UI improvement for tables in OFBiz

[Mayank Lambhate]

Hello All,

The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining the
alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points relevant
to alignment of data in tables -

   1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
   2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
   3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.

Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
tables.

Please let me know what you think about this.


Thanks and Regards

*Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>

[Pranay Pandey-3]

That sounds great Mayank. I like the idea.

Best regards,
Pranay Pandey
www.hotwaxsystems.com
www.hotwax.co

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Mayank Lambhate <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining the
> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points relevant
> to alignment of data in tables -
>
>    1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
>    2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
>    3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
>
> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
> tables.
>
> Please let me know what you think about this.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
>
> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>

[Swapnil Mane]

Interesting, this seems good idea Mayank.
+1


- Best Regards,
Swapnil M Mane

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Mayank Lambhate <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining the
> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points relevant
> to alignment of data in tables -
>
>    1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
>    2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
>    3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
>
> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
> tables.
>
> Please let me know what you think about this.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
>
> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>

[Devanshu Vyas-2]

I feel the same while exploring Ofbiz screens.
Good Initiative, +1  from my side.

Thanks & Regards,
Devanshu Vyas.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Swapnil Mane <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Interesting, this seems good idea Mayank.
> +1
>
>
> - Best Regards,
> Swapnil M Mane
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Mayank Lambhate <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining
> the
> > alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points
> relevant
> > to alignment of data in tables -
> >
> >    1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
> >    2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
> >    3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
> >
> > Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
> > can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
> > certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
> > tables.
> >
> > Please let me know what you think about this.
> >
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> >
> > *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> > HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
> >
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

+1

Jacques


Le 26/08/2017 à 14:27, Mayank Lambhate a écrit :

> Hello All,
>
> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining the
> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points relevant
> to alignment of data in tables -
>
>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
>
> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
> tables.
>
> Please let me know what you think about this.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
>
> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Thanks for the proposition Mayank!

Jacques


Le 26/08/2017 à 21:16, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> +1
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 26/08/2017 à 14:27, Mayank Lambhate a écrit :
>> Hello All,
>>
>> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining the
>> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points relevant
>> to alignment of data in tables -
>>
>>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
>>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
>>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
>>
>> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
>> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
>> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
>> tables.
>>
>> Please let me know what you think about this.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>>
>> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
>> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>>
>
>

[taher]

If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established and
not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]

[1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining the
> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points relevant
> to alignment of data in tables -
>
>    1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
>    2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
>    3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
>
> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
> tables.
>
> Please let me know what you think about this.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
>
> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Great idea, thanks Taher!

Jacques


Le 26/08/2017 à 21:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established and
> not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
> utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
>
> [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining the
>> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points relevant
>> to alignment of data in tables -
>>
>>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
>>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
>>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
>>
>> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
>> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
>> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
>> tables.
>>
>> Please let me know what you think about this.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>>
>> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
>> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>

[Nitish Mishra]

Hello Taher,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Currently, we don't have bootstrap integration in OFBiz. So, if we are
planning to give bootstrap support, then there would be no need to create
our own CSS dictionary.

Please let us know if you have any plans for the same.

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Great idea, thanks Taher!
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 26/08/2017 à 21:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>
>> If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established and
>> not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
>> utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
>>
>> [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining
>>> the
>>> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points
>>> relevant
>>> to alignment of data in tables -
>>>
>>>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
>>>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
>>>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
>>>
>>> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
>>> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
>>> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
>>> tables.
>>>
>>> Please let me know what you think about this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>
>>> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
>>> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>>>
>>
>

--


*Thanks and Regards*

*Nitish Mishra* | Enterprise Software Engineer
HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>

[Rajesh Mallah]

Hi Nitish ,

I feel bootstrap  is a mobile first framework and is
primarily meant for creating ui that looks great in
large and small screens.

Given the kind of application Ofbiz is , it is difficult
to imagine much core usage in mobile space as most of
the screens requires an elaborate input from users and
also display quite many details.

Definitely bootstrap provides elegant UI/UX but most
of the (bootstrap based) designs that i have come across
are not dense in terms of information content .  The forms
created by default bootstrap styles waste too much space,
IMHO.

I am not sure how much value it is going to add in comparison
to the effort made in customizing the bootstrap styles to
accommodate the screens of Ofbiz which generally have quite
many fields in  forms or tables.

I feel if with relatively less effort the the proposed UI improvement
can done its worth !.

regds
mallah.















