[OFBiz] Users - multiple tax authorities in same Geo
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[OFBiz] Users - multiple tax authorities in same Geo
 
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Re: [OFBiz] Users - multiple tax authorities in same Geo
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Re: [OFBiz] Users - multiple tax authorities in same Geo
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In reply to this post by cjhowe
In a way it does make sense to model a taxation entity as a combination of the geographic boundary, and the tax authority. BTW, I was using the term "jurisdiction" before, but I like tax authority a lot better. On the SimpleSalesTaxLookup perhaps it is best to have both a taxAuthorityGeoId and a taxAuthorityPartyId. For the posting of sales tax for a sales order, or from a sales invoice rather, I'm starting to like Si's idea of adding an entity that would have a sort of TaxAuthorityGlAccount entity with a taxAuthorityGeoId, taxAuthorityPartyId, organizationPartyId, and glAccountId. Wow, a bit complicated.... Of course, with any luck, we'll get some larger companies to drool over it a bit... -David On Jul 13, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Si Chen wrote: > Yes, I understood. I was just wondering if you might have a case > where you have multiple authorities for the same geo. Like for > example, for the same state, a sales tax authority like the > Franchise Tax Board and a use tax or school tax authority that > decided it wants to collect its own taxes. Then you'd have to map > the same Geo (not sub-Geos) to multiple authorities. > > Do you want us to take a look at re-factoring some of the > SimpleSalesTaxLookup stuff while we're at it? It should be possible > to change it the way you suggested it. The downside is then > everybody will have to modify their installation if they upgrade. > > Si > > David E. Jones wrote: > > >> >> Si, >> >> When I said that a given Geo would only have only one tax >> authority I did NOT mean a Geo and all of it's regions, or sub- >> Geos. In other words, we really should have separate tax setup for >> each state/ province, and where application county, city, country, >> etc... >> >> Note that the current simple sales tax calc stuff in OFBiz is >> POORLY DESIGNED. It has a countryGeoId and a stateProvinceGeoId. >> Those 2 fields should be ripped out and a "jurisdictionGeoId" >> should put in place instead. The current design is both confusing >> and inflexible when you consider real-world requirements for >> taxation. >> >> This is one of those pieces of code that, well, to put it >> politely, inspires negative feelings in me when I think about it, >> and I wish it was never written this way because it will have to >> be corrected as soon as someone wants to do anything realistic >> with sales tax through this. Which will be an unpleasant surprise, >> and I'll have people angry with me as I try to explain to them >> that if they want it fixed somehow resources will have to be >> dedicated to that. >> >> Anyway, I hope that clears up the general concept. Each >> OrderAdjustment that represents sales tax has a primaryGeoId on >> it, and that is the one that the tax will (should) be for. So, a >> given OrderItem may have various different sales tax adjustments >> for different jurisdictions. >> >> -David >> >> >> On Jul 13, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Matt Penner wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Si, >>> >>> I just went through some of this in my own research. CA actually >>> seems to >>> be an exception. Some states not only have multiple tax >>> authorities such as >>> Federal, State, and Local, but there are also special >>> propositions passed in >>> some counties requiring that local agencies such as >>> transportation get an >>> additional percentage. >>> >>> For example, in Riverside Co, CA, the tax is really 7.5%, but >>> there is a >>> transportation authority that receives a .25% tax of all sales >>> tax, bringing >>> the total to the 7.75% that Riverside locals are familiar with. >>> Since we >>> only pay one agency, the Franchise Tax Board as you mentioned, it >>> doesn't >>> affect us much, but this could easily affect others. >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:users- >>> [hidden email]] >>> On Behalf Of Si Chen >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:11 PM >>> To: OFBiz Users / Usage >>> Subject: [OFBiz] Users - multiple tax authorities in same Geo >>> >>> Hi. Working on some sales tax liability/expense stuff. Just >>> wanted to >>> check: >>> >>> Does anybody have business requirements where sales or use or VAT >>> taxes >>> are payable to multiple authorities in the same Geo? (ie, Do you >>> have >>> special products that have separate sales and use tax >>> authorities, or do >>> you have to pay different levels of local governments?) >>> >>> If so, please say so NOW. Otherwise, we'll set it so that each >>> Geo can >>> only have one tax authority. >>> >>> (Note: in California, state, county, and city governments all have >>> different sales taxes, but the taxes are paid to one state tax >>> authority, the Franchise Tax Board. So, in this case, there is >>> only one >>> payable authority per Geo of CA. I'm asking about cases where you >>> actually have to send separate checks to different agencies.) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users |
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