[VOTE] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hi,

R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of support. We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
released package

Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.

Vote:
[ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
[ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18

We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this vote will be only open for a week.

Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is another process documented at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz

Thank you for your attention

Jacques

[Pierre Smits-3]

+1

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:27 AM Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of support.
> We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
> released package
>
> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer
> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>
> Vote:
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>
> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this
> vote will be only open for a week.
>
> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is another
> process documented at
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
>
> Thank you for your attention
>
> Jacques
>
>

[Michael Brohl-3]

-1

Michael Brohl

ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de


Am 24.01.20 um 11:27 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:

> Hi,
>
> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
> support. We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about
> the next to be released package
>
> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would
> prefer to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>
> Vote:
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>
> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so
> this vote will be only open for a week.
>
> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
> another process documented at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz 
>
>
> Thank you for your attention
>
> Jacques
>

[Nicolas Malin-2]

-1

Nicolas

On 24/01/2020 11:27, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Hi,
>
> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
> support. We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about
> the next to be released package
>
> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would
> prefer to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>
> Vote:
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>
> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so
> this vote will be only open for a week.
>
> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
> another process documented at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
>
>
> Thank you for your attention
>
> Jacques
>
>

[Gil Portenseigne]

+1

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:27:15AM +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Hi,
>
> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of support. We
> can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
> released package
>
> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>
> Vote:
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>
> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this vote will be only open for a week.
>
> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is another process documented at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
>
> Thank you for your attention
>
> Jacques
>

[taher]

-1

I'm not sure what is the necessity for skipping a branch.

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 4:19 PM Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:27:15AM +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
> support. We
> > can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
> > released package
> >
> > Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer
> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
> >
> > Vote:
> > [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> > [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
> >
> > We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this
> vote will be only open for a week.
> >
> > Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
> another process documented at
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
> >
> > Thank you for your attention
> >
> > Jacques
> >
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hi Taher,

Are you backporting  much?  Since we switched to Git? Mmm OK, none. this may explain that ;)

As I said to Nicolas:

    <<I must say I'm mostly against [releasing R17] because of the surplus of effort necessary to backport to both R17 and R18.
    [...] Sincerely it's more work with Git than it was with Svn where we had scripts for that. I'd maybe change my mind if OFBIZ-11297 would be
    done... >>

Let's see what the future will tell us...

Jacques

Le 24/01/2020 à 15:11, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

> -1
>
> I'm not sure what is the necessity for skipping a branch.
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 4:19 PM Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:27:15AM +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
>> support. We
>>> can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
>>> released package
>>>
>>> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer
>> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>>> Vote:
>>> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
>>> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>>>
>>> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this
>> vote will be only open for a week.
>>> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
>> another process documented at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
>>> Thank you for your attention
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Forgot: sorry for the resentment, it's not specially against you, most of us are not backporting since we turned to Git.

I don't think it's a coincidence, but maybe there are other reasons?

Le 24/01/2020 à 17:35, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

> Hi Taher,
>
> Are you backporting  much?  Since we switched to Git? Mmm OK, none. this may explain that ;)
>
> As I said to Nicolas:
>
>    <<I must say I'm mostly against [releasing R17] because of the surplus of effort necessary to backport to both R17 and R18.
>    [...] Sincerely it's more work with Git than it was with Svn where we had scripts for that. I'd maybe change my mind if OFBIZ-11297 would be
>    done... >>
>
> Let's see what the future will tell us...
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 24/01/2020 à 15:11, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>> -1
>>
>> I'm not sure what is the necessity for skipping a branch.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 4:19 PM Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:27:15AM +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
>>> support. We
>>>> can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
>>>> released package
>>>>
>>>> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer
>>> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>>>> Vote:
>>>> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
>>>> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>>>>
>>>> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this
>>> vote will be only open for a week.
>>>> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
>>> another process documented at
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
>>>> Thank you for your attention
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>

[Michael Brohl-3]

Could you please stop discussing inside the vote thread itself?

