a pain when it happens).
>
> Skip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:01 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>
>
> Thanks BJ ... Now what distro would be more suited these days? I am looking
> at Fedora or Ununtu ... some may have preferences for viable reasons
>
> Thanks again ... quick reply to my question ... I think I am going to like
> setting up and configuring OFBiz
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:29 AM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: Download SVN Repository
> >
> > first read
> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Se
> > tup+Guide\
> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service
> > may help.
> > then on your linux box
> > load svn
> > some use wget
> > then you can use the svn commands to load ofbiz.
> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide
> >
> > Philip Laing sent the following on 10/1/2007 5:06 PM:
> > > Hi Fellas
> > > I am preparing a Linux box with OFBiz + PostgreSQL ... I have had
> > Compiere
> > > and OpenBravo installed on my windows server boxes and have investigated
> > > TinyERP however OFBiz seems to fit in better with my business model
> > which
> > > largely consists of virtual warehousing and drop ship ecommerce. This
> > is my
> > > first posting in this forum so excuse me if I have missed any protocol
> > or my
> > > questions seem simplistic. So here we go
> > >
> > > 1. How do I download from the required SVN repositories using windows?
> > > 2. Search the list archives for threads other than scrolling through one
> > by
> > > one?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Wikitec
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

Jacques Le Roux

Linux specific bugs [was Re: Linux distro?]

Administrator

In reply to this post by BJ Freeman

Yes, why not ? Though I'm not aware of any other Linux specific bugs

Jacques

De : "BJ Freeman" <[hidden email]>

> so should there be a Linux bugs in our JIRA
> then link this one to it so others can be linked as well?
>
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/2/2007 12:02 PM:
> > POS : remember that AFAIK this issue still exists on Linux https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-567
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > De : "clearchris" <[hidden email]>
> >> I plan on running Gentoo, though many disagree with that choice.
> >>
> >> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/01/28/2227232.shtml
> >>
> >> I find that using the stable (non ~) branch with occasional upgrades to ~x86
> >> (unstable) programs runs quite well. It's the best of both worlds IMHO, you
> >> can get the stable software and you can get the newer fixes that you
> >> inevitably will need. Best of all, it provides a nice framework for
> >> managing that complexity.
> >>
> >> If you plan on using the POS application under linux, I'd highly suggest
> >> using a 32 bit distribution, even if you have a 64 bit processor. Most
> >> (nearly all it seems) JavaPOS drivers have a native binary component that is
> >> 32 bit. While AMD processors can run 32 bit code natively, the binary
> >> drivers require 32 bit system libraries, etc, which can get a bit
> >> interesting to set up.
> >>
> >> My 2c.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:05 AM
> >> To: [hidden email]
> >> Subject: Linux distro?
> >>
> >> Thanks skip - just looking at a review on CentOS at the moment. Looks
> >> fairly impressive for server stability
> >>
> >> cheers
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: skip@theDevers [mailto:[hidden email]]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 1:59 PM
> >>> To: [hidden email]
> >>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
> >>>
> >>> Instead of Fedora Core, give a look at CentOS. Its a good deal more
> >>> stable.
> >>> I have had lots of weird problems with Fedora in the past (usually fixed
> >>> within a few weeks, but still a pain when it happens).
> >>>
> >>> Skip
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
> >>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:01 PM
> >>> To: [hidden email]
> >>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks BJ ... Now what distro would be more suited these days? I am
> >>> looking
> >>> at Fedora or Ununtu ... some may have preferences for viable reasons
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again ... quick reply to my question ... I think I am going to like
> >>> setting up and configuring OFBiz
> >>>
> >>> Phil
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:29 AM
> >>>> To: [hidden email]
> >>>> Subject: Re: Download SVN Repository
> >>>>
> >>>> first read
> >>>>
> >>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Se
> >>>> tup+Guide\
> >>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service
> >>>> may help.
> >>>> then on your linux box
> >>>> load svn
> >>>> some use wget
> >>>> then you can use the svn commands to load ofbiz.
> >>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide
> >>>>
> >>>> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/1/2007 5:06 PM:
> >>>>> Hi Fellas
> >>>>> I am preparing a Linux box with OFBiz + PostgreSQL ... I have had
> >>>> Compiere
> >>>>> and OpenBravo installed on my windows server boxes and have
> >>> investigated
> >>>>> TinyERP however OFBiz seems to fit in better with my business model
> >>>> which
> >>>>> largely consists of virtual warehousing and drop ship ecommerce. This
> >>>> is my
> >>>>> first posting in this forum so excuse me if I have missed any protocol
> >>>> or my
> >>>>> questions seem simplistic. So here we go
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. How do I download from the required SVN repositories using windows?
> >>>>> 2. Search the list archives for threads other than scrolling through
> >>> one
> >>>> by
> >>>>> one?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks in advance
> >>>>> Wikitec
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

