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For me wiki seems the easier at begining, Confluence of course http://docs.ofbiz.org/pages/listpages-dirview.action?key=OFBIZ Thanks for your commitment, Tibor Jacques ----- Original Message ----- From: tibor katelbach To: [hidden email] ; Jacques Le Roux Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Volunteer: OFBiz End User Documentation I'm one step from action just wanted validation from the community , and more important for the moderators to tell me where they beleive the best location for this would be ? in a doc folder of each application, and patched in the SVN ? in the wiki ? and in which one ? On 7/13/06, Jacques Le Roux < [hidden email]> wrote: Tibor, IMHO every effort is welcome. Why not trying this way ? It may improve with action... Jacques From: "tibor katelbach" < [hidden email] > > thx Si for your experience, > Commenting code is always a plus but eventhough it is heavy , I stick to > this idea as a usefull way to give and instant image of the algo behind a > process without having to go into every piece that constructs it. > This type of documentation should be maintained only when major changes are > made because it's not a detailed description. > Which isn't that often is it ? > in any case as I go forward I continue to gather them, and could commit them > into a docs folder of each process containing application if you guys find > an interest in them. > > Regards > Tibor > > > On 7/12/06, Si Chen < [hidden email] > wrote: > > > > Tibor, > > > > I tried to do exactly what you're suggesting about a year ago when we > > developed the Financials module. I tried to write a document which > > described all the business logic, data model, and processes. If you > > look in the financials module there is a docs/ directory with a > > TechnicalDocs file in DocBook SGML format. > > > > What I found was that it was extremely cumbersome and difficult to do > > things this way, because I was writing a document and then writing > > code. If later the code couldn't follow exactly the original design, > > I'd have to fix the code, then fix the document again. It is not > > impossible but would require a tremendous amount of discipline and > > effort to do this. > > > > A better solution, in my opinion, is to comment the code better-- > > write more comments about the services, the Java methods, etc. that > > talk about what is going on, and comment the SECAs about what process > > each SECA is re-creating. This would create documentation which is > > easier for developers to maintain and which another developer who is > > familiar with the basic structure of OFBiz would be able to work with. > > > > This is what I'm trying to do know--as I look through code, I'm > > putting more comments and committing them. I would encourage you and > > everybody else to do the same. If you read through a service or some > > code that could use better comments, please send in a patch. > > > > Si > > > > On Jul 11, 2006, at 8:46 AM, tibor katelbach wrote: > > > > > I agree, that is the pb with such docs, they are heavy to write, > > > because the > > > task is huge. But once it is done the main part is done, offcourse > > > maintenance is heavy but it could also be a new way of spotting > > > precisly > > > what is new between versions and more readiable than a SVN upgrade. > > > > > > we all took the effort of understanding processes and this would be > > > a way to > > > share it. logs are shared but not exhaustive even the Verbose. > > > > > > I did it for quite a few processes and when I communicate these > > > docs to > > > other people needing a the same process, all they do is read it out. > > > if what they need is in there , then they dig in. > > > I often lost time by reading through loads of code and my answer > > > was just > > > waiting at the end, > > > this way you go directly to the interesting section. > > > > > > offcourse this gets really interesting only if we all participate. > > > > > > just trying to help newcomers > > > > > > > > > On 7/11/06, Chris Howe < [hidden email]> wrote: > > >> > > >> I think that the easiest way to accomplish this is > > >> through the logs. Documenting these processes for > > >> reference would be too burdonsome and maintenance > > >> would be quite tedious. > > >> > > >> --- tibor katelbach < [hidden email]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi everyone > > >> > I've been tagging along an idea of documenting > > >> > algorythms of ofbiz > > >> > processes. > > >> > > > >> > Since I started working with ofbiz, as always I > > >> > found myself having to dig > > >> > into existing code > > >> > I found that the clearest way to understand how > > >> > modules work is to rebuild > > >> > the algorithm behind a process . > > >> > A process could be a complete run through from url > > >> > to controller to to > > >> > Service , run through the Service to result , to > > >> > Screen ...etc. > > >> > > > >> > by writting down the main elements of a process this > > >> > draws quite a clear map > > >> > of the algorithm behind the process, and especially > > >> > is easily transmitable and readable by others. This > > >> > also keeps from having > > >> > to run through all code , all processes which would > > >> > be the next step after > > >> > reading the algo. > > >> > > > >> > WDYT ? > > >> > > > >> > I think it would be enourmously enrichining for > > >> > people like myself wanting > > >> > to understand quickly what does what, and what is > > >> > done behind the scenes. > > >> > > > >> > Sometimes these algos quite large for processes like > > >> > the chekout process > > >> > here's a sample I gathered up for the tellafriend > > >> > process: > > >> > I list Service , Maps, redirections... a std format > > >> > needs to be set up > > >> > > > >> > Form : tellafriend > > >> > input : message, sendTo, sendFrom > > >> > > > >> > >>>> controller event : > > >> > org.ofbiz.product.product.ProductEvents" > > >> > invoke="tellAFriend" > > >> > > > >> > >>> dans le service tellafriend > > >> > > > >> > [GenericEntity:ProductStoreEmailSetting] > > >> > > > >> > > >> [bccAddress,null()][bodyScreenLocation,null()][ccAddress,null()] > > >> [contentType,null()][createdStamp,2006-04-21 > > >> > 15:06: 47.428(java.sql.Timestamp)] > > >> > [createdTxStamp,2006-04-21 > > >> > 15:06:46.848(java.sql.Timestamp > > >> > )][emailType,PRDS_TELL_FRIEND(java.lang.String)] > > >> > > > >> [fromAddress,[hidden email](java.lang.String > > >> )][lastUpdatedStamp,2006-04-21 > > >> > 15:06:47.428(java.sql.Timestamp)] > > >> > [lastUpdatedTxStamp,2006-04-21 > > >> > 15:06: 46.848(java.sql.Timestamp > > >> > )][productStoreId,910(java.lang.String)] > > >> > [subject,${sendFrom} has sent you a > > >> > link!( java.lang.String)] > > >> > > > >> [templatePath,/applications/petitbateau/templates/email/ > > >> tellafriend.ftl( > > >> > java.lang.String)][xslfoAttachScreenLocation,null()] > > >> > > > >> > { > > >> > templateData= > > >> > [ > > >> > sendFrom= [hidden email] , > > >> > message=qgfgsdf gsdf gsdf gsdfg sdf, > > >> > sendTo= [hidden email], > > >> > > > >> pageUrl= http://localhost/petitbateau/control/product?product_id=94451 > > >> > ], > > >> > > > >> > sendTo= [hidden email], > > >> > > > >> > > >> templateName=X:/X_Dev/sequoiaerp/applications/petitbateau/ > > >> templates/email/tellafriend.ftl, > > >> > > > >> > sendCc=null, > > >> > sendBcc=null, > > >> > subject= [hidden email] has sent you a link!, > > >> > sendFrom=[hidden email], > > >> > contentType=null} > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>>> dispatcher.runAsync("sendGenericNotificationEmail", > > >> > context); > > >> > >>>>org.ofbiz.content.email.NotificationServices" > > >> > invoke="sendNotification(DispatchContext ctx, Map > > >> > context) > > >> > >>>>method prepareNotification(ctx, context); > > >> > //builds the body of the > > >> > mail by rendering the corresponding ftl > > >> > >>>>if body != null > > >> > >>>>dispatcher.runSync("sendMail", emailContext); > > >> > org.ofbiz.content.email.EmailServices " > > >> > invoke="sendMail" > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Regards > > >> > Tibor > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > |
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