Smaller Version of OFBIz Powered By Logo

[Sharan-F]

Hi All

Does anyone know how to make some smaller versions (120x90px) of our Powered By OFBiz logo?

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2

The default one is pretty big. Maybe we need to have a copy of all the OFBiz logos in this size......

Thanks
Sharan

[Pierre Smits]

Preferable we should have various sized web banners as per
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_banner, e.g.


   - Leaderboard (728 x 90 px)
   - Full banner (468 x 60 px)
   - Half banner (234 x 60 px)
   - Button 1 (120 x 90 px)
   - Button 2 (120 x 60 px)

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Sharan-F <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Does anyone know how to make some smaller versions (120x90px) of our
> Powered
> By OFBiz logo?
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
> >
>
> The default one is pretty big. Maybe we need to have a copy of all the
> OFBiz
> logos in this size......
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

[Ashish Redkar]

Sharon,

Please find below logo 120 * 90px size. 

Cheers,

Ashish Redkar

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Sharan-F <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi All

Does anyone know how to make some smaller versions (120x90px) of our Powered
By OFBiz logo?

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2>

The default one is pretty big. Maybe we need to have a copy of all the OFBiz
logos in this size......

Thanks
Sharan



--
View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967.html
Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

--

[Ashish Redkar]

PFA image

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ashish Redkar <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sharon,

Please find below logo 120 * 90px size. 

Cheers,

Ashish Redkar

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Sharan-F <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi All

Does anyone know how to make some smaller versions (120x90px) of our Powered
By OFBiz logo?

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2>

The default one is pretty big. Maybe we need to have a copy of all the OFBiz
logos in this size......

Thanks
Sharan



--
View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967.html
Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

--

Ashish Redkar

Director and Co-Founder

vnnogile Solutions 

--

[Sharan-F]

Wow - that was fast! Thanks Ashish.

[JulienNicolas]

Hello,

I don't know if anybody could be interested by a svg "powered by" logo
but I've done it :)

It's not the official one, because it's very difficult to find svg
version. So, I've made the OFBiz logo by myself and the "powered by"
font is Lato (Open Font Licence).

Have a nice week-end,

Julien.


Le 17/07/2015 09:40, Sharan-F a écrit :

> Hi All
>
> Does anyone know how to make some smaller versions (120x90px) of our Powered
> By OFBiz logo?
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2>
>
> The default one is pretty big. Maybe we need to have a copy of all the OFBiz
> logos in this size......
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Pierre Smits]

As with the original, the black seems more overpowering than the approx 30%
of the area it encompasses. The OFBiz logo seems to be even less than 30%

Resulting in a perception that the focus is more on 'POWERED BY APACHE'
than on 'ofbiz'.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Julien NICOLAS <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I don't know if anybody could be interested by a svg "powered by" logo but
> I've done it :)
>
> It's not the official one, because it's very difficult to find svg
> version. So, I've made the OFBiz logo by myself and the "powered by" font
> is Lato (Open Font Licence).
>
> Have a nice week-end,
>
> Julien.
>
>
> Le 17/07/2015 09:40, Sharan-F a écrit :
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Does anyone know how to make some smaller versions (120x90px) of our
>> Powered
>> By OFBiz logo?
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
>> <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
>> >
>>
>> The default one is pretty big. Maybe we need to have a copy of all the
>> OFBiz
>> logos in this size......
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967.html
>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
>

[JulienNicolas]

Hi Pierre,

I try to keep proportions but you're true, the focus is more on 'POWERED
BY'.
I think it's because of the font... I try to grow up the OFBiz Logo.
What do you think ?
It can be used or it's better to use the official jpg file ?

Julien.