jonwimp

Re: Linux distro?

In reply to this post by jonwimp

Er... correction. I think my clients needed to use SDK 1.4 . And there was no support for 64-bit
AMD (or 64-bit anything, can't recall).

There should be SDKs for 64-bit AMD and Intel from SDK 1.5 and above.

Jonathon

Jonathon -- Improov wrote:

> For 64-bit AMD? That'll be good. Last I saw, there were only versions
> for 64-bit Intel.
>
> Jonathon
>
> clearchris wrote:
>> Sun did release a 64 bit version of java for linux, and I haven't
>> encountered any issues with it and ofbiz, other than being
>> incompatible with
>> the 32bit pos hardware drivers.
>>
>> C
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonathon -- Improov [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Tuesday,
>> October 02, 2007 9:27 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: Linux distro?
>>
>> A couple of clients I have use 64-bit AMD machines. I recall there
>> weren't
>> any official Sun SDKs supporting those machines. My clients were
>> forced to use some other non-Sun
>> SDKs. Not good. Lots of bizarre issues.
>>
>> As for 64-bit gotchas, I wouldn't be surprised. Newer hardwares often
>> have
>> new problems. I try to go with mainstream models. Cluster up a few
>> mainstream workhorses if we need
>> more power.
>>
>> Jonathon
>>
>> Skip wrote:
>>> BJ
>>>
>>> Thats a good idea, I would be particularly happy to hear about 64 bit
>>> gotchas. I seem to remember hearing about memory > 2gigs causing a
>> problem
>>> with multiple CPUs and > 2gigs of memory or some such.
>>>
>>> Skip
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:30 AM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: Linux distro?
>>>
>>>
>>> The only condsideration is if the distro you your plan to use supports
>>> Sun SDK package.
>>> as long as you have 1.5 or better on you box then you ok.
>>> Fedora installs the opensource SDK and yum does not work to get the sun
>> SDK.
>>> Maybe we should put a doc file up that everyone can put what distro they
>>> have tried and if they were sucessful or not.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> clearchris sent the following on 10/2/2007 8:41 AM:
>>>> I plan on running Gentoo, though many disagree with that choice.
>>>>
>>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/01/28/2227232.shtml
>>>>
>>>> I find that using the stable (non ~) branch with occasional upgrades to
>>> ~x86
>>>> (unstable) programs runs quite well. It's the best of both worlds
>>>> IMHO,
>>> you
>>>> can get the stable software and you can get the newer fixes that you
>>>> inevitably will need. Best of all, it provides a nice framework for
>>>> managing that complexity.
>>>>
>>>> If you plan on using the POS application under linux, I'd highly
>>>> suggest
>>>> using a 32 bit distribution, even if you have a 64 bit processor. Most
>>>> (nearly all it seems) JavaPOS drivers have a native binary component
>>>> that
>>> is
>>>> 32 bit. While AMD processors can run 32 bit code natively, the binary
>>>> drivers require 32 bit system libraries, etc, which can get a bit
>>>> interesting to set up.
>>>>
>>>> My 2c.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:05 AM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: Linux distro?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks skip - just looking at a review on CentOS at the moment. Looks
>>>> fairly impressive for server stability
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: skip@theDevers [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 1:59 PM
>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of Fedora Core, give a look at CentOS. Its a good deal more
>>>>> stable.
>>>>> I have had lots of weird problems with Fedora in the past (usually
>>>>> fixed
>>>>> within a few weeks, but still a pain when it happens).
>>>>>
>>>>> Skip
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Philip Laing [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:01 PM
>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>> Subject: RE: Download SVN Repository ... Linux distro?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks BJ ... Now what distro would be more suited these days? I am
>>>>> looking
>>>>> at Fedora or Ununtu ... some may have preferences for viable reasons
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again ... quick reply to my question ... I think I am going to
>>> like
>>>>> setting up and configuring OFBiz
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:29 AM
>>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Download SVN Repository
>>>>>>
>>>>>> first read
>>>>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Se
>>>
>>>>>> tup+Guide\
>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/How+to+run+OFBiz+as+a+Service
>>>>>> may help.
>>>>>> then on your linux box
>>>>>> load svn
>>>>>> some use wget
>>>>>> then you can use the svn commands to load ofbiz.
>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/1/2007 5:06 PM:
>>>>>>> Hi Fellas
>>>>>>> I am preparing a Linux box with OFBiz + PostgreSQL ... I have had
>>>>>> Compiere
>>>>>>> and OpenBravo installed on my windows server boxes and have
>>>>> investigated
>>>>>>> TinyERP however OFBiz seems to fit in better with my business model
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> largely consists of virtual warehousing and drop ship ecommerce.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>> is my
>>>>>>> first posting in this forum so excuse me if I have missed any
>>>>>>> protocol
>>>>>> or my
>>>>>>> questions seem simplistic. So here we go
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. How do I download from the required SVN repositories using
>>>>>>> windows?
>>>>>>> 2. Search the list archives for threads other than scrolling through
>>>>> one
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> one?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>>> Wikitec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

