The ofbiz.org domain

[David E. Jones-2]

My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of this year.

This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't anything official related to the project)?

There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this, while others have just let the old domain go).

What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?

-David

[hongs bill]

It is worth keeping around.

2010/4/15, David E Jones <[hidden email]>:

>
>
> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of
> this year.
>
> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it, or
> let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't anything
> official related to the project)?
>
> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't
> needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.orgdomain. The
> ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the
> foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this,
> while others have just let the old domain go).
>
> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>
> -David
>
>
>

--
I am hongs

[Tim Ruppert]

+1 please transfer it to Apache so that the old URLs will be preserved - and bookmarks can be worked on.  I'll be happy to send them the stuff that we're doing at Contegix now and push it forward.

Cheers,
Ruppert

On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:50 PM, David E Jones wrote:

>
> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of this year.
>
> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't anything official related to the project)?
>
> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this, while others have just let the old domain go).
>
> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>
> -David
>
>

[David E. Jones-2]

Why?

-David

On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:07 PM, hongs bill wrote:

> It is worth keeping around.
>
> 2010/4/15, David E Jones <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>
>> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of
>> this year.
>>
>> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it, or
>> let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't anything
>> official related to the project)?
>>
>> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't
>> needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.orgdomain. The
>> ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the
>> foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this,
>> while others have just let the old domain go).
>>
>> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> I am hongs

[Scott Gray-2]

+1 let's keep a hold of it.  Even if for no other reason than we don't want anyone else to grab it up and use it in a way that we may not like.  I'm sure it gets a lot of hits, I still use it.

Regards
Scott

On 15/04/2010, at 4:14 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote:

> +1 please transfer it to Apache so that the old URLs will be preserved - and bookmarks can be worked on.  I'll be happy to send them the stuff that we're doing at Contegix now and push it forward.
>
> Cheers,
> Ruppert
>
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:50 PM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of this year.
>>
>> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't anything official related to the project)?
>>
>> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this, while others have just let the old domain go).
>>
>> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>

[Adrian Crum-2]

I like the ofbiz.org domain! Let's try to keep it.

-Adrian

--- On Wed, 4/14/10, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: David E Jones <[hidden email]>
> Subject: The ofbiz.org domain
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 8:50 PM
>
> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on
> May 13th of this year.
>
> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and
> keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.*
> domain names that aren't anything official related to the
> project)?
>
> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it
> really isn't needed any more now that everything is under
> the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could
> be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation
> if there is interest (I think some other projects have done
> this, while others have just let the old domain go).
>
> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>
> -David
>
>
>

     

[Jacopo Cappellato-4]

Yes,

and our Java packages are still using it: org.ofbiz

Jacopo

On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

> I like the ofbiz.org domain! Let's try to keep it.
>
> -Adrian
>
> --- On Wed, 4/14/10, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> From: David E Jones <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: The ofbiz.org domain
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 8:50 PM
>>
>> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on
>> May 13th of this year.
>>
>> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and
>> keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.*
>> domain names that aren't anything official related to the
>> project)?
>>
>> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it
>> really isn't needed any more now that everything is under
>> the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could
>> be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation
>> if there is interest (I think some other projects have done
>> this, while others have just let the old domain go).
>>
>> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <[hidden email]>
> Yes,
>
> and our Java packages are still using it: org.ofbiz

Looks like an interesting point, isn'it?

Jacques
 

> Jacopo
>
> On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>
>> I like the ofbiz.org domain! Let's try to keep it.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>> --- On Wed, 4/14/10, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> From: David E Jones <[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: The ofbiz.org domain
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 8:50 PM
>>>
>>> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on
>>> May 13th of this year.
>>>
>>> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and
>>> keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.*
>>> domain names that aren't anything official related to the
>>> project)?
>>>
>>> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it
>>> really isn't needed any more now that everything is under
>>> the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could
>>> be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation
>>> if there is interest (I think some other projects have done
>>> this, while others have just let the old domain go).
>>>
>>> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

[Ashish Vijaywargiya]

I would prefer to keep it. Most of the time I type ofbiz.org in my browser :-).

--
Ashish

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:20 AM, David E Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of this year.
>
> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't anything official related to the project)?
>
> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this, while others have just let the old domain go).
>
> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>
> -David
>
>
>

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi David:
If you don't want to keep it up and ASF doesn't want it, I'll take it.
Regards,
Ruth
----------------------------------------------------
Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
[hidden email]

David E Jones wrote:

> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of this year.
>
> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't anything official related to the project)?
>
> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this, while others have just let the old domain go).
>
> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>
> -David
>
>
>
>  

[Scott Gray-2]

Hi Ruth,

Out of interest, what would you do with it?