Firstly, we discussed beforehand and the vote should be held on base of
that discussion. If more infomation is added we might even have to
cancel the vote again because participants who already voted had another
base of information.

Secondly, it is rather difficult to follow to see the real vote results.

Thanks

Michael Brohl

ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de


Am 24.01.20 um 17:42 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:

> Forgot: sorry for the resentment, it's not specially against you, most
> of us are not backporting since we turned to Git.
>
> I don't think it's a coincidence, but maybe there are other reasons?
>
> Le 24/01/2020 à 17:35, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>> Hi Taher,
>>
>> Are you backporting  much?  Since we switched to Git? Mmm OK, none.
>> this may explain that ;)
>>
>> As I said to Nicolas:
>>
>>    <<I must say I'm mostly against [releasing R17] because of the
>> surplus of effort necessary to backport to both R17 and R18.
>>    [...] Sincerely it's more work with Git than it was with Svn where
>> we had scripts for that. I'd maybe change my mind if OFBIZ-11297
>> would be
>>    done... >>
>>
>> Let's see what the future will tell us...
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> Le 24/01/2020 à 15:11, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>> -1
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what is the necessity for skipping a branch.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 4:19 PM Gil Portenseigne
>>> <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:27:15AM +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
>>>> support. We
>>>>> can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next
>>>>> to be
>>>>> released package
>>>>>
>>>>> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would
>>>>> prefer
>>>> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>>>>> Vote:
>>>>> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
>>>>> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>>>>>
>>>>> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus,
>>>>> so this
>>>> vote will be only open for a week.
>>>>> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
>>>> another process documented at
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz 
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your attention
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>

[Jacques Le Roux]

Sure, just that Taher started with "I'm not sure what is the necessity for skipping a branch." and I wanted to explain more my perspective.

OK the buck stop here :)

Jacques

Le 24/01/2020 à 17:57, Michael Brohl a écrit :

> Could you please stop discussing inside the vote thread itself?
>
> Firstly, we discussed beforehand and the vote should be held on base of that discussion. If more infomation is added we might even have to cancel
> the vote again because participants who already voted had another base of information.
>
> Secondly, it is rather difficult to follow to see the real vote results.
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael Brohl
>
> ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de
>
>
> Am 24.01.20 um 17:42 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>> Forgot: sorry for the resentment, it's not specially against you, most of us are not backporting since we turned to Git.
>>
>> I don't think it's a coincidence, but maybe there are other reasons?
>>
>> Le 24/01/2020 à 17:35, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>> Hi Taher,
>>>
>>> Are you backporting  much?  Since we switched to Git? Mmm OK, none. this may explain that ;)
>>>
>>> As I said to Nicolas:
>>>
>>>    <<I must say I'm mostly against [releasing R17] because of the surplus of effort necessary to backport to both R17 and R18.
>>>    [...] Sincerely it's more work with Git than it was with Svn where we had scripts for that. I'd maybe change my mind if OFBIZ-11297 would be
>>>    done... >>
>>>
>>> Let's see what the future will tell us...
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> Le 24/01/2020 à 15:11, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>>>> -1
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what is the necessity for skipping a branch.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 4:19 PM Gil Portenseigne <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:27:15AM +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
>>>>> support. We
>>>>>> can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
>>>>>> released package
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer
>>>>> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>>>>>> Vote:
>>>>>> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
>>>>>> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this
>>>>> vote will be only open for a week.
>>>>>> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
>>>>> another process documented at
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
>>>>>> Thank you for your attention
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>

[Jacopo Cappellato-3]

0

Jacopo


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:27 AM Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of support.
> We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
> released package
>
> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer
> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>
> Vote:
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>
> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this
> vote will be only open for a week.
>
> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is another
> process documented at
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
>
> Thank you for your attention
>
> Jacques
>
>

[Paul Foxworthy-2]

