Default package size assumed by fedex?

[princesewani]

Hi All,

I've a question, If the 'shipment.fedex.default.packagingType' is set to 'YOURPACKNG' ,
then what are the default dimensions assumed by Fedex for the package in which the

product will be packed?

I see a lot of difference in rates when I log-into Fedex a/c and give the zip codes, the

difference in rate still lies whether I provide the dimensions of the package or not.

Any pointers/clues will be of great help.

Regards
Prince

[Jacques Le Roux]

Beware, see Si Chen last message on user ML

<<On May 31, 2012, FedEx will be discontinuing its Ship Manager Direct API...>>

Jacques

From: "Prince Sewani" <[hidden email]>

> Hi All,
>
> I've a question, If the 'shipment.fedex.default.packagingType' is set to 'YOURPACKNG' ,
> then what are the default dimensions assumed by Fedex for the package in which the
>
> product will be packed?
>
> I see a lot of difference in rates when I log-into Fedex a/c and give the zip codes, the
>
> difference in rate still lies whether I provide the dimensions of the package or not.
>
> Any pointers/clues will be of great help.
>
> Regards
> Prince
>

[Scott.]

We currently use the new FedEx Web Services API in our OFBiz installation. We'll try to create a patch and contribute it fairly soon.

[Arun Patidar]

Fedex rates calculation requires weight and dimensions of packages only. Also Make sure that which type of rates you are getting, its a list rate or discounted rate of your account.


Regards
 ----
Arun Patidar
Hotwax Media | www.hotwaxmedia.com


On 20-Mar-2012, at 5:36 PM, Prince Sewani wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I've a question, If the 'shipment.fedex.default.packagingType' is set to 'YOURPACKNG' ,
> then what are the default dimensions assumed by Fedex for the package in which the
>
> product will be packed?
>
> I see a lot of difference in rates when I log-into Fedex a/c and give the zip codes, the
>
> difference in rate still lies whether I provide the dimensions of the package or not.
>
> Any pointers/clues will be of great help.
>
> Regards
> Prince

[princesewani]

Hey Thanks for the reply Arun,
Can you please help with a pivot to work-out which type of rate it is (list/discounted)? 
Also about dimensions, as the SOAP API is being used , I'd to use custom code to check

Dimensions of RequestedPackage from the RateRequest  and I got an NPE on 'getHeight()'
method call, that clearly defines that the Dimensions for the Package are null.

Also is there a way we define dimensions for a product and that are used by the service without any customization?
Coz, observing the code I don't see anything like that happening somewhere. In all the rates are being calculated

based on just weight and not dimensions.


Regards
Prince



________________________________
 From: Arun Patidar <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Cc: Arun Patidar <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Default package size assumed by fedex?
 

Fedex rates calculation requires weight and dimensions of packages only. Also Make sure that which type of rates you are getting, its a list rate or discounted rate of your account.


Regards
----
Arun Patidar
Hotwax Media | www.hotwaxmedia.com


On 20-Mar-2012, at 5:36 PM, Prince Sewani wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I've a question, If the 'shipment.fedex.default.packagingType' is set to 'YOURPACKNG' ,
> then what are the default dimensions assumed by Fedex for the package in which the
>
> product will be packed?
>
> I see a lot of difference in rates when I log-into Fedex a/c and give the zip codes, the
>
> difference in rate still lies whether I provide the dimensions of the package or not.
>
> Any pointers/clues will be of great help.
>
> Regards
> Prince

[princesewani]

Hey Scott,

Thanks for your reply, Does that means its the problem with API for

the differences in the rates that I'm seeing?

Regards
Prince



________________________________
 From: Scott. <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: Default package size assumed by fedex?
 
We currently use the new FedEx Web Services API in our OFBiz installation.
We'll try to create a patch and contribute it fairly soon.

