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Providing a downloadable snapshot is a good Idea. Its light weight
process compared to doing a release. We can get started anytime. Regards Anil Patel On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > Hi Jacques, > > actually, I was not talking about a new release... I was just > suggesting to provide some sort of downloadable snapshot of the trunk. > > Jacopo > > > > On Jun 1, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >> Hi Jacopo, >> >> Thanks for comment, so I would like to try by following http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan >> for trunk and release. >> I would then put attachments to this page when all would be tested >> and ok (or maybe create a new specific child page for that). My >> goal is to have something as easy as possible to reach, even for >> non-technical persons. >> >> I'm afraid that at the moment there are some issues in trunk when >> running tests (run-tests). I did not test (run-tests) release for >> a while. I suppose that I will need some efforts from the >> community. I will let you know about that as soon as I will know. >> >> BTW, do wee need tp keep this page http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Incubating+4.0.0+Test+Snapshot+Release >> for >> historical reasons ? >> >> I remember suddenly that David has suggested recently that we work >> on the framework in order to have separated from applications. >> Should we wait to be in such a state before engaging a release >> effort ? >> >> Any other suggestions/recommandations anyone ? >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> >> PS : Maybe I'm a bit optimistic about all that, so it will depend >> of my free time... >> >> From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <[hidden email]> >>> We already talked about this subject in the past... >>> in my opinion a very simple (to manage for the community) and >>> effective way of helping new users, with minimal technical >>> knowledge, that just want to quickly taste how OFBiz is setup in >>> their pc, is to provide a weekly (or montly) zipped file of an >>> "svn export" (or a bigger "svn checkout") of the trunk. >>> >>> Jacopo >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> We begin to have more and more unpleasant comments like this one >>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide?focusedCommentId=4377#comment-4377 >>>> Should we not take them into account one day or another even if >>>> our build processes is so simple ? >>>> Tough, maybe we could simply explain clearly in this page (and >>>> perhaps some other concerned) why we prefer to do it that way ? >>>> >>>> Jacques >>> >> > |
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Yeah - we can easily make this part of the nightly build and post a
link to the most recent one if this is something everyone is into. Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Jun 1, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Anil Patel wrote: > Providing a downloadable snapshot is a good Idea. Its light weight > process compared to doing a release. We can get started anytime. > > Regards > Anil Patel > > On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > >> Hi Jacques, >> >> actually, I was not talking about a new release... I was just >> suggesting to provide some sort of downloadable snapshot of the >> trunk. >> >> Jacopo >> >> >> >> On Jun 1, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >>> Hi Jacopo, >>> >>> Thanks for comment, so I would like to try by following http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan >>> for trunk and release. >>> I would then put attachments to this page when all would be tested >>> and ok (or maybe create a new specific child page for that). My >>> goal is to have something as easy as possible to reach, even for >>> non-technical persons. >>> >>> I'm afraid that at the moment there are some issues in trunk when >>> running tests (run-tests). I did not test (run-tests) release for >>> a while. I suppose that I will need some efforts from the >>> community. I will let you know about that as soon as I will know. >>> >>> BTW, do wee need tp keep this page http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Incubating+4.0.0+Test+Snapshot+Release >>> for >>> historical reasons ? >>> >>> I remember suddenly that David has suggested recently that we work >>> on the framework in order to have separated from applications. >>> Should we wait to be in such a state before engaging a release >>> effort ? >>> >>> Any other suggestions/recommandations anyone ? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> PS : Maybe I'm a bit optimistic about all that, so it will depend >>> of my free time... >>> >>> From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <[hidden email]> >>>> We already talked about this subject in the past... >>>> in my opinion a very simple (to manage for the community) and >>>> effective way of helping new users, with minimal technical >>>> knowledge, that just want to quickly taste how OFBiz is setup in >>>> their pc, is to provide a weekly (or montly) zipped file of an >>>> "svn export" (or a bigger "svn checkout") of the trunk. >>>> >>>> Jacopo >>>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> We begin to have more and more unpleasant comments like this one >>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide?focusedCommentId=4377#comment-4377 >>>>> Should we not take them into account one day or another even if >>>>> our build processes is so simple ? >>>>> Tough, maybe we could simply explain clearly in this page (and >>>>> perhaps some other concerned) why we prefer to do it that way ? >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>> >>> >> > |