PS : I admit that I prefer vectorial file ^^


Le 18/07/2015 19:21, Pierre Smits a écrit :

> As with the original, the black seems more overpowering than the approx 30%
> of the area it encompasses. The OFBiz logo seems to be even less than 30%
>
> Resulting in a perception that the focus is more on 'POWERED BY APACHE'
> than on 'ofbiz'.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Julien NICOLAS <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I don't know if anybody could be interested by a svg "powered by" logo but
>> I've done it :)
>>
>> It's not the official one, because it's very difficult to find svg
>> version. So, I've made the OFBiz logo by myself and the "powered by" font
>> is Lato (Open Font Licence).
>>
>> Have a nice week-end,
>>
>> Julien.
>>
>>
>> Le 17/07/2015 09:40, Sharan-F a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to make some smaller versions (120x90px) of our
>>> Powered
>>> By OFBiz logo?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
>>> <
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
>>> The default one is pretty big. Maybe we need to have a copy of all the
>>> OFBiz
>>> logos in this size......
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967.html
>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>

[JulienNicolas]

Oups... Attached file ^^


Le 18/07/2015 21:54, Julien NICOLAS a écrit :

> Hi Pierre,
>
> I try to keep proportions but you're true, the focus is more on
> 'POWERED BY'.
> I think it's because of the font... I try to grow up the OFBiz Logo.
> What do you think ?
> It can be used or it's better to use the official jpg file ?
>
> Julien.
>
> PS : I admit that I prefer vectorial file ^^
>
>
> Le 18/07/2015 19:21, Pierre Smits a écrit :
>> As with the original, the black seems more overpowering than the
>> approx 30%
>> of the area it encompasses. The OFBiz logo seems to be even less than
>> 30%
>>
>> Resulting in a perception that the focus is more on 'POWERED BY APACHE'
>> than on 'ofbiz'.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Julien NICOLAS
>> <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I don't know if anybody could be interested by a svg "powered by"
>>> logo but
>>> I've done it :)
>>>
>>> It's not the official one, because it's very difficult to find svg
>>> version. So, I've made the OFBiz logo by myself and the "powered by"
>>> font
>>> is Lato (Open Font Licence).
>>>
>>> Have a nice week-end,
>>>
>>> Julien.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 17/07/2015 09:40, Sharan-F a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know how to make some smaller versions (120x90px) of our
>>>> Powered
>>>> By OFBiz logo?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2 
>>>>
>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2 
>>>>
>>>> The default one is pretty big. Maybe we need to have a copy of all the
>>>> OFBiz
>>>> logos in this size......
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Sharan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967.html 
>>>>
>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>
>

[Sharan-F]

Hi Julien

The quality of your file looks really good. I'm not sure that I can see the difference between your file and the our official logos. (Maybe it's only a small difference...).

At the moment all our official ofbiz logo files are here

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=7766031&metadataLink=true

and are mainly in png and jpg format. What do you think of them? Do we need to think about updating them to a better resolution and quality?  

I think we definitely need to improve the quality of the ofbiz logos that we use for our main website and also in the OFBiz demo itself so if it could be better using a different file type (e.g vector file) then we can always try it and see.

Thanks
Sharan

 

[JulienNicolas]

Hi Sharan,

The big difference between png/jpg/gif and vectorial file is the
vectorial is not a binary file. Vector file is not a picture, It's a xml
file that describe how to draw the picture. Then you can change the
scale, the picture will always be good unlike the binary file.

Basically Svg file is lighter than binary and with a good resolution.

The other point I like, it's easier to use svg in another file unlike a
binary that you must have in the same working resolution.

I hope you catch the advantages :)

Julien.

Le 19/07/2015 16:20, Sharan-F a écrit :

> Hi Julien
>
> The quality of your file looks really good. I'm not sure that I can see the
> difference between your file and the our official logos. (Maybe it's only a
> small difference...).
>
> At the moment all our official ofbiz logo files are here
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=7766031&metadataLink=true
>
> and are mainly in png and jpg format. What do you think of them? Do we need
> to think about updating them to a better resolution and quality?
>
> I think we definitely need to improve the quality of the ofbiz logos that we
> use for our main website and also in the OFBiz demo itself so if it could be
> better using a different file type (e.g vector file) then we can always try
> it and see.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967p4670981.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Sharan-F]

Hi Julien

I think we need to use the vector files then - if it gives us better quality and control over the image. Do you have time to create a vector file for the OFBiz logo?  