+1

Thanks

Paul Foxworthy

On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 21:27, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of support.
> We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
> released package
>
> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer
> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>
> Vote:
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>
> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this
> vote will be only open for a week.
>
> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is another
> process documented at
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
>
> Thank you for your attention
>
> Jacques
>
>

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[Mathieu Lirzin]

Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> writes:

> Vote:
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18

+1

--
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[Martin Becker]

-1

Martin Becker




On 2020/01/24 10:27:15, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Hi,>
>
> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of support. We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be >
> released package>
>
> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.>
>
> Vote:>
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.>
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18>
>
> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this vote will be only open for a week.>
>
> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is another process documented at>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz>
>
> Thank you for your attention>
>
> Jacques>
>

[Deepak Dixit-5]

-1

Kind Regards,
Deepak Dixit


On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 10:24 PM Martin Becker <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> -1
>
> Martin Becker
>
>
>
>
> On 2020/01/24 10:27:15, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > Hi,>
> >
> > R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
> support. We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the
> next to be >
> > released package>
> >
> > Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer
> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.>
> >
> > Vote:>
> > [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.>
> > [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18>
> >
> > We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this
> vote will be only open for a week.>
> >
> > Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
> another process documented at>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz>
>
> >
> > Thank you for your attention>
> >
> > Jacques>
> >
>
>
>

[Suraj Khurana-2]

-1


Best Regards,

Suraj Khurana
SENIOR TECHNICAL CONSULTANT



On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 1:34 PM Deepak Dixit <[hidden email]> wrote:

> -1
>
> Kind Regards,
> Deepak Dixit
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 10:24 PM Martin Becker <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > -1
> >
> > Martin Becker
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2020/01/24 10:27:15, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > > Hi,>
> > >
> > > R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
> > support. We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the
> > next to be >
> > > released package>
> > >
> > > Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would
> prefer
> > to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.>
> > >
> > > Vote:>
> > > [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.>
> > > [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18>
> > >
> > > We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so
> this
> > vote will be only open for a week.>
> > >
> > > Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
> > another process documented at>
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thank you for your attention>
> > >
> > > Jacques>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

[James Yong-2]

+1

Regards,
James

On 2020/01/24 10:27:15, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of support. We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
> released package
>
> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>
> Vote:
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>
> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this vote will be only open for a week.
>
> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is another process documented at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
>
> Thank you for your attention
>
> Jacques
>
>

[adityasharma]

-1

Thanks and Regards,
Aditya Sharma

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 4:02 PM James Yong <[hidden email]> wrote:

> +1
>
> Regards,
> James
>
> On 2020/01/24 10:27:15, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
> support. We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the
> next to be
> > released package
> >
> > Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer
> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
> >
> > Vote:
> > [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> > [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
> >
> > We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this
> vote will be only open for a week.
> >
> > Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
> another process documented at
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
> >
> > Thank you for your attention
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> >
>

[Swapnil M Mane]

-1

Best regards,
Swapnil M Mane,
ofbiz.apache.org



On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 3:57 PM Jacques Le Roux <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of support.
> We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about the next to be
> released package
>
> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would prefer
> to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>
> Vote:
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>
> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so this
> vote will be only open for a week.
>
> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is another
> process documented at
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz
>
> Thank you for your attention
>
> Jacques
>
>

[Benjamin Jugl]

-1

Am 24.01.20 um 11:27 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:

> Hi,
>
> R16 is now an old distribution and has almost reached its end of
> support. We can soon expect a last release but we need to think about
> the next to be released package
>
> Some would prefer to release R17 before releasing R18, some would
> prefer to bypass R17 release and directly publish R18 instead.
>
> Vote:
> [ +1] Do not release R17 and directly publish R18 instead.
> [ -1]  Release R17 before releasing R18
>
> We had already 3 months to discuss without reaching a consensus, so
> this vote will be only open for a week.
>
> Note that it's not a formal vote to release R17 or R18, as that is
> another process documented at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Release+Management+Guide+for+OFBiz 
>
>
> Thank you for your attention
>
> Jacques