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Do you guys want to have this automated and part of the nightly build
so that it's easy and done as part of the demo deployment every night? We can just post it at http://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ . . . / nightlybuild.zip - and then keep a certain amount around for a certain amount of time. If anyone's interested - I'd be happy to set it up. Jacques, let me know your thoughts on this. Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Jun 7, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Thanks for the reminder and comment Bruno , > > You know : old guy, old habits :o) > > Jacques > > From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >> Jacques, >> Ant is no longer needed (it is included in OFBiz). I think the >> readme file >> should only mention that the JAVA SDK should be installed. >> >> +1 for having in the zip files the Derby database already loaded >> with demo >> data. >> >> Regards, >> -Bruno >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008/6/7 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >> >>> Yes sure, as I said in my 1st point :o). BTW the new README file >>> will now >>> be : >>> >>> <<To run OFBiz this simple sequence: >>> >>> 1. Depending of your platform, launch OFBiz using startofbiz.bat or >>> startofbiz.sh >>> 2. Give OFBiz a minute or two to start up... >>> 3. Browse to >>> ERP : https://localhost:8443/catalog/control/main (login/pwd are >>> ofbiz/admin) >>> Ecommerce application : http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/control/main(when >>> checking out you may use as login/pwd DemoCustomer/ofbiz) >>> >>> Enjoy >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> If they wants to fo further they will have to use svn... >>> Any other opinions (for instance, should we go the way Adian >>> suggested and >>> I agreed with ?) >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]> >>> >>>> Are you doing an svn export - to remove all the .svn folders? >>>> >>>> --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email] >>>> <lt%[hidden email]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]<lt%[hidden email] >>>> >> >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release >>>> To: [hidden email] >>>> Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM >>>> >>>> Adrian, >>>> >>>> Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work on >>>> our side >>>> though. Moreover, as we don't know the platform which will >>>> be used, we have to add the plugin.jar in base/lib in each. >>>> >>>> FYI, the respective size of zipped trunk and release are 50MB and >>>> 40MB >>>> before >>>> creating demo data in Derby and 66MB, 53MB after >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]<lt%[hidden email] >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Why not have the zip file contain a ready-to-run version of >>>> OFBiz? In >>>> >>>> other words, run the install, then zip it. >>>> > >>>> > -Adrian >>>> > >>>> > --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux >>>> &lt;[hidden email]<amp%3Blt%[hidden email] >>>> >&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi all, >>>> > >>>> > I began to work on this, I request your opinions, advices. >>>> > >>>> > I have : >>>> > >>>> > 1. Made an svn export of trunk (rev. 664255) and release4.0 >>>> (rev. >>>> 664343) >>>> and >>>> > zipped them in 2 zip archives, respectively >>>> > ofbizTrunk.zip and ofbizRelease4.0.zip >>>> > 2. Created a README file to be put in each zip (I think we >>>> should add >>>> > respective rev. numbers in them, WDYT ?), content: >>>> > >>>> > &lt;&lt;In order to run OFBiz you you need to have ant >>>> installed >>>> and ANT_HOME >>>> > in your path. Then follow this simple sequence: >>>> > >>>> > 1. In a terminal or command line window, go to the directory >>>> where >>>> you >>>> unzipped >>>> > OFBiz >>>> > 2. Type and run : ant run-install >>>> > 3. Wait till the database is filled with demo data... >>>> > 4. Depending of your platform, launch OFBiz using >>>> startofbiz.bat or >>>> > startofbiz.sh >>>> > 5. Give OFBiz a minute or two to start up... >>>> > 6. Browse to >>>> > ERP : https://localhost:8443/catalog/control/main (login/ >>>> pwd are >>>> > ofbiz/admin) >>>> > Ecommerce application : >>>> http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/control/main >>>> (when >>>> > checking out you may use as login/pwd >>>> > DemoCustomer/ofbiz) >>>> > >>>> > Enjoy >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > |
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I will get this going shortly.
Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Jun 7, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Thank you for the proposition. Yes this would be great. As we will > not check tests it can be automated without worries. Keeping some > revisions aroud could be helpful in certain cases, good idea. > I forgot something to put at least in the trunk README file: a > warning explaining that it's not thoroughly tested... > > So to resume the process : > 1. Svn export > 2. Add plugin.jar in framewrok/base/lib > 3. Ant run-install > 4. Update README file with the revision number (optional ?) > 5. Zip (or tar.gz, etc. but I guess zip is easier for Windows users > I guess and is no pb for Linux guys) > 6. Copy on a directory with a revolving number of instances > > The README file could be > <<To run OFBiz please use this simple sequence: > > 1. Depending of your platform, launch OFBiz using startofbiz.bat or > startofbiz.sh > 2. Give OFBiz a minute or two to start up... > 3. Browse to > ERP : https://localhost:8443/catalog/control/main (login/pwd are > ofbiz/admin) > Ecommerce application : http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/control/ > main (when checking out you may use as login/pwd DemoCustomer/ofbiz) > > Enjoy > > Warning : this OFBiz release has not been thoroughly tested and you > may encouter bugs, please refer to user ML in such case : [hidden email] > , thanks. >>> > > Cheers > > Jacques > > From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> >> Do you guys want to have this automated and part of the nightly >> build so that it's easy and done as part of the demo deployment >> every night? We can just post it at http:// >> demo.hotwaxmedia.com/ . . . / nightlybuild.zip - and then keep a >> certain amount around for a certain amount of time. If anyone's >> interested - I'd be happy to set it up. >> >> Jacques, let me know your thoughts on this. >> >> Cheers, >> Tim >> -- >> Tim Ruppert >> HotWax Media >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >> >> o:801.649.6594 >> f:801.649.6595 >> >> >> On Jun 7, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the reminder and comment Bruno , >>> >>> You know : old guy, old habits :o) >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Bruno Busco" <[hidden email]> >>>> Jacques, >>>> Ant is no longer needed (it is included in OFBiz). I think the >>>> readme file >>>> should only mention that the JAVA SDK should be installed. >>>> >>>> +1 for having in the zip files the Derby database already loaded >>>> with demo >>>> data. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> -Bruno >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2008/6/7 Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]>: >>>> >>>>> Yes sure, as I said in my 1st point :o). BTW the new README >>>>> file will now >>>>> be : >>>>> >>>>> <<To run OFBiz this simple sequence: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Depending of your platform, launch OFBiz using startofbiz.bat >>>>> or >>>>> startofbiz.sh >>>>> 2. Give OFBiz a minute or two to start up... >>>>> 3. Browse to >>>>> ERP : https://localhost:8443/catalog/control/main (login/pwd are >>>>> ofbiz/admin) >>>>> Ecommerce application : http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/control/main(when >>>>> checking out you may use as login/pwd DemoCustomer/ofbiz) >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> If they wants to fo further they will have to use svn... >>>>> Any other opinions (for instance, should we go the way Adian >>>>> suggested and >>>>> I agreed with ?) >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>>> Are you doing an svn export - to remove all the .svn folders? >>>>>> >>>>>> --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email] >>>>>> <lt%[hidden email]>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> From: Jacques Le Roux <[hidden email]<lt%[hidden email] >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release >>>>>> To: [hidden email] >>>>>> Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrian, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work >>>>>> on our side >>>>>> though. Moreover, as we don't know the platform which will >>>>>> be used, we have to add the plugin.jar in base/lib in each. >>>>>> >>>>>> FYI, the respective size of zipped trunk and release are 50MB >>>>>> and 40MB >>>>>> before >>>>>> creating demo data in Derby and 66MB, 53MB after >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Adrian Crum" <[hidden email]<lt%[hidden email] >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Why not have the zip file contain a ready-to-run version >>>>>> of OFBiz? In >>>>>> >>>>>> other words, run the install, then zip it. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -Adrian >>>>>> > >>>>>> > --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux >>>>>> &lt;[hidden email]<amp%3Blt%[hidden email] >>>>>> >&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Hi all, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I began to work on this, I request your opinions, advices. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have : >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 1. Made an svn export of trunk (rev. 664255) and >>>>>> release4.0 (rev. >>>>>> 664343) >>>>>> and >>>>>> > zipped them in 2 zip archives, respectively >>>>>> > ofbizTrunk.zip and ofbizRelease4.0.zip >>>>>> > 2. Created a README file to be put in each zip (I think >>>>>> we should add >>>>>> > respective rev. numbers in them, WDYT ?), content: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > &lt;&lt;In order to run OFBiz you you need to have >>>>>> ant >>>>>> installed >>>>>> and ANT_HOME >>>>>> > in your path. Then follow this simple sequence: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 1. In a terminal or command line window, go to the >>>>>> directory where >>>>>> you >>>>>> unzipped >>>>>> > OFBiz >>>>>> > 2. Type and run : ant run-install >>>>>> > 3. Wait till the database is filled with demo data... >>>>>> > 4. Depending of your platform, launch OFBiz using >>>>>> startofbiz.bat or >>>>>> > startofbiz.sh >>>>>> > 5. Give OFBiz a minute or two to start up... >>>>>> > 6. Browse to >>>>>> > ERP : https://localhost:8443/catalog/control/main >>>>>> (login/ pwd are >>>>>> > ofbiz/admin) >>>>>> > Ecommerce application : >>>>>> http://localhost:8080/ecommerce/control/main >>>>>> (when >>>>>> > checking out you may use as login/pwd >>>>>> > DemoCustomer/ofbiz) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Enjoy >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> > |
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