On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Nitish Mishra <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello Taher,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.
>
> Currently, we don't have bootstrap integration in OFBiz. So, if we are
> planning to give bootstrap support, then there would be no need to create
> our own CSS dictionary.
>
> Please let us know if you have any plans for the same.
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Great idea, thanks Taher!
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 26/08/2017 à 21:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> >
> >> If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established and
> >> not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
> >> utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
> >>
> >> [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
> >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining
> >>> the
> >>> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points
> >>> relevant
> >>> to alignment of data in tables -
> >>>
> >>>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
> >>>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
> >>>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
> >>>
> >>> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing.
> We
> >>> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
> >>> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
> >>> tables.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know what you think about this.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks and Regards
> >>>
> >>> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> >>> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
>
>
> *Thanks and Regards*
>
> *Nitish Mishra* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>

[Rishi Solanki]

Nitish,
I think what Taher is suggesting, to use the naming conventions used in
bootstrap instead of try to form dictionary of our own. I also agree with
him, to use a standard practice for naming the classes.

+1 Mayank for the idea.

Rishi Solanki
Sr Manager, Enterprise Software Development
HotWax Systems Pvt. Ltd.
Direct: [phone]
http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
www.hotwax.co

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Nitish Mishra <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello Taher,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.
>
> Currently, we don't have bootstrap integration in OFBiz. So, if we are
> planning to give bootstrap support, then there would be no need to create
> our own CSS dictionary.
>
> Please let us know if you have any plans for the same.
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Great idea, thanks Taher!
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 26/08/2017 à 21:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> >
> >> If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established and
> >> not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
> >> utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
> >>
> >> [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
> >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining
> >>> the
> >>> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points
> >>> relevant
> >>> to alignment of data in tables -
> >>>
> >>>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
> >>>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
> >>>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
> >>>
> >>> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing.
> We
> >>> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
> >>> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
> >>> tables.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know what you think about this.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks and Regards
> >>>
> >>> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> >>> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
>
>
> *Thanks and Regards*
>
> *Nitish Mishra* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>

[Mayank Lambhate]

Thank you all for your suggestions,

If everyone agrees, we can move forward by creating generic names of the
CSS classes as provided by bootstrap.


Thanks and Regards

--

*Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>


On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Rishi Solanki <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Nitish,
> I think what Taher is suggesting, to use the naming conventions used in
> bootstrap instead of try to form dictionary of our own. I also agree with
> him, to use a standard practice for naming the classes.
>
> +1 Mayank for the idea.
>
> Rishi Solanki
> Sr Manager, Enterprise Software Development
> HotWax Systems Pvt. Ltd.
> Direct: [phone]
> http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
> www.hotwax.co
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Nitish Mishra <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hello Taher,
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestion.
> >
> > Currently, we don't have bootstrap integration in OFBiz. So, if we are
> > planning to give bootstrap support, then there would be no need to create
> > our own CSS dictionary.
> >
> > Please let us know if you have any plans for the same.
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > Great idea, thanks Taher!
> > >
> > > Jacques
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 26/08/2017 à 21:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > >
> > >> If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established and
> > >> not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
> > >> utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
> > >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello All,
> > >>>
> > >>> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for
> defining
> > >>> the
> > >>> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points
> > >>> relevant
> > >>> to alignment of data in tables -
> > >>>
> > >>>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
> > >>>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
> > >>>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit
> confusing.
> > We
> > >>> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can
> define
> > >>> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data
> inside
> > >>> tables.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please let me know what you think about this.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks and Regards
> > >>>
> > >>> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> > >>> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > *Thanks and Regards*
> >
> > *Nitish Mishra* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> > HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
> >
>

[Jagpreet Kaur]

Hi Mayank,

It's a good initiative. As some of the numeric data price, quantity is
generally right-aligned. +1 on creating generic names of classes and moving
ahead.

I think the "align" attribute is used at some of the tables. As per HTML5,
'align' attribute is not supported, so code cleaning will also be required
there.