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[princesewani]

Hey Jacques,

Thanks for your response, I read that already, Its kinda goin that way with Almost everything

these days , Firstly Amazon and now Fedex and may be other ones to come soon.

Actually rather than buying those, we(The community) should also think of upgrading the existing solutions.
Also the eBay ones are also not fully developed(Least to mention).


Regards
Prince



________________________________
 From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]; Prince Sewani <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Default package size assumed by fedex?
 
Beware, see Si Chen last message on user ML

<<On May 31, 2012, FedEx will be discontinuing its Ship Manager Direct API...>>

Jacques

From: "Prince Sewani" <[hidden email]>

> Hi All,
>
> I've a question, If the 'shipment.fedex.default.packagingType' is set to 'YOURPACKNG' ,
> then what are the default dimensions assumed by Fedex for the package in which the
> product will be packed?
>
> I see a lot of difference in rates when I log-into Fedex a/c and give the zip codes, the
> difference in rate still lies whether I provide the dimensions of the package or not.
>
> Any pointers/clues will be of great help.
>
> Regards
> Prince
>

[Arun Patidar]

List rate means direct rates based on weight and dimensions of items and Account rates which based on discount provided on account. You can verify it from value of  filed 'RateRequestTypes'  in your rate request.

You need some customization around it to get dimensions of package and products. You can assign defaultShipmentBoxTypeId to each product and get dimension of shipmentBox from there otherwise you can use product dimensions if exists. If you don't want to provide dimensions and shipment packages for each product then use default dimensions of default package along with total shippable weight.


Regards
 ----
Arun Patidar
Hotwax Media | www.hotwaxmedia.com


On 21-Mar-2012, at 3:22 PM, Prince Sewani wrote:

> Hey Thanks for the reply Arun,
> Can you please help with a pivot to work-out which type of rate it is (list/discounted)?
> Also about dimensions, as the SOAP API is being used , I'd to use custom code to check
> Dimensions of RequestedPackage from the RateRequest  and I got an NPE on 'getHeight()'
> method call, that clearly defines that the Dimensions for the Package are null.
>
> Also is there a way we define dimensions for a product and that are used by the service without any customization?
> Coz, observing the code I don't see anything like that happening somewhere. In all the rates are being calculated
> based on just weight and not dimensions.
>
> Regards
> Prince
>
> From: Arun Patidar <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Arun Patidar <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Default package size assumed by fedex?
>
>
> Fedex rates calculation requires weight and dimensions of packages only. Also Make sure that which type of rates you are getting, its a list rate or discounted rate of your account.
>
>
> Regards
> ----
> Arun Patidar
> Hotwax Media | www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
>
> On 20-Mar-2012, at 5:36 PM, Prince Sewani wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've a question, If the 'shipment.fedex.default.packagingType' is set to 'YOURPACKNG' ,
> > then what are the default dimensions assumed by Fedex for the package in which the
> >
> > product will be packed?
> >
> > I see a lot of difference in rates when I log-into Fedex a/c and give the zip codes, the
> >
> > difference in rate still lies whether I provide the dimensions of the package or not.
> >
> > Any pointers/clues will be of great help.
> >
> > Regards
> > Prince
>
>
>

[Scott.]

Prince, It’s my understanding that FedEx is/has retired the Ship Manager API and the Ship Manager Direct solutions that are integrated into OFBiz and will require anyone using them to migrate to FedEx Web Services. I think that was what Jacques was trying to say originally. If you are making changes to the Ship Manager API or Ship Manager Direct, you are making changes to something that will no longer be supported. If this is incorrect or I misunderstood, let me know.

[Jacques Le Roux]

Please no longer use dev ML for that and refer to this thread rather
http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/new-FedEx-Web-Services-Integration-Module-for-OFBiz-tt4487002.html

Jacques

[princesewani]

Hey Scott,

I truly agree to what you said and I understood pretty well what Jacques was

pointing to and I appreciate it, that's a wise advice.
They're yet to retire the API, not much time though, What I'm wondering about is the

cause that's creating the difference in rates when you're fetching through the SOAP API
and when you work-it-out using the FedEx A/c from FedEx website.