Thanks
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 15/04/2010, at 11:31 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi David:
> If you don't want to keep it up and ASF doesn't want it, I'll take it.
> Regards,
> Ruth
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
> [hidden email]
>
> David E Jones wrote:
>> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of this year.
>>
>> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't anything official related to the project)?
>>
>> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this, while others have just let the old domain go).
>>
>> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>
>>  

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi Scott:
I'd eventually replace the  myofbiz.com domain with ofbiz.org.
Myofbiz.com Its still all about OFBiz documentation and eventually
training materials, so clearly there is a link. FYI, I've been told that
"myofbiz" is sometimes misinterpreted (by some people) as, well,
something I never thought of...
Regards,
Ruth
----------------------------------------------------
Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
[hidden email]

Scott Gray wrote:

> Hi Ruth,
>
> Out of interest, what would you do with it?
>
> Thanks
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> On 15/04/2010, at 11:31 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>
>  
>> Hi David:
>> If you don't want to keep it up and ASF doesn't want it, I'll take it.
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
>> [hidden email]
>>
>> David E Jones wrote:
>>    
>>> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of this year.
>>>
>>> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't anything official related to the project)?
>>>
>>> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this, while others have just let the old domain go).
>>>
>>> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>      
>
>  

[Jeroen van der Wal-2]

I don't like to see ofbiz.org to be used for commercial purposes. If
the subscription cost is a problem I'm willing to make a donation in
order to keep the domain within the community.
--
Jeroen van der Wal
Stromboli b.v.
[phone]



On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Scott:
> I'd eventually replace the  myofbiz.com domain with ofbiz.org. Myofbiz.com
> Its still all about OFBiz documentation and eventually training materials,
> so clearly there is a link. FYI, I've been told that "myofbiz" is sometimes
> misinterpreted (by some people) as, well, something I never thought of...
> Regards,
> Ruth
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
> [hidden email]
>
> Scott Gray wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ruth,
>>
>> Out of interest, what would you do with it?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>>
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> On 15/04/2010, at 11:31 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi David:
>>> If you don't want to keep it up and ASF doesn't want it, I'll take it.
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
>>> [hidden email]
>>>
>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of
>>>> this year.
>>>>
>>>> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it,
>>>> or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't
>>>> anything official related to the project)?
>>>>
>>>> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't
>>>> needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.org domain.
>>>> The ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the
>>>> foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this,
>>>> while others have just let the old domain go).
>>>>
>>>> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi Jeroen:
If this was a directed to me, then:

1) My enterprise is not a money making, "commercial" concern. My mission
has always been to provide high quality affordable learning resources to
the community at large. My view of the "community" is anyone looking for
OFBiz materials, not just project committers. The only way I can
possible afford to do that is charge a nominal fee for some of these
books. And, believe me, I'm not making any money on this endeavor. As
I've said before, it is a labor of love.

2) Want to donate money to help the cause? Buy some of my books. You
will help pay for the server and hosting, quality content creation
tools, professional editors, SME's time in reviewing materials...and I
could go on.

Regards,
Ruth
----------------------------------------------------
Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
[hidden email]

Jeroen van der Wal wrote:
> I don't like to see ofbiz.org to be used for commercial purposes. If
> the subscription cost is a problem I'm willing to make a donation in
> order to keep the domain within the community.
>  

[Ludovic Maitre-2]

Hi all,

As a user of Ofbiz i would like the domain stay in control of the OfBiz
project or ASF like it is (a redirect to http://ofbiz.apache.org/ ),
Best regards,

Le 4/15/10 2:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman a écrit :

> Hi Jeroen:
> If this was a directed to me, then:
>
> 1) My enterprise is not a money making, "commercial" concern. My
> mission has always been to provide high quality affordable learning
> resources to the community at large. My view of the "community" is
> anyone looking for OFBiz materials, not just project committers. The
> only way I can possible afford to do that is charge a nominal fee for
> some of these books. And, believe me, I'm not making any money on this
> endeavor. As I've said before, it is a labor of love.
>
> 2) Want to donate money to help the cause? Buy some of my books. You
> will help pay for the server and hosting, quality content creation
> tools, professional editors, SME's time in reviewing materials...and I
> could go on.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
> [hidden email]
>
> Jeroen van der Wal wrote:
>> I don't like to see ofbiz.org to be used for commercial purposes. If
>> the subscription cost is a problem I'm willing to make a donation in
>> order to keep the domain within the community.