BJ Freeman

Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz

In reply to this post by SkipDever

basically yes.
the tool i used added some classes to better manage things.
http://www.elance.com/p/?q=eolproviderprofile&view_person=BJFreeman&catid=10182#tab=1
click on Java CRM

skip@theDevers sent the following on 10/2/2007 8:55 PM:

> BJ
>
> SWT as in Eclipse SWT?
>
> Skip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:26 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz
>
>
> there at least two efforts going that i know of.
> the data model pretty much has all that you need.
> Si's implementation does not totally integrate with the current data
> storage. it is built on ofbiz but is supported under opentaps.
> Mine is something I am bringing over from Java SWT and SQL db.
> Once I figure out how to show the UI I want in widgets I will release
> it. Currently for my clients I use a java sWT that connects to ofbiz.
> It is built entirely within the current ofbiz datamodel.
> as soon as I get some irons of the fire will focus on it more
>
>
>
> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/2/2007 7:36 PM:
>> Thanks for your input relating my previous questions, I am interested in
>> implementing some sort of Helpdesk/CRM system and I am interested in what
>> facilities OFBiz already has
>>
>> Thanks
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

SkipDever

RE: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz

I'd like to see the SWT code as it is. To heck with translating it to use
web based widgets.

I gotta set up a web site soon to hold code like this.

Skip

-----Original Message-----
From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:06 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz

basically yes.
the tool i used added some classes to better manage things.
http://www.elance.com/p/?q=eolproviderprofile&view_person=BJFreeman&catid=10
182#tab=1
click on Java CRM

skip@theDevers sent the following on 10/2/2007 8:55 PM:

David E Jones

Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz

I'm not sure where this thread is leading or how it's related to
OFBiz...

In any case, there is CRM functionality in OFBiz. The first step
would be defining in a little more detail what you mean by "CRM"
since that means very different things in different companies. OFBiz
does offer a single view into customer interactions including web
site visits, phone/email/in-person/etc communications, requests,
quotes, orders, shipments, invoices, payments, balance accounts,
projects, calendar events, and many other things. You can also
classify parties for marketing and sales, and do things like
marketing campaigns including reference codes via email, snail mail,
whatever.