To me I think the one you are using is fine (I can see that the OFBiz logo has changed a few times over the years and I don't think that a minor update would be a problem).

Also do you know anything about printing? For example if we wanted to create some leaflets etc - could the vector file still be used? (I'm thinking that we could have a pdf leaflet version online e.g an updated version of this

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/brochure_trifold_ofbiz_1_master.pdf?api=v2

and a printed version that we could use for conferences...)

Thanks
Sharan

[Pierre Smits]

Hi Julien,

That looks indeed better, but I still believe the the black rim (Powered by
...) is overpowering the product (OFBiz). In my opinion the focus should be
on the product and the tag line should strengthen it.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Julien NICOLAS <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Oups... Attached file ^^
>
>
> Le 18/07/2015 21:54, Julien NICOLAS a écrit :
>
>> Hi Pierre,
>>
>> I try to keep proportions but you're true, the focus is more on 'POWERED
>> BY'.
>> I think it's because of the font... I try to grow up the OFBiz Logo. What
>> do you think ?
>> It can be used or it's better to use the official jpg file ?
>>
>> Julien.
>>
>> PS : I admit that I prefer vectorial file ^^
>>
>>
>> Le 18/07/2015 19:21, Pierre Smits a écrit :
>>
>>> As with the original, the black seems more overpowering than the approx
>>> 30%
>>> of the area it encompasses. The OFBiz logo seems to be even less than 30%
>>>
>>> Resulting in a perception that the focus is more on 'POWERED BY APACHE'
>>> than on 'ofbiz'.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Julien NICOLAS <
>>> [hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if anybody could be interested by a svg "powered by" logo
>>>> but
>>>> I've done it :)
>>>>
>>>> It's not the official one, because it's very difficult to find svg
>>>> version. So, I've made the OFBiz logo by myself and the "powered by"
>>>> font
>>>> is Lato (Open Font Licence).
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice week-end,
>>>>
>>>> Julien.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 17/07/2015 09:40, Sharan-F a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>  Hi All
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know how to make some smaller versions (120x90px) of our
>>>>> Powered
>>>>> By OFBiz logo?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
>>>>> <
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/pb-ofbiz.jpg?api=v2
>>>>> The default one is pretty big. Maybe we need to have a copy of all the
>>>>> OFBiz
>>>>> logos in this size......
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sharan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967.html
>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

[Sharan-F]

Hi Pierre / Julien

The black rim is the official ASF template for a Powered By logo - so I'm not sure how much we can change it.

https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/

Pierre - were you thinking about having the word 'ofbiz' even bigger to emphasize it? Or was it something else?

Thanks
Sharan

[Pierre Smits]

Sharan,

Ask yourself this: Should it work for the OFBiz project or for the ASF?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Sharan-F <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Pierre / Julien
>
> The black rim is the official ASF template for a Powered By logo - so I'm
> not sure how much we can change it.
>
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/
>
> Pierre - were you thinking about having the word 'ofbiz' even bigger to
> emphasize it? Or was it something else?
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967p4670987.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

[Sharan-F]

Hi Pierre

To me it's the same, I don't see a difference. We are an ASF project and draw benefits from that. We use the tools, guidance and principles of the ASF to grow and improve our project.

BTW I think we have gone a bit off topic here so if you'd like to start a discussion on this then please feel free to start a new thread.

Thanks
Sharan

[JulienNicolas]

Hi Sharan,

It's possible to have a vectorial leaflet, we made the OFBiz France
leaflet <http://www.nomaka.fr/ofbiz/leaflet2015v4-vectorized-text.svg>
in vectorial (without picture, only drawing).
We use Inkscape but it's better to use Scribus (I prefer Inkscape).