Regards,
Jagpreet Kaur Khanuja


On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Mayank Lambhate <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you all for your suggestions,
>
> If everyone agrees, we can move forward by creating generic names of the
> CSS classes as provided by bootstrap.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
>
> --
>
> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Rishi Solanki <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Nitish,
> > I think what Taher is suggesting, to use the naming conventions used in
> > bootstrap instead of try to form dictionary of our own. I also agree with
> > him, to use a standard practice for naming the classes.
> >
> > +1 Mayank for the idea.
> >
> > Rishi Solanki
> > Sr Manager, Enterprise Software Development
> > HotWax Systems Pvt. Ltd.
> > Direct: [phone]
> > http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
> > www.hotwax.co
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Nitish Mishra <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Taher,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your suggestion.
> > >
> > > Currently, we don't have bootstrap integration in OFBiz. So, if we are
> > > planning to give bootstrap support, then there would be no need to
> create
> > > our own CSS dictionary.
> > >
> > > Please let us know if you have any plans for the same.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Great idea, thanks Taher!
> > > >
> > > > Jacques
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le 26/08/2017 à 21:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > > >
> > > >> If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established
> and
> > > >> not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
> > > >> utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
> > > >>
> > > >> [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
> > > >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hello All,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for
> > defining
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points
> > > >>> relevant
> > > >>> to alignment of data in tables -
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
> > > >>>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
> > > >>>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit
> > confusing.
> > > We
> > > >>> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can
> > define
> > > >>> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data
> > inside
> > > >>> tables.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please let me know what you think about this.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks and Regards
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> > > >>> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > *Thanks and Regards*
> > >
> > > *Nitish Mishra* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> > > HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
> > >
> >
>

[Mayank Lambhate]

Thanks for your insights Jagpreet.

I will surely work on it.


Thanks and Regards,

--

*Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>


On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Jagpreet Kaur <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Mayank,
>
> It's a good initiative. As some of the numeric data price, quantity is
> generally right-aligned. +1 on creating generic names of classes and moving
> ahead.
>
> I think the "align" attribute is used at some of the tables. As per HTML5,
> 'align' attribute is not supported, so code cleaning will also be required
> there.
>
>
> Regards,
> Jagpreet Kaur Khanuja
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Mayank Lambhate <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Thank you all for your suggestions,
> >
> > If everyone agrees, we can move forward by creating generic names of the
> > CSS classes as provided by bootstrap.
> >
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> >
> > --
> >
> > *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> > HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Rishi Solanki <[hidden email]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Nitish,
> > > I think what Taher is suggesting, to use the naming conventions used in
> > > bootstrap instead of try to form dictionary of our own. I also agree
> with
> > > him, to use a standard practice for naming the classes.
> > >
> > > +1 Mayank for the idea.
> > >
> > > Rishi Solanki
> > > Sr Manager, Enterprise Software Development
> > > HotWax Systems Pvt. Ltd.
> > > Direct: [phone]
> > > http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
> > > www.hotwax.co
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Nitish Mishra <
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Taher,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your suggestion.
> > > >
> > > > Currently, we don't have bootstrap integration in OFBiz. So, if we
> are
> > > > planning to give bootstrap support, then there would be no need to
> > create
> > > > our own CSS dictionary.
> > > >
> > > > Please let us know if you have any plans for the same.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Great idea, thanks Taher!
> > > > >
> > > > > Jacques
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 26/08/2017 à 21:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > >> If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established
> > and
> > > > >> not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
> > > > >> utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
> > > > >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hello All,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for
> > > defining
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the
> points
> > > > >>> relevant
> > > > >>> to alignment of data in tables -
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
> > > > >>>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
> > > > >>>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit
> > > confusing.
> > > > We
> > > > >>> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can
> > > define
> > > > >>> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data
> > > inside
> > > > >>> tables.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Please let me know what you think about this.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks and Regards
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> > > > >>> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Thanks and Regards*
> > > >
> > > > *Nitish Mishra* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> > > > HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 28/08/2017 à 08:24, Rajesh Mallah a écrit :

> Hi Nitish ,
>
> I feel bootstrap  is a mobile first framework and is
> primarily meant for creating ui that looks great in
> large and small screens.
>
> Given the kind of application Ofbiz is , it is difficult
> to imagine much core usage in mobile space as most of
> the screens requires an elaborate input from users and
> also display quite many details.
>
> Definitely bootstrap provides elegant UI/UX but most
> of the (bootstrap based) designs that i have come across
> are not dense in terms of information content .  The forms
> created by default bootstrap styles waste too much space,
> IMHO.
>
> I am not sure how much value it is going to add in comparison
> to the effort made in customizing the bootstrap styles to
> accommodate the screens of Ofbiz which generally have quite
> many fields in  forms or tables.
>
> I feel if with relatively less effort the the proposed UI improvement
> can done its worth !.
>
> regds
> mallah.
>

Hi Rajesh,

This is interesting and I agree.

Despite recognising Bootstrap value I have always thought that there is some cargo cult around it.
Notably, as you outline, for applications like ERP. Even if nowadays you often have access to them also from smartphones.
Of course a CSS framework is more interesting if you look for ecommerce solutions, where mobile is ubiquitous

I have been working with the ilscipio team who is mostly providing ecommerce solutions.
They initialled picked Bootstrap but are finally using Foundation.
I never used a CSS framework, but I read that Foundation is more flexible regarding tables, that OFBiz uses  a lot!