If you're looking for simple desktop contact management something
like ACT or even salesforce.com would be better. If you're looking
for enterprise CRM (especially a business or industry specific
incarnation of such) then OFBiz a great basis for the effort.

-David

On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:07 AM, skip@theDevers wrote:

> I'd like to see the SWT code as it is. To heck with translating it
> to use
> web based widgets.
>
> I gotta set up a web site soon to hold code like this.
>
> Skip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:06 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in
> OFBiz
>
>
> basically yes.
> the tool i used added some classes to better manage things.
> http://www.elance.com/p/?
> q=eolproviderprofile&view_person=BJFreeman&catid=10
> 182#tab=1
> click on Java CRM
>
> skip@theDevers sent the following on 10/2/2007 8:55 PM:
>> BJ
>>
>> SWT as in Eclipse SWT?
>>
>> Skip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:26 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in
>> OFBiz
>>
>>
>> there at least two efforts going that i know of.
>> the data model pretty much has all that you need.
>> Si's implementation does not totally integrate with the current data
>> storage. it is built on ofbiz but is supported under opentaps.
>> Mine is something I am bringing over from Java SWT and SQL db.
>> Once I figure out how to show the UI I want in widgets I will release
>> it. Currently for my clients I use a java sWT that connects to ofbiz.
>> It is built entirely within the current ofbiz datamodel.
>> as soon as I get some irons of the fire will focus on it more
>>
>>
>>
>> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/2/2007 7:36 PM:
>>> Thanks for your input relating my previous questions, I am
>>> interested in
>>> implementing some sort of Helpdesk/CRM system and I am interested
>>> in what
>>> facilities OFBiz already has
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

BJ Freeman

Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz

For my part i was sharing what I am doing with ofbiz.

David E Jones sent the following on 10/3/2007 11:11 AM:

>
> I'm not sure where this thread is leading or how it's related to OFBiz...
>
> In any case, there is CRM functionality in OFBiz. The first step would
> be defining in a little more detail what you mean by "CRM" since that
> means very different things in different companies. OFBiz does offer a
> single view into customer interactions including web site visits,
> phone/email/in-person/etc communications, requests, quotes, orders,
> shipments, invoices, payments, balance accounts, projects, calendar
> events, and many other things. You can also classify parties for
> marketing and sales, and do things like marketing campaigns including
> reference codes via email, snail mail, whatever.
>
> If you're looking for simple desktop contact management something like
> ACT or even salesforce.com would be better. If you're looking for
> enterprise CRM (especially a business or industry specific incarnation
> of such) then OFBiz a great basis for the effort.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:07 AM, skip@theDevers wrote:
>
>> I'd like to see the SWT code as it is. To heck with translating it to
>> use
>> web based widgets.
>>
>> I gotta set up a web site soon to hold code like this.
>>
>> Skip
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:06 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz
>>
>>
>> basically yes.
>> the tool i used added some classes to better manage things.
>> http://www.elance.com/p/?q=eolproviderprofile&view_person=BJFreeman&catid=10
>>
>> 182#tab=1
>> click on Java CRM
>>
>> skip@theDevers sent the following on 10/2/2007 8:55 PM:
>>> BJ
>>>
>>> SWT as in Eclipse SWT?
>>>
>>> Skip
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:26 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: CRM - Customer Relationship Management facilities in OFBiz
>>>
>>>
>>> there at least two efforts going that i know of.
>>> the data model pretty much has all that you need.
>>> Si's implementation does not totally integrate with the current data
>>> storage. it is built on ofbiz but is supported under opentaps.
>>> Mine is something I am bringing over from Java SWT and SQL db.
>>> Once I figure out how to show the UI I want in widgets I will release
>>> it. Currently for my clients I use a java sWT that connects to ofbiz.
>>> It is built entirely within the current ofbiz datamodel.
>>> as soon as I get some irons of the fire will focus on it more
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Philip Laing sent the following on 10/2/2007 7:36 PM:
>>>> Thanks for your input relating my previous questions, I am
>>>> interested in
>>>> implementing some sort of Helpdesk/CRM system and I am interested in
>>>> what
>>>> facilities OFBiz already has
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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