Except the pictures, this one is quite simple to reproduced :)
For an original leaflet, it's quite more difficult and really difficult
to find consensus with the community :D
Tastes and colours are always different for every people ;)

So tell me if you need me to copy it in vectorial format I can manage to
do it this month :)

Julien.

PS : I think, there is 2 pages, can you send me the other one ?
PPS : I don't know if the copyright allow us to copy this leaflet or
not. Could you manage to ask Hotwax for that before starting to work on
it ? ^^

Le 20/07/2015 10:08, Sharan-F a écrit :

> Hi Julien
>
> I think we need to use the vector files then - if it gives us better quality
> and control over the image. Do you have time to create a vector file for the
> OFBiz logo?
>
> To me I think the one you are using is fine (I can see that the OFBiz logo
> has changed a few times over the years and I don't think that a minor update
> would be a problem).
>
> Also do you know anything about printing? For example if we wanted to create
> some leaflets etc - could the vector file still be used? (I'm thinking that
> we could have a pdf leaflet version online e.g an updated version of this
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/7766031/brochure_trifold_ofbiz_1_master.pdf?api=v2
>
> and a printed version that we could use for conferences...)
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967p4670985.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Sharan-F]

Hi Julien

Thanks for the link to the OFBiz France leaflet - I think it is very good and I think we need to create something similar as general marketing leaflet for OFBiz.

I think the Hotwax leaftlet is quite old now so I think it would be good to put something together that is completely new that can be used by all the community for marketing purposes. I will have a try at drafting some text for leaflet. Would it be OK if we use some of the ideas and graphics (translated into English) from the OFBiz France leaflet?   :-)

Anyway for now I'd just like a copy of the OFBiz logo in svg format.

Thanks
Sharan

[JulienNicolas]

Hi Sharan,

There is no problem, the document is under CC-BY-SA v4 licence, so you
can do what you want :)

Just ask me about material you need to translate, I'll try to provide
you ASAP :)
If you prefer to do it yourself, I can share you the source file (with
text in text and not in path). It can be modify by the Inkscape free
software <https://inkscape.org/en/>.


Julien.


Le 21/07/2015 10:23, Sharan-F a écrit :

> Hi Julien
>
> Thanks for the link to the OFBiz France leaflet - I think it is very good
> and I think we need to create something similar as general marketing leaflet
> for OFBiz.
>
> I think the Hotwax leaftlet is quite old now so I think it would be good to
> put something together that is completely new that can be used by all the
> community for marketing purposes. I will have a try at drafting some text
> for leaflet. Would it be OK if we use some of the ideas and graphics
> (translated into English) from the OFBiz France leaflet?   :-)
>
> Anyway for now I'd just like a copy of the OFBiz logo in svg format.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Smaller-Version-of-OFBIz-Powered-By-Logo-tp4670967p4670993.html
> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Paul Foxworthy]

Pierre Smits wrote

Ask yourself this: Should it work for the OFBiz project or for the ASF?

I agree 100%, Pierre.

The name of our project is "Apache OFBiz". Our project is supported by ASF and it's right to acknowledge that. But our project is the result of our own work and builds on a large number of open source components, many of which are not ASF projects.

It is plain misleading to say OFBiz is "powered by Apache", and it diminishes the scope and intent of what we're doing. The implication is we're some sort of subsidiary. The logo doesn't even have the correct name for our project.

The visual style is all wrong. Our project should not be enclosed and engulfed by Apache. It should be *supported* by Apache. Our project should have clear top billing. I have no problem with Apache getting a mention in the logo if the implication is more "supported by".

It's disappointing the ASF are encouraging us to use this logo. As Pierre says, it's flawed. I think we should ignore it.

Cheers

Paul Foxworthy