What exactly it is that could cause is the only thing I'm trying to figure out.

Regards
Prince




________________________________
 From: Scott. <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Default package size assumed by fedex?
 
Prince, It’s my understanding that FedEx is/has retired the Ship Manager API
and the Ship Manager Direct solutions that are integrated into OFBiz and
will require anyone using them to migrate to FedEx Web Services. I think
that was what Jacques was trying to say originally. If you are making
changes to the Ship Manager API or Ship Manager Direct, you are making
changes to something that will no longer be supported. If this is incorrect
or I misunderstood, let me know.


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[princesewani]

Hey Arun,

Thanks for your wonderful reply that captures all the customization stuff needed and
also matches my plan that I had in mah mind go ahead with.

It'll certainly need customizations to match-up with the ideal implementation,
But all that made me post was the cause due which despite providing the same input

in both the systems caused the rates to vary.

For e.g. :

2 packages, total weight 59lbs. , from 45005 to 55303 for FedEx Ground fetches $31 in OFBiz and shows

$41.95 in FedEx site, that's a huge difference.

Regards
Prince


________________________________
 From: Arun Patidar <[hidden email]>
To: Prince Sewani <[hidden email]>
Cc: Arun Patidar <[hidden email]>; "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Default package size assumed by fedex?
 

List rate means direct rates based on weight and dimensions of items and Account rates which based on discount provided on account. You can verify it from value of  filed 'RateRequestTypes'  in your rate request.

You need some customization around it to get dimensions of package and products. You can assign defaultShipmentBoxTypeId to each product and get dimension of shipmentBox from there otherwise you can use product dimensions if exists. If you don't want to provide dimensions and shipment packages for each product then use default dimensions of default package along with total shippable weight.


Regards
----
Arun Patidar
Hotwax Media | www.hotwaxmedia.com


On 21-Mar-2012, at 3:22 PM, Prince Sewani wrote:

> Hey Thanks for the reply Arun,
> Can you please help with a pivot to work-out which type of rate it is (list/discounted)?
> Also about dimensions, as the SOAP API is being used , I'd to use custom code to check
> Dimensions of RequestedPackage from the RateRequest  and I got an NPE on 'getHeight()'
> method call, that clearly defines that the Dimensions for the Package are null.
>
> Also is there a way we define dimensions for a product and that are used by the service without any customization?
> Coz, observing the code I don't see anything like that happening somewhere. In all the rates are being calculated
> based on just weight and not dimensions.
>
> Regards
> Prince
>
> From: Arun Patidar <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Arun Patidar <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Default package size assumed by fedex?
>
>
> Fedex rates calculation requires weight and dimensions of packages only. Also Make sure that which type of rates you are getting, its a list rate or discounted rate of your account.
>
>
> Regards
> ----
> Arun Patidar
> Hotwax Media | www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
>
> On 20-Mar-2012, at 5:36 PM, Prince Sewani wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've a question, If the 'shipment.fedex.default.packagingType' is set to 'YOURPACKNG' ,
> > then what are the default dimensions assumed by Fedex for the package in which the
> >
> > product will be packed?
> >
> > I see a lot of difference in rates when I log-into Fedex a/c and give the zip codes, the
> >
> > difference in rate still lies whether I provide the dimensions of the package or not.
> >
> > Any pointers/clues will be of great help.
> >
> > Regards
> > Prince
>
>
>

[princesewani]

Hi Jacques,

Surely, I got the pivots I was looking for.
Thanks a lot for your guidance. :)


Regards
Prince



________________________________
 From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Default package size assumed by fedex?
 
Please no longer use dev ML for that and refer to this thread rather
http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/new-FedEx-Web-Services-Integration-Module-for-OFBiz-tt4487002.html

Jacques


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