Anyway rather than blindly using a CSS framework, we could get inspired from them.
To indeed improve what we have already and where a lot of thoughts has already been put.

Jacques

[Rajesh Mallah]

Hi Jacques/List ,

Further,  for mini/micro applications that absorb relatively less update
information from teams on move  (say e.g. opportunity status update from
front-line sales team, status update from delivery courier fleet etc) it
makes
sense to use bootstrap/equivalent .

But i feel such application development can mostly by done
by teams implementing ofbiz in organisations rather than being
a part of ofbiz itself as Ofbiz already provides excellent framework
for interfacing.

regds
mallah.




On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Le 28/08/2017 à 08:24, Rajesh Mallah a écrit :
>
>> Hi Nitish ,
>>
>> I feel bootstrap  is a mobile first framework and is
>> primarily meant for creating ui that looks great in
>> large and small screens.
>>
>> Given the kind of application Ofbiz is , it is difficult
>> to imagine much core usage in mobile space as most of
>> the screens requires an elaborate input from users and
>> also display quite many details.
>>
>> Definitely bootstrap provides elegant UI/UX but most
>> of the (bootstrap based) designs that i have come across
>> are not dense in terms of information content .  The forms
>> created by default bootstrap styles waste too much space,
>> IMHO.
>>
>> I am not sure how much value it is going to add in comparison
>> to the effort made in customizing the bootstrap styles to
>> accommodate the screens of Ofbiz which generally have quite
>> many fields in  forms or tables.
>>
>> I feel if with relatively less effort the the proposed UI improvement
>> can done its worth !.
>>
>> regds
>> mallah.
>>
>> Hi Rajesh,
>
> This is interesting and I agree.
>
> Despite recognising Bootstrap value I have always thought that there is
> some cargo cult around it.
> Notably, as you outline, for applications like ERP. Even if nowadays you
> often have access to them also from smartphones.
> Of course a CSS framework is more interesting if you look for ecommerce
> solutions, where mobile is ubiquitous
>
> I have been working with the ilscipio team who is mostly providing
> ecommerce solutions.
> They initialled picked Bootstrap but are finally using Foundation.
> I never used a CSS framework, but I read that Foundation is more flexible
> regarding tables, that OFBiz uses  a lot!
>
> Anyway rather than blindly using a CSS framework, we could get inspired
> from them.
> To indeed improve what we have already and where a lot of thoughts has
> already been put.
>
> Jacques
>
>

[Michael Brohl-3]

A bit late to the party but I totally agree that we should make use of
an existing standard instead of reinventing our own wheel.

+1 for bootstrap

Regards,

Michael


Am 26.08.17 um 21:19 schrieb Taher Alkhateeb:

> If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established and
> not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
> utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
>
> [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining the
>> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points relevant
>> to alignment of data in tables -
>>
>>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
>>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
>>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
>>
>> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
>> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
>> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
>> tables.
>>
>> Please let me know what you think about this.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>>
>> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
>> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hi Michael, All,

Why not Foundation?

It's true that Bootstrap, I guess due to its origin,  is more widely used, but Foundation has some arguments.

https://www.google.fr/search?q=Bootstrap+vs+Foundation&ie=UTF-8

Nnotably when it comes to tables that OFBiz uses a lot (please see Rajesh's and my message before in the thread).

Beware, I don't mean to use Foundation as is, simply to refer to its CSS definitions as Taher suggested for Bootstrap.
At least to compare both for OFBiz before picking one

Jacques


Le 07/09/2017 à 10:05, Michael Brohl a écrit :

> A bit late to the party but I totally agree that we should make use of an existing standard instead of reinventing our own wheel.
>
> +1 for bootstrap
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
> Am 26.08.17 um 21:19 schrieb Taher Alkhateeb:
>> If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established and
>> not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
>> utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
>>
>> [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining the
>>> alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points relevant
>>> to alignment of data in tables -
>>>
>>>     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
>>>     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
>>>     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
>>>
>>> Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
>>> can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
>>> certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
>>> tables.
>>>
>>> Please let me know what you think about this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>
>>> *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
>>> HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>
>

[marcopaul]

In the other thread, folks were talking about Vaadin which would supersede this discussion, I believe.

For this application I think Vaadin (in particular the Grid component) is an ideal fit, because it is a complete UI framework, vs Bootstrap which is just a nice client-side CSS/JS theme.