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hi Ruth,

I'm sorry to say that I agree with Jeroen. I'd never have made a proposition like yours: for me ofbiz.org is clearly and should
remain a community name.

It's not directed against you, because I believe in your faith in OFBiz. But who knows what will happen with your effort? It's hard
to trust people, even when you have a good feeling, but it's even harder to trust organizations. Look for instance at what happened
recently to Java now owned by Oracle (and BTW according to Tiobe recenlty lost its 1st place as a language
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html), MySql may also suffer for the same reason, and we know the IT
history is cluttered of such cases.

Also I was already dissapointed by the Opentaps experience. Even if Si has been almost clear about his intentions (not sure at which
point though) see "How to make money from open source" at http://www.opensourcestrategies.org/.

My 2 cts

Jacques

From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[hidden email]>

> Hi Jeroen:
> If this was a directed to me, then:
>
> 1) My enterprise is not a money making, "commercial" concern. My mission has always been to provide high quality affordable
> learning resources to the community at large. My view of the "community" is anyone looking for OFBiz materials, not just project
> committers. The only way I can possible afford to do that is charge a nominal fee for some of these books. And, believe me, I'm
> not making any money on this endeavor. As I've said before, it is a labor of love.
>
> 2) Want to donate money to help the cause? Buy some of my books. You will help pay for the server and hosting, quality content
> creation tools, professional editors, SME's time in reviewing materials...and I could go on.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
> [hidden email]
>
> Jeroen van der Wal wrote:
>> I don't like to see ofbiz.org to be used for commercial purposes. If
>> the subscription cost is a problem I'm willing to make a donation in
>> order to keep the domain within the community.
>>
>

[Jacques Le Roux]

For Tiobe indice, http://www.ohloh.net/languages?sort=commits seems better to follow Open source projects...
Anyway all this is very rough

Jacques

from.: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]>

> Hi Ruth,
>
> I'm sorry to say that I agree with Jeroen. I'd never have made a proposition like yours: for me ofbiz.org is clearly and should
> remain a community name.
>
> It's not directed against you, because I believe in your faith in OFBiz. But who knows what will happen with your effort? It's
> hard
> to trust people, even when you have a good feeling, but it's even harder to trust organizations. Look for instance at what
> happened
> recently to Java now owned by Oracle (and BTW according to Tiobe recenlty lost its 1st place as a language
> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html), MySql may also suffer for the same reason, and we know the IT
> history is cluttered of such cases.
>
> Also I was already dissapointed by the Opentaps experience. Even if Si has been almost clear about his intentions (not sure at
> which
> point though) see "How to make money from open source" at http://www.opensourcestrategies.org/.
>
> My 2 cts
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[hidden email]>
>> Hi Jeroen:
>> If this was a directed to me, then:
>>
>> 1) My enterprise is not a money making, "commercial" concern. My mission has always been to provide high quality affordable
>> learning resources to the community at large. My view of the "community" is anyone looking for OFBiz materials, not just project
>> committers. The only way I can possible afford to do that is charge a nominal fee for some of these books. And, believe me, I'm
>> not making any money on this endeavor. As I've said before, it is a labor of love.
>>
>> 2) Want to donate money to help the cause? Buy some of my books. You will help pay for the server and hosting, quality content
>> creation tools, professional editors, SME's time in reviewing materials...and I could go on.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
>> [hidden email]
>>
>> Jeroen van der Wal wrote:
>>> I don't like to see ofbiz.org to be used for commercial purposes. If
>>> the subscription cost is a problem I'm willing to make a donation in
>>> order to keep the domain within the community.
>>>
>>
>
>

[Jeroen van der Wal-2]

Hi Ruth,

To me it's very simple:
   Ofbiz Community = ofbiz.apache.org = ofbiz.org
And if you want to express your love that's the place!