Replacing the various obsolete implementations of tabular data display with the Vaadin Grid component alone would make ofbiz an order of magnitude more usable for most of its apps.

https://vaadin.com/docs/-/part/framework/components/components-grid.html

-P

On Sep 7, 2017, 3:29 AM -0500, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>, wrote:

> Hi Michael, All,
>
> Why not Foundation?
>
> It's true that Bootstrap, I guess due to its origin,  is more widely used, but Foundation has some arguments.
>
> https://www.google.fr/search?q=Bootstrap+vs+Foundation&ie=UTF-8
>
> Nnotably when it comes to tables that OFBiz uses a lot (please see Rajesh's and my message before in the thread).
>
> Beware, I don't mean to use Foundation as is, simply to refer to its CSS definitions as Taher suggested for Bootstrap.
> At least to compare both for OFBiz before picking one
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 07/09/2017 à 10:05, Michael Brohl a écrit :
> > A bit late to the party but I totally agree that we should make use of an existing standard instead of reinventing our own wheel.
> >
> > +1 for bootstrap
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Am 26.08.17 um 21:19 schrieb Taher Alkhateeb:
> > > If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established and
> > > not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
> > > utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
> > >
> > > [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
> > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > > The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for defining the
> > > > alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points relevant
> > > > to alignment of data in tables -
> > > >
> > > >     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
> > > >     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
> > > >     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
> > > >
> > > > Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit confusing. We
> > > > can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can define
> > > > certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data inside
> > > > tables.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know what you think about this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and Regards
> > > >
> > > > *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> > > > HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/
> >
> >
>

[Mayank Lambhate]

Hello Jacques, All,

I think this would be a good idea to check which of the CSS styling in
either Bootstrap or Foundation works best for OFBiz tables.

Also coming to the original discussion of using specific classes for
alignment of table data, Can we pick the naming convention from Bootstrap
Alignment classes?

https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#type-alignment
<https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#type-alignment>
Thanks,

*Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>


On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Paul Mandeltort <[hidden email]> wrote:

> In the other thread, folks were talking about Vaadin which would supersede
> this discussion, I believe.
>
> For this application I think Vaadin (in particular the Grid component) is
> an ideal fit, because it is a complete UI framework, vs Bootstrap which is
> just a nice client-side CSS/JS theme.
>
> Replacing the various obsolete implementations of tabular data display
> with the Vaadin Grid component alone would make ofbiz an order of magnitude
> more usable for most of its apps.
>
> https://vaadin.com/docs/-/part/framework/components/components-grid.html
>
> -P
>
> On Sep 7, 2017, 3:29 AM -0500, Jacques Le Roux <
> [hidden email]>, wrote:
> > Hi Michael, All,
> >
> > Why not Foundation?
> >
> > It's true that Bootstrap, I guess due to its origin,  is more widely
> used, but Foundation has some arguments.
> >
> > https://www.google.fr/search?q=Bootstrap+vs+Foundation&ie=UTF-8
> >
> > Nnotably when it comes to tables that OFBiz uses a lot (please see
> Rajesh's and my message before in the thread).
> >
> > Beware, I don't mean to use Foundation as is, simply to refer to its CSS
> definitions as Taher suggested for Bootstrap.
> > At least to compare both for OFBiz before picking one
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> >
> > Le 07/09/2017 à 10:05, Michael Brohl a écrit :
> > > A bit late to the party but I totally agree that we should make use of
> an existing standard instead of reinventing our own wheel.
> > >
> > > +1 for bootstrap
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 26.08.17 um 21:19 schrieb Taher Alkhateeb:
> > > > If I may suggest, I think we should go with something established and
> > > > not come up with our own CSS dictionary. So for example, we can
> > > > utilize pre-existing definitions from bootstrap [1]
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://getbootstrap.com/docs/3.3/css/#tables
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mayank Lambhate
> > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > Hello All,
> > > > >
> > > > > The tables used in OFBiz currently don`t have any standard for
> defining the
> > > > > alignment of data inside the tables. IMO, following are the points
> relevant
> > > > > to alignment of data in tables -
> > > > >
> > > > >     1. Numeric data (Right Aligned)
> > > > >     2. Non-Numeric (Left Aligned)
> > > > >     3. Table headers to be aligned with the data.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, the names of classes used for aligning data are a bit
> confusing. We
> > > > > can come up with more generic names of the classes, also we can
> define
> > > > > certain classes that could be specific to the alignment of data
> inside
> > > > > tables.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please let me know what you think about this.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks and Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > *Mayank Lambhate* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> > > > > HotWax Systems <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
>