-Jeroen


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Jeroen:
> If this was a directed to me, then:
>
> 1) My enterprise is not a money making, "commercial" concern. My mission has
> always been to provide high quality affordable learning resources to the
> community at large. My view of the "community" is anyone looking for OFBiz
> materials, not just project committers. The only way I can possible afford
> to do that is charge a nominal fee for some of these books. And, believe me,
> I'm not making any money on this endeavor. As I've said before, it is a
> labor of love.
>
> 2) Want to donate money to help the cause? Buy some of my books. You will
> help pay for the server and hosting, quality content creation tools,
> professional editors, SME's time in reviewing materials...and I could go on.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
> [hidden email]
>
> Jeroen van der Wal wrote:
>>
>> I don't like to see ofbiz.org to be used for commercial purposes. If
>> the subscription cost is a problem I'm willing to make a donation in
>> order to keep the domain within the community.
>>
>

[Ean Schuessler]

It would cause major damage to our Google search placement to drop all
the pages in their database on the ofbiz.org domain. We should, at
least, keep it for another year with permanent redirects on all URLs to
the Apache equivalent. My $0.02.

David E Jones wrote:
> My current registration of the ofbiz.org domain expires on May 13th of this year.
>
> This brings up a question: should we keep it around and keep using it, or let it go (just all of the other ofbiz.* domain names that aren't anything official related to the project)?
>
> There is certainly historical significance to it, but it really isn't needed any more now that everything is under the official apache.org domain. The ofbiz.org domain could be transferred to the ASF and maintained by the foundation if there is interest (I think some other projects have done this, while others have just let the old domain go).
>
> What does everyone think? Is it worth keeping around?
>  
--
Ean Schuessler, CTO
[hidden email]
214-720-0700 x 315
Brainfood, Inc.
http://www.brainfood.com

[Ruth Hoffman-2]

Hi Jacques:

Wow, I'm flattered that you would compare myOFBiz.com to Java! Or at
least juxtapose it with the "big boys" :-)

Just to clear the air:

1) myOFBiz.com is not an organization, company or any other commercially
viable entity. It is a domain name and a server running an instance of
OFBiz.

2) Like myOFBiz.com, ofbiz.org is only a domain name. Both have no
intellectual property or other proprietary resources that could be sold.
The only thing that can be sold, in either case, is the domain name.
Which, I have to admit for ofbiz.org has brand recognition - at least
today. That is why I'm interested in it. .

3) I fully understand your position. IMO  the ofbiz.org domain is not a
sacred icon. In fact, as each day goes by, it has less and less meaning.
If project committers and other OFBiz devotees wish to worship at the
ofbiz.org shrine, then who am I to ask "why?". It is you belief that
ofbiz.org has value. I'm very progressive in at least this regard: I
believe, "to each his/her own".

On a related note, do you feel that there is something wrong with
commercial success? What I mean is, why can't OFBiz enjoy some
"commercial" success? Or maybe I should ask, what do you mean by
"commercial"?

Kind Regards,
Ruth

Thanks

Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Hi Ruth,
>
> I'm sorry to say that I agree with Jeroen. I'd never have made a
> proposition like yours: for me ofbiz.org is clearly and should
> remain a community name.
>
> It's not directed against you, because I believe in your faith in
> OFBiz. But who knows what will happen with your effort? It's hard
> to trust people, even when you have a good feeling, but it's even
> harder to trust organizations. Look for instance at what happened
> recently to Java now owned by Oracle (and BTW according to Tiobe
> recenlty lost its 1st place as a language
> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html),
> MySql may also suffer for the same reason, and we know the IT
> history is cluttered of such cases.
>
> Also I was already dissapointed by the Opentaps experience. Even if Si
> has been almost clear about his intentions (not sure at which
> point though) see "How to make money from open source" at
> http://www.opensourcestrategies.org/.
>
> My 2 cts
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[hidden email]>
>> Hi Jeroen:
>> If this was a directed to me, then:
>>
>> 1) My enterprise is not a money making, "commercial" concern. My
>> mission has always been to provide high quality affordable
>> learning resources to the community at large. My view of the
>> "community" is anyone looking for OFBiz materials, not just project
>> committers. The only way I can possible afford to do that is charge a
>> nominal fee for some of these books. And, believe me, I'm
>> not making any money on this endeavor. As I've said before, it is a
>> labor of love.
>>
>> 2) Want to donate money to help the cause? Buy some of my books. You
>> will help pay for the server and hosting, quality content
>> creation tools, professional editors, SME's time in reviewing
>> materials...and I could go on.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
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>> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
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>> Jeroen van der Wal wrote:
>>> I don't like to see ofbiz.org to be used for commercial purposes. If
>>> the subscription cost is a problem I'm willing to make a donation in
>>> order to keep the domain